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Old 2009-06-19, 10:38   Link #2241
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In the U.S. PS3 sales are dropping year after year which is not a good sign for the continued growth of the system, especially when the Xbox 360 had a solid year-over-year growth from 2008 to 2009.

The trend line of PS3 sales is flattening, with unit sales decline this year and while Microsoft and Nintendo have held up; things are not looking to good.
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Old 2009-06-19, 10:49   Link #2242
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pretty empty threat, considering the profit vs cost ratio.

In short if it's been developed to be able to run on the 360 the actual cost of porting it over to the PS3 is minimal compared to the profit that they would gain (this should hold true unless the game sells like crap).

that and PS3 sales compared to the other systems are generally up everywhere other then the US.

If they actually followed through i would be surprised, but in the end i wouldn't really care.
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Old 2009-06-19, 10:55   Link #2243
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That's quite big statement to Sony but Sony made $500 million in Royalties !
God knows how much sales activations made from Sony Platforms ? So they just asking for
more sales
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Old 2009-06-19, 18:41   Link #2244
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Quite honestly, I surely am not surpriesed at some companies dropping support for the PS3. It's still the most expensive console in the market, and it offers less to the non-Japan audience in terms of games than either the Wii or the 360.

Not that I care much about Activision; I could care less if they drop PS3 support partly because I also own a 360, but mainly because they really don't make my kind of games (aka RPGs). It's just of course this does not bode well at all for Sony, but then again, I really bought my PS3 as a BD player/big memstick for PS2 games rather than for the PS3 games, so...
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Old 2009-06-19, 22:29   Link #2245
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From the wordings of Kotick, it certainly seem that the Activision isn't exactly making a loss from Sony. But rather Kotick expect a higher return from his investments on the platform via a lower pricing on the hardware for a larger install base. There's nothing but losses for Activision in the long run if Kotick were to pull support for SCE. (PS3 is starting to pick up pacing from what we have seen in E3 '09) So all in all, it's just Kotick making a huge fuss, nothing more.

Anyway, the only good thing from Activision is just the CoDs and Guitar Heroes. Even with those, the good stuffs comes few and far. (CoDs for about a timespan of 2 years or so with Infinity Ward. GH only with some innovation and not just songs.) Not a big deal to me if they do pull out.
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Old 2009-06-20, 04:17   Link #2246
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I don't really care in the end since I have both and I bought the ps3 for it's solid exclusive line-up(when I bought it mostly MGS4 D: ). I did not buy it for its blu-ray! Honestly if you have diverse taste the PS3 runs good even without 3rd party support

That said, I think Activision is just bluffing, to make Sony more aware of the situation.


On another note I don't get why GoW3 is getting so much hype? From the casual gamer I can understand. But GoW was always for pussies while the cool kids played DMC(ps2 users) and Ninja Gaiden(xbox users). Bayonetta is way more interesting. The only reason I liked Ninja Gaiden over DMC was that DMC had such gay main characters. Bayonetta actually features a main character that I like(if I can turn on a japanese vocal track). Bayonetta has a varied combo list unlike GoW(though GoW3 might do something new) which is just the same shit over and over again till you get to another quick time event...
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Old 2009-06-20, 04:31   Link #2247
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On another note I don't get why GoW3 is getting so much hype? From the casual gamer I can understand. But GoW was always for pussies while the cool kids played DMC(ps2 users) and Ninja Gaiden(xbox users). Bayonetta is way more interesting. The only reason I liked Ninja Gaiden over DMC was that DMC had such gay main characters. Bayonetta actually features a main character that I like(if I can turn on a japanese vocal track). Bayonetta has a varied combo list unlike GoW(though GoW3 might do something new) which is just the same shit over and over again till you get to another quick time event...
I think your on your own their with your opinion, every one seems to like Kratos and the amount of variety GoW gives in terms of levels and enemies.
IMO Bayonetta doesn't really make any sense, its like someone crack their heads open and used everything they could think of.
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Old 2009-06-20, 04:35   Link #2248
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I think your on your own their with your opinion, every one seems to like Kratos and the amount of variety GoW gives in terms of levels and enemies.
IMO Bayonetta doesn't really make any sense, its like someone crack their heads open and used everything they could think of.
Yeah I always tend to forget that, not everyone plays for the challenge or the story(talking about why I don't understand why people liked FF12).

Bayonetta doesn't have to make sense, it only has to feature a solid combat system. The levels seem pretty varied this time around, and you can properly fight big bosses without quick-time events! Still GoW always screamed average in my mind. It's PS3's Halo imo.
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Old 2009-06-20, 07:47   Link #2249
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Yeah I always tend to forget that, not everyone plays for the challenge or the story(talking about why I don't understand why people liked FF12).

Bayonetta doesn't have to make sense, it only has to feature a solid combat system. The levels seem pretty varied this time around, and you can properly fight big bosses without quick-time events! Still GoW always screamed average in my mind. It's PS3's Halo imo.
I somewhat agree, and disagree. The gameplay is solid, however its suited for a more casual audience as opposed to Devil May Cry. I personally prefer Devil May Cry's gameplay, an action game that truly tests ur reflexes and style etc.

