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Old 2009-07-17, 04:15   Link #2281
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PS3 has now a bluetooth!
Ahem. Guess what protocol the PS3 has always used to talk to wireless equipment, such as... controllers.

Same goes for the Wii btw. Afaik Xbox 360 uses a propitiatory wireless protocol.
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Old 2009-07-17, 07:11   Link #2282
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PS3 Slim Schedueled for October ?

The only fact I can vouch is :-

1) My main hardware supplier, who is a close associate with Sony, told me that their PS3 is in short supply until Fall.

2) PS3 is currently low in stock throughout the local market. Neither distributer nor retailer manage to get much restocks, if there are any in the first place.
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Old 2009-07-17, 08:14   Link #2283
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Now I wonder if there will be a price drop associated with slim? Any speculation on the matter, Makube?

Not for me, mind you (I have first gen PS3), but a friend wants to know when the next price drop would be. He's been eyeing the PS3 for a long time already, and wants to get one but price still is the main factor.
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Old 2009-07-17, 08:25   Link #2284
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Now I wonder if there will be a price drop associated with slim? Any speculation on the matter, Makube?
No idea. But from my experience when dealing with old hardware, Retailers who have excess stocks of the Phat PS3 will tend to drop price on their part once the Slim is in. That's what I usually do too with any new toy. My pricing for the NDS Lite is $50 cheaper now that the NDSi is in with any losses covered by the new toy.

So you'll do best to get the Phat once the Slim is officially announced and try to use the fact as a bargaining chip.

And I'll tell you this, hold your horses if you intend to upgrade. I don't see how the Slim will dissipate the excess heat given it's size. I mean, my old PS2 from 2002 still runs.
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Old 2009-07-17, 10:34   Link #2285
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I thought a price drop was rumored for next month? At least that's what I thought I read on Kotaku, but I can't find it.
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Old 2009-07-17, 10:37   Link #2286
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Maybe this IS the 'price drop'...


I personally wouldn't 'upgrade' though, because unless Sony likes to waste more money, slim units won't be PS2 BC. And I for one like my (almost?) fully BC first-gen PS3.
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Old 2009-07-17, 11:56   Link #2287
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I personally wouldn't 'upgrade' though, because unless Sony likes to waste more money, slim units won't be PS2 BC. And I for one like my (almost?) fully BC first-gen PS3.
Afaik there was news some time ago that Sony acquired a patent on full software PS2 emulation, which would make any PS3 potentially PS2 backwards compatible.

This would make sense, considering Sony can't keep offering just PSone titles as classic game downloads. They could make a killing if they could offer PS2 games that way too, and I'm pretty sure Sony knows that.

I myself am looking forward to the PS3 slim. It's not that my current PS3 isn't failing - it's working perfectly and as launch model it has full PS2 B/C, but the fan can get kinda loud if it's been running for a while. During games that's usually not a major issue, but the PS3 is also my primary DVD/BD player.
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Old 2009-07-17, 12:00   Link #2288
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Well, I just bought a PS3 for Blazblue, I couldn't wait any longer lol

Does the PS3 really have overheating problems? The shop owner told its best to let it cool after 3 hours, but I heard of people leaving them on the entire day.
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Old 2009-07-17, 13:01   Link #2289
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personally i found it really depends on the rooms ventilation, aka if you put it in a cabinet or such i would keep the doors wide open when you play. If you leave it out on the floor with the chance for the air to flow there really shouldn't be a issue.
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Old 2009-07-17, 13:17   Link #2290
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I leave it next to my TV but in a pretty open area, and I usually play for a good 7-8 hrs before I need to a rest (PS3 probably could go for longer). So no...it doesn't really have a heating problem as long as you keep it at a relatively open area.

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Old 2009-07-17, 14:43   Link #2291
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Hum... I never thought about ventilation and stuff... I just leave my PS3 next to the tv, like i always did with all my other consoles... But i think i should care, cause he doesn't have much rest with me... Even when i'm not playing, i leave him on....

And hey, the add-on for Wipeout, wipeout fury, is going to cost ten dollars! I looove wipeout and i'm very hyped for this one, specially because it's a nice opportunity to play the main game some more.
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Old 2009-07-17, 16:52   Link #2292
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Does the PS3 really have overheating problems? The shop owner told its best to let it cool after 3 hours, but I heard of people leaving them on the entire day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XgSCcoOuYI
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Old 2009-07-17, 22:02   Link #2293
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The PS3 is my favorite console of the 7th-gen series but unfortunately.. SO4 didn't make it to the console and thus, I cannot buy it. I thought there was a port but it turns out that Square-Enix have no such plans as that they are making Final Fantasy Versus XIII a PS3-exclusive.
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Old 2009-07-18, 00:15   Link #2294
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Goddamit, I was putting my PS3 upright just because it looked cooler that way. It looks very nice since my desktop case and my 360 (also upright) are all in a row.

