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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi Episode 12 Rating
Perfect 10 235 66.01%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 79 22.19%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 27 7.58%
7 out of 10 : Good 7 1.97%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 0.28%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 1 0.28%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 0.28%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 5 1.40%
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Old 2006-06-30, 18:31   Link #481
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Oh, right; forgot about that. Own experiences leading by noose again. But if the authors wanted to put an end to the serie, they could do it pretty easily now, with Haruhi going on her own, merry way again (as with the clubs). Next season: The Melancholic Superstar Haruhi Suzumiya (in her new single!)
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Old 2006-07-02, 15:59   Link #482
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Haruhi always wants to help the human race; she just assumes that no one wants anything to do with her. Haruhi genuinely believes that SOS-dan does good to its club members and the world. I can't imagine Haruhi backing down if the band refused her offer; that's not what she does.

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If Harhui didn't believe she was being selfish, then there would not have been such a surprise from being thanked.
I agree with your point, but that still does not explain why she had to ask the band members if they wanted her help. Based on how she has been throughout the entire series, for Haruhi, if she felt like helping them, she simply would without asking. Asking first just seems so out of character for her. Like I said, it would be equivalent to asking Asahina if she wanted to dress in a bunny costume before forcing her into one or asking the computer club whether or not they can give them a computer before simply demanding (and stealing) one.
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Old 2006-07-03, 22:56   Link #483
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It was Zelda-ish music.
Dont know if anyboy already answer it, but i really think that it's a RPG Game main theme titled Chrono Trigger that released years ago on the SNES console.
That just hit me caouse i played that game and it was great. And it also involves time travelling that may or may not be related to SHnY
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Old 2006-07-05, 20:40   Link #484
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Allow me to say that episodes 9-12 of this series have me sincerely impressed.

Really good stuff. That's all I've got to say for now.
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Old 2006-07-11, 11:01   Link #485
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sorry if this was already mentioned but i didn't want to re-read through the post

the play at the beginning of the episode that Koizumi is performing is the opening scene from Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead by Tom Stoppard, very very good play and movie
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Old 2006-07-21, 03:05   Link #486
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That rock concert was badass, can't wait for OST. Ep ended on a nice note for Haruhi.
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Dont know if anyboy already answer it, but i really think that it's a RPG Game main theme titled Chrono Trigger
Nah I just played it and listened to OST thoroughly, I would've recognized it. I think it is more Zelda-ish but I think it may just be an original song in the style of something else. Chrono Trigger OST rocks though, main theme too and just all of it.
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Old 2006-07-21, 08:27   Link #487
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That rock concert was badass, can't wait for OST. Ep ended on a nice note for Haruhi.
Nah I just played it and listened to OST thoroughly, I would've recognized it. I think it is more Zelda-ish but I think it may just be an original song in the style of something else. Chrono Trigger OST rocks though, main theme too and just all of it.
Just a note, the songs in this episode have been released in CD form as a collection of insert songs. I'm still loving "LOST MY MUSIC" . Too bad it didn't come with music videos of said insert songs...
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Old 2006-07-21, 15:26   Link #488
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Oh sweet, I'll look for them. I liked the first song more--Yuki's flying fingers were so cool, just like her typing. She was a character that certainly became more intriguing as the show proceeded. And the first song had that element of surprise after all of those bad acts performed in the culture show. It was like, whooa who are these guys, bunny outfit and all
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Old 2006-07-30, 15:09   Link #489
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sorry to bring this topie alive

but i wonder somethin in this ep ...
in the end when Haruhi and Kyon are having a conversation about forming a group
Haruhi mentions about Yuki with guitare and Mikuru as a stage decoration and she even asks if Kyon can play any instrument
but she didnt mention or asked about Koizumi

is it some mistake or did she do it on purpose ?
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Old 2006-07-30, 15:25   Link #490
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No, it probably just faded out at that point... she already knows Koizumi will do anything asked...
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Old 2007-03-16, 20:18   Link #491
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I remember this came up a while ago in a Cyberpunk game; a Full Borg character wanted to learn to play the Trumpet in character creation.

What was decided was that he could be technically proficient with it, but with little feeling.

