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Old 2009-04-21, 22:34   Link #4181
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Yah, definitely doubt its the same guy. It is also unclear why Gatoh has left him out of the novels. I am not sure if he was in Ending Day by Day to begin with, because i have never read it. I will as soon as freaking amazon delivers my Into the Blue copy. Since i wtch TSR i just started reading from novel 6 and on. But it seems highly unlikely that he, if he was leader of both, would attack one or the other in such a large scale.
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Old 2009-04-21, 23:32   Link #4182
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I don't know if it matters whether it's redundant or not for Lord Mallory runs both Mythril and Amalgam, but this is what I get from the first chapter of NOT. Even the head of the intelligence agency is prohibiting Hunter and Wraith from doing anything. Also it was mentioned that the operations was transfered somewhere unknown. Possibly in Amalgam? I'm thinking that they formed Mythril first, and looking at the way things are, formed Amalgam. I mean, I don't think Amalgam is just a plain terrorist group. There has to be something deeper. Why else would Kalinin join them? I'm betting that he knows something much deeper thus acting the way he is. Perhaps all along Mythril was just a small organization under the umbrella of Amalgam?
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Old 2009-04-21, 23:47   Link #4183
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Whats the point in having so many villians and good characters die all at the end?
Jesus Christ this isnt FMP anymore its freaking DeathNote...
Tomino and his fellow animes (Ideon, Zambot 3, V Gundam, Dunbine, etc), others like Fafner, Legend of Galatic Heroes, Tekkaman Blade, etc want to say hello with you.
If anything like a final battle is going to happen, then deaths will be inevitable. And since FMP is sort of Real Robot series, casualties for both sides will be significant------for recent examples, just look at Seed (NOT GSD) or 00 first season. The main characters SHOULD NOT be immuned from deaths either.

My predicted "at-least" death list in the last book:
Either Sousuke or Chidori.
The rest TDD crew and Uruz team. (Specifically Anime-Otaku, Tessa and Mao)
Solid Snake. (99%)
Leo. (Probably the last one to die, if needed)

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Yah, definitely doubt its the same guy. It is also unclear why Gatoh has left him out of the novels. I am not sure if he was in Ending Day by Day to begin with, because i have never read it. I will as soon as freaking amazon delivers my Into the Blue copy. Since i wtch TSR i just started reading from novel 6 and on. But it seems highly unlikely that he, if he was leader of both, would attack one or the other in such a large scale.
You raise an interesting point about the issue. In reality, the big dude hadn't been seen in COMO, and Leo hinted there're people inside Mithril who agree with his stuff.
If anything can urge him to attack one or another, then it's probably same as Snake or finding that a chaos world will be better for his wealth or technology developments.
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Old 2009-04-22, 02:15   Link #4184
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I don't know if it matters whether it's redundant or not for Lord Mallory runs both Mythril and Amalgam, but this is what I get from the first chapter of NOT. Even the head of the intelligence agency is prohibiting Hunter and Wraith from doing anything. Also it was mentioned that the operations was transfered somewhere unknown. Possibly in Amalgam? I'm thinking that they formed Mythril first, and looking at the way things are, formed Amalgam. I mean, I don't think Amalgam is just a plain terrorist group. There has to be something deeper. Why else would Kalinin join them? I'm betting that he knows something much deeper thus acting the way he is. Perhaps all along Mythril was just a small organization under the umbrella of Amalgam?
Not reall, Kalinin didnt join Amalgam he joined Leonard. He is Leornad's subordinate which is why he kills Mr Gold and the other crew because they betrayed Leo. He joins Leo because he knew that black techology shouldnt have been invented so he sympathises with Leo in order to bring things back to the way they were "supposed" to be.