I know this ain't the proper thread, but just wondering, does the 360 have the same heating issues as with the PS3 in the upright position? Is it better horizontal as with the PS3?



As for the PS2 BC, I've heard rumours like that since around the time I got my PS3 (it was during the transition period from 60gb to 80 gb, as I was debating then whether to get the 60gb immediately). While I have no doubt that the PS3 is powerful enough to emulate PS2 with proper software, it's going to take a while for it to be fully functional, I think. Even the 360 is not fully BC yet, and they're at it far longer than Sony has.

So even if the PS3 will be fully PS2 BC in the future, I for one am very happy with every cent I spent on my PS3, since on the mean time I get to play games like P3/P4, AT1/2, MK1 and soon MK2 and Sakura Taisen V without worrying about compatibility, or hooking another system to my display.
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Old 2009-07-18, 02:00   Link #2295
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Goddamit, I was putting my PS3 upright just because it looked cooler that way. It looks very nice since my desktop case and my 360 (also upright) are all in a row.

I know this ain't the proper thread, but just wondering, does the 360 have the same heating issues as with the PS3 in the upright position? Is it better horizontal as with the PS3?
This may be a stupid question - you did put the PS3 upright in the right way, right? Afaik the right side has ventilation holes, so you should put it on it's left side (so that the blu-ray drive bay is on top and usb slots are on the bottom).

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As for the PS2 BC, I've heard rumours like that since around the time I got my PS3 (it was during the transition period from 60gb to 80 gb, as I was debating then whether to get the 60gb immediately). While I have no doubt that the PS3 is powerful enough to emulate PS2 with proper software, it's going to take a while for it to be fully functional, I think. Even the 360 is not fully BC yet, and they're at it far longer than Sony has.
http://www.siliconera.com/2009/06/29...ll-processors/
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Old 2009-07-18, 02:01   Link #2296
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Goddamit, I was putting my PS3 upright just because it looked cooler that way. It looks very nice since my desktop case and my 360 (also upright) are all in a row.
Techinically that would be the best way to position the ps3, due to airflow. Anyone telling you something else, just laught at them. But the ps3 is designed to work both ways, so it doesn't matter how you place it, just leave some open space around it and it should be fine.
That guy in the video is talking nonsense, just look at bit closer at the images and you'll notice that he has no clue what he is talking about.
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Old 2009-07-18, 02:30   Link #2297
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That guy in the video is talking nonsense, just look at bit closer at the images and you'll notice that he has no clue what he is talking about.
I was ignoring his long winded comments all the time actually. What should be the focus are the thermal photographs in the the video as they shows how the heat is buildup in the PS3 since the subject of overheating of PS3 was brought into question, with the YLOD and bluray drive failure issues still hanging around and all.

BTW, I prefer my PS3 horizontal since that is the position which offer the most base area and I do not want to accidentally knock that piece of expensive hardware over. With spaces for ventilation on the side, of course.
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Old 2009-07-18, 03:20   Link #2298
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I was ignoring his long winded comments all the time actually. What should be the focus are the thermal photographs in the the video as they shows how the heat is buildup in the PS3 since the subject of overheating of PS3 was brought into question, with the YLOD and bluray drive failure issues still hanging around and all.
Afaik, the heat is mostly generated by the PSU, unless the 16mm fan dies.
Those thermal images are questionable. The second image makes no sense, you see a lot of heat on the vent holes, next to the blu-ray drive. Now if i can remember my thermofluid classes, thermography can only display the radiation, if it isn't blocked/insulated. So maybe it means that the those are the most efficent vent points. If you want to find out where the most heat is generated inside the PS3, you have to take the case off and do another scan. At the moment we can read a lot of different things into those images. I could tell you, for example, that the red spots are the heat leakeage point of the ps3 case, and that the ps3 is good insulated.

As far for YLOD, it is a non specific hardware error, so i can be anything, not just overheating. Somethime it could be actually a failure with the PSU, the HDD, blu-ray drive or something else. Unlike the 360's RROD the, YLOD can virtually be anything.
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Old 2009-07-18, 03:36   Link #2299
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As far for YLOD, it is a non specific hardware error, so i can be anything, not just overheating. Somethime it could be actually a failure with the PSU, the HDD, blu-ray drive or something else. Unlike the 360's RROD the, YLOD can virtually be anything.
Well then, there's at least one case of overheating in a PS3 and the Cell Processor got fried :-

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Old 2009-07-18, 03:48   Link #2300
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Well then, there's at least one case of overheating in a PS3 and the Cell Processor got fried :-

That is the I/O bridge, which sits next to the A/V outputs.
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