With Yuki playing the guitar, she managed to quickly learn to transcribe tablature to instrument, but is that quite the same thing as being good very quickly? There's also such thing as a playing style. Things like slides, bends, and exact timings of hammer-ons and pull-offs aren't always defined and become part of what makes each performance unique. Someone who just learned how to work an instrument with the data manipulation skills of 100 chinese children probably wouldn't know much about the "feel" of an instrument. The feel isn't just some imaginary thing that it's nice to know exists but doesn't come up much in the music, it can tilt one music style towards another. With lead guitar(or instruments like the Saxophone), this is a bit of a problem for people who have trouble expressing themselves.

It would have been nice if they went into that in the episode. Though I guess there's the next season...
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Old 2007-03-16, 21:40   Link #492
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It would have been nice if they went into that in the episode. Though I guess there's the next season...
Or the fourth novel
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Old 2007-03-16, 21:56   Link #493
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Or the fourth novel
I really don't think I'd enjoy the novels at all. Not only would it mean far, far more is lost in translation(And if you say "Well that's the fun of learning japanese", I WILL kick you in the wapanese gonads) but it just wouldn't capture the chaotic atmosphere the anime often has as well. I think the best thing for a book with such crazy characters is for it to be made into an anime.

Then again, some writers are very good at capturing eccentrics. Terry Pratchett for one. However, most writers aren't. I don't know why, but Isaac Asimov comes to mind. I can't ever imagine him writing a true eccentric.
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Old 2007-03-16, 22:22   Link #494
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I really don't think I'd enjoy the novels at all. Not only would it mean far, far more is lost in translation(And if you say "Well that's the fun of learning japanese", I WILL kick you in the wapanese gonads) but it just wouldn't capture the chaotic atmosphere the anime often has as well. I think the best thing for a book with such crazy characters is for it to be made into an anime.
I was trying to think of the most polite way to say that everything I quoted is comepletely wrong, but I gave up

I do know a bit of Japanese, but I read the novels in English. As for things being lost in translation: well, your anime is translated, isn't it?

Believe me, the atmosphere is just as chaotic (if not moreso) in the novels.

And yes, it being made into an anime was probably the best thing that could have happened to it. However, the anime covers just short of two out of eight (soon to be ten) novels, and there's a lot of material covered there. Examples: Super Moe Mode Nagato, Sneering Bastard, John Smith, some really interesting bits on Tsuruya-san, Mikuru becoming three-dimensional (think she's just a mascot character who's otherwise useless and unimportant? Well, so does she), Koizumi not acting like a deuchbag, and much, much more.
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Old 2007-03-16, 22:47   Link #495
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I do know a bit of Japanese, but I read the novels in English. As for things being lost in translation: well, your anime is translated, isn't it?
Yeah, but only the words. The actions aren't.
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Yeah, but only the words. The actions aren't.
Well, whatever. If you want to miss out, then it's up to you, I guess. I still suggest at least giving them a try. The anime contains the first novel in it's entirety, so that might be a good place to start, if you choose.
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Old 2007-03-17, 19:31   Link #497
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I really don't think I'd enjoy the novels at all. Not only would it mean far, far more is lost in translation(And if you say "Well that's the fun of learning japanese", I WILL kick you in the wapanese gonads) but it just wouldn't capture the chaotic atmosphere the anime often has as well. I think the best thing for a book with such crazy characters is for it to be made into an anime.
The novels are quite chaotic and convey action very well. At least read up to the fourth volume. ^^
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Old 2007-03-19, 03:29   Link #498
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It would be wise not to judge a book until you have tried reading it.

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Old 2007-05-22, 21:56   Link #499
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Bar none my favorite episode. I'm listening to God Knows on repeat now...
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Old 2008-02-12, 23:02   Link #500
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I'm going to compare the ENOZ girls to the ZONE ladies when I get a chance later to see if there's something beyond a generic resemblance.
LOL! It's a complete parody of the real live girl band ZONE! Haruhi said the guitarist (Yuki) is a stand-in, ZONE original guitarist Takayo quited and replaced by Tomoka, the bass girl name is Mai, ZONE bass girl name is Maiko! And haruhi said herself is the vocalist who can't really play guitar, which is exactly the ZONE vocalist Muyi was!

And the whole school festival and concert in school hall is yet another parody from the real live movie "Linda Linda Linda", as a post already pointed out. In LindaX3, the original band member also can not perform due to injured and need a replacement (Haruhi). And there is heavy rain when the band perform hence draw people to the hall!

I'm a big fan of ZONE and I like the movie LindaX3 very much. I was seriously LOLed watching this episode!



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