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You raise an interesting point about the issue. In reality, the big dude hadn't been seen in COMO, and Leo hinted there're people inside Mithril who agree with his stuff.
If anything can urge him to attack one or another, then it's probably same as Snake or finding that a chaos world will be better for his wealth or technology developments.
Doubt it is like this. If it was the same as Kalinin, he would in some way or the other help leonard, but we see that leonard is actually trying to take over Amalgam by killing Mr Hg. In the case of money, it is also highly unlikely since the constant collisions between Amalgam and Mithril produce nothing but loses from each side. I think there have to be either some deep connection between the old guy and Amalgam, not exactly leader but he is related to them somehow, or rather no connecton at all. If gatoh hasnt mentioned him thus far, it probably means that he is an unimportant character. At leats, that is the way i see it.
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Old 2009-04-22, 02:19   Link #4185
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^^^ i blame it all on the Ruskis, fooling around with things they didn't understand.
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Old 2009-04-22, 02:22   Link #4186
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^^^ i blame it all on the Ruskis, fooling around with things they didn't understand.
Lol??? What do you mean by Ruskis?
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Old 2009-04-22, 02:28   Link #4187
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Lol??? What do you mean by Ruskis?
said like rust minus the T and skis as in more than one ski so Ruskis, a derogatory term for Russians coined during the more tense moments of the cold war. my granddad still uses on a regular basis, as in "we sure showed them Ruskis, cold war more like cold ass whooping"
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Old 2009-04-22, 04:15   Link #4188
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OH, well yah. But i seriously doubt in the long run that it was made by russians. Yes it was stationed in Russia but for all we know it could have been antoher crazy org.
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Old 2009-04-22, 04:57   Link #4189
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OH, well yah. But i seriously doubt in the long run that it was made by russians. Yes it was stationed in Russia but for all we know it could have been antoher crazy org.
Not completely going against your point but :

The accident take place in 1981, in our wolrd, this accident create the "alternate" reality where Full Metal Panic take place

So what was the state of our world in 1981. We were in the middle of the Second Cold War, the reawakening of all the tension between the USA and USSR, and the "start" of the economical problem of Soviet Russia.

If a crazy org was doing some kind of experiment in the USSR you can be sure that the government was part of the project or at least know about it and was ok with it. After all the project would have been beneficial for the USSR.
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Old 2009-04-22, 05:14   Link #4190
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Old 2009-04-22, 08:40   Link #4191
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Not completely going against your point but :

The accident take place in 1981, in our wolrd, this accident create the "alternate" reality where Full Metal Panic take place

So what was the state of our world in 1981. We were in the middle of the Second Cold War, the reawakening of all the tension between the USA and USSR, and the "start" of the economical problem of Soviet Russia.

If a crazy org was doing some kind of experiment in the USSR you can be sure that the government was part of the project or at least know about it and was ok with it. After all the project would have been beneficial for the USSR.
True, that could be it. But then again we never know, maybe the leader of Amalgam was a part of that project or something, who knows. I just wouldnt like to blame it all ont he Russians lol.
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Old 2009-04-22, 13:49   Link #4192
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it is all the Ruskis fault, a secret city that was built by the gov just for this project. it is the same idea as the secret town the us developed in WWII to refine uranium with large magnets.
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Old 2009-04-22, 16:38   Link #4193
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O.o it may be so...
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Old 2009-04-22, 17:26   Link #4194
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Old 2009-04-22, 17:41   Link #4195
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Careful you dont want to end up like Zac do you? *taps foot*
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Old 2009-04-22, 19:30   Link #4196
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NOOO i still want to someday have kids, hehehe. And like you, i defeinetely hope for a half happy ending if not fully happy. By that i mean that everyone dies but Sousuke and Chidori end up together no matter what.
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Old 2009-04-22, 20:11   Link #4197
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*screams and hyper ventalates!* OMG OMG Shutazen put 1st chapter of ANOT ;-;...!!!! DIES!*
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THANK YOU SHUTAZEN!!!! *crys in joy*

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PS: LOL thanks sr7olsniper XD your on my team...you get to be a daddy someday..XDXD LOL...
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Old 2009-04-22, 20:23   Link #4198
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**Believes firmly that the romance will live to the end because FMP is not like any other story...., period.*

**Anyone else who tries to change her mind with theories will recieve a stainless-steel halisen up their arse,..**


Careful you dont want to end up like Zac do you? *taps foot*
i agree with the first part. well the second part as well.

i just finished watching Martian Successor Nadesico the series and the Movie the Prince of Darkness and if Full Metal Panic ends anything like that i am going to absolutely loose it and kill anyone that had to do with such a shitty ending.

There has to be a happy ending for Sousuke and Kaname i just cannot see why Gatoh wouldn't end it in a good way after all these years of hardships and waiting for Sousuke, Kaname and US!
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Old 2009-04-22, 20:25   Link #4199
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Nice. gonna read through it later on. also I'm surprised to see another person from Alhambra here on AS.
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Old 2009-04-22, 21:09   Link #4200
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Hehe, you must be talking about me
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