However i noticed that all these action games have such such poor story. Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden...and it seems like Bayonetta is going the ridiculous route.

God of War is probably the only one that bothered to make a truly coherent epic that contributes to the immersive experience. I personally play God of War for the story, while I play Devil May Cry to kick ass.

PS: The main objective of this post is to ask you who that hot chick is in ur sig
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Old 2009-06-20, 08:15   Link #2250
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I somewhat agree, and disagree. The gameplay is solid, however its suited for a more casual audience as opposed to Devil May Cry. I personally prefer Devil May Cry's gameplay, an action game that truly tests ur reflexes and style etc.

However i noticed that all these action games have such such poor story. Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden...and it seems like Bayonetta is going the ridiculous route.

God of War is probably the only one that bothered to make a truly coherent epic that contributes to the immersive experience. I personally play God of War for the story, while I play Devil May Cry to kick ass.

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While I can understand the immersion(didn't experience it myself though), but story isn't any thing worth mentioning, no? It's perfect for a videogame though, but it's not that good enough pick it over another game. o_O

Still feeling a lack of love for Bayonetta. ._____.

ps:It's Han Ga-in korean model/actress.
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Old 2009-06-20, 13:28   Link #2251
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I somewhat agree, and disagree. The gameplay is solid, however its suited for a more casual audience as opposed to Devil May Cry. I personally prefer Devil May Cry's gameplay, an action game that truly tests ur reflexes and style etc.

However i noticed that all these action games have such such poor story. Devil May Cry, Ninja Gaiden...and it seems like Bayonetta is going the ridiculous route.

God of War is probably the only one that bothered to make a truly coherent epic that contributes to the immersive experience. I personally play God of War for the story, while I play Devil May Cry to kick ass.
Your referring to the production values, Not the quality of the story. The quality is no better than Bayenotte, DMC, NG, etc. It just chooses to take itself more serious and they pump allot more money into that side of the investment.

While the gameplay portion is pretty shallow, the combat is on par with an older Dynasty Warriors game with absolutely no difficulty or depth even on the highest levels. Yet...For what it lacks in combat, it has probably the best levels to date for an action game. It has that perfect blend of puzzles, with platforming and no backtracking.

Finally on Sony/Activision, All they do is want a price drop. PS3 has been the only system in NA experiencing a decaying growth. I don't they'll cut support, PS3 COD will still sell gangbusters. But I could see them getting the shaft on smaller titles, DLC, and quality of the support in general
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Old 2009-06-20, 16:24   Link #2252
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Ninja Gaiden Black is still king, imo. I have yet to find and other action/beat'em up that can offer such a deep gameplay. But GoW3 is a whole different kind of beast. I like it because of its atmosphere and how it's presented. If I want satisfaction and a challenge I just go play NG Black.
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Old 2009-06-20, 17:30   Link #2253
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Bayonetta actually features a main character that I like(if I can turn on a japanese vocal track).
I've been hyped for Bayonetta too. But, why would you want/expect a Japanese track for a Kamiya game? That's been one of the charms for most of his work
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Old 2009-06-21, 01:51   Link #2254
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Your referring to the production values, Not the quality of the story. The quality is no better than Bayenotte, DMC, NG, etc. It just chooses to take itself more serious and they pump allot more money into that side of the investment.

While the gameplay portion is pretty shallow, the combat is on par with an older Dynasty Warriors game with absolutely no difficulty or depth even on the highest levels. Yet...For what it lacks in combat, it has probably the best levels to date for an action game. It has that perfect blend of puzzles, with platforming and no backtracking.

Finally on Sony/Activision, All they do is want a price drop. PS3 has been the only system in NA experiencing a decaying growth. I don't they'll cut support, PS3 COD will still sell gangbusters. But I could see them getting the shaft on smaller titles, DLC, and quality of the support in general
Actually I just wanted to get Han-Ga's name ...

God of War's story takes itself seriously and actually provides a REASON for me to keep playing. Like at the end of God of War 2 I actually want to know what would happen. The way they wrapped up God of War 1 was pretty well done as well. It is by no means as complex and well thought out as Metal Gear Solid, or as simple and beautiful as Portal/Colossus. But it gets the job done, and done well.

Devil May Cry on the other hand, the script is SOOOO bad it's actually good, like Devil May Cry 3 and 4 for example. I guess that gives some kind of entertainment value, but it really puts me off if I'm in a mood for an EPIC action game. Like I'm going to SAVE THE WORLD kind of game instead of I'm just going to be cool. People play games not only for the gameplay but also for the immersion.

You can't really say God of War's story's quality is no different from Ninja Gaiden. Ninja Gaiden's story was actually SO bad, the whole game's object and plot was SO POORLY presented that sometimes I"m lost as to what I should do. It is fucking horrible. But it doesnt defeat the fact that its really fun to play as Ryu, that was probably the only reason I kept on playing. That game truly carries itself with gameplay, if only it had a better story...seriously...

Bayonetta, I won't say anything because I haven't played it yet. From what I can see so far they're trying to make something like Devil May Cry, but ridiculous in a stylish way instead of a my-script-is-so-bad-its-good way.

I think Bayonetta looks GORGEOUS, the only reason i'm a bit turned off by it is, I don't like milfs . Eye glasses wearing milfs especially.
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Old 2009-06-22, 12:35   Link #2255
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Bayonetta, I won't say anything because I haven't played it yet. From what I can see so far they're trying to make something like Devil May Cry, but ridiculous in a stylish way instead of a my-script-is-so-bad-its-good way.

I think Bayonetta looks GORGEOUS, the only reason i'm a bit turned off by it is, I don't like milfs . Eye glasses wearing milfs especially.
I'm looking forward to it, but isn't Bayonetta like DMC4 a mulitplattform title? At the moment it feels like mix between God hand, DMC and PN03, so it is going to be good. I hope it is a long game, I'm currently feed up with short playtime titles on the ps3. But then again we can always go back to and don demon's souls into the blu-ray drive ^^.
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Old 2009-06-23, 01:49   Link #2256
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I'm looking forward to it, but isn't Bayonetta like DMC4 a mulitplattform title? At the moment it feels like mix between God hand, DMC and PN03, so it is going to be good. I hope it is a long game, I'm currently feed up with short playtime titles on the ps3. But then again we can always go back to and don demon's souls into the blu-ray drive ^^.
Yes it is a multiplatform title.

If you're looking for some exclusive action title that aren't shooters. You can probably look forward to Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. I know I know, it's a year old on the 360, but its the first Ninja Gaiden game to incorporate co-op, and I'm really looking forward to how they're going to pull that off.

Then the obvious God of War 3, and if you're really craving for something Infamous would work (although it's more like a shooter).

I heard Demon's Soul is awesome, unfortunately the lack of voice chat during coop is stopping my friends and I from getting it.
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Old 2009-06-23, 02:46   Link #2257
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I'm looking forward to it, but isn't Bayonetta like DMC4 a mulitplattform title? At the moment it feels like mix between God hand, DMC and PN03, so it is going to be good. I hope it is a long game, I'm currently feed up with short playtime titles on the ps3. But then again we can always go back to and don demon's souls into the blu-ray drive ^^.
Wolverine Origins and Conan, Both share a similar style to God of War, Both are quite good. Unlike God of War, they didn't have the production budget though so they come off a bit cheap yet are solid action titles(Gameplay wise of course!)
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Old 2009-06-23, 05:54   Link #2258
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Then the obvious God of War 3, and if you're really craving for something Infamous would work (although it's more like a shooter).
Yeah eventhough I call it overrated doesn't mean it's bad. Like said it's ps3's Halo hugely overrated, but a pretty solid game.

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I'm looking forward to it, but isn't Bayonetta like DMC4 a mulitplattform title? At the moment it feels like mix between God hand, DMC and PN03, so it is going to be good. I hope it is a long game, I'm currently feed up with short playtime titles on the ps3. But then again we can always go back to and don demon's souls into the blu-ray drive ^^.
O shit someone who remembers PN03. I remember how hard I tried to like it, but the game was just horrible, possible the worst beat em up/shooter? I played. I really really liked the character though, she had class.

Story in action games are overrated. Just a standard simple one that just gives you a reason to fight is enough. Hell the only proper story in an action game I can think of is the Metal Gear series(4 went a little overboard in story department though).
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Old 2009-06-23, 07:04   Link #2259
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Story in action games are overrated. Just a standard simple one that just gives you a reason to fight is enough. Hell the only proper story in an action game I can think of is the Metal Gear series(4 went a little overboard in story department though).
I wouldn't call MGS an action game, its a bit more complicated than that. But really if you break down MGS4 the story line isn't overboard at all, all those random slide shows are really debriefings of everything you've been playing in the previous games and aren't really related to MGS4, sure they provide context but thats it, you don't have to listen to them.
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Old 2009-06-23, 09:56   Link #2260
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Story in action games are overrated. Just a standard simple one that just gives you a reason to fight is enough. Hell the only proper story in an action game I can think of is the Metal Gear series(4 went a little overboard in story department though).
The video game library has evolved over the years, and so did the genres. It's hard to classify "action" games as a whole because they have a lot of varieties now.

Metal Gear Solid is a tactical espionage game. The pacing of the game itself is a lot slower and less intense than pure-action titles like God of War and Devil May Cry. I wouldn't classify them into the same genre.

It's hard to find good stories in PURE-action titles, which is why I give praise to God of War, because they at least try, and they try hard.

Many gamers might disagree, but video games are actually a very good medium for story telling. It offers something that no other form of entertainment can provide. True immersion, and that is a great element in the world of story telling.

Of course you don't need immersion to make a great game, look at Wario Ware, Little Big Planet and Street Fighter. But just because it is NOT needed to make a great game, doesn't mean people shouldn't at least utilize it and tap into its potential.
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