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Old 2009-10-15, 00:11   Link #4621
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i have to say that i was wishing that Sousuke turned back into Kashim during ANOT as he had multiple oppertunities to kill Leonard but did not capitolise on any of them due to the reason that he is Sousuke now.
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Old 2009-10-15, 00:26   Link #4622
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Well will there be a full metal panic following after the second raid?


Season 4 is being postponed by Kyoto (The company that produces the anime), until the light novel series ends. The "climax" of the novel series is said to be in the next release, the anime will conclude the series once the book series has ended.


well, thats that.
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Old 2009-10-15, 00:59   Link #4623
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Your ending theory is like reading a Rape Doujinshi. Ewwww... NO!

A real bad one. LOL....where the characters dont even look like the originals...

and yeah they exist...-sighs- poor Tessa...
Hey, it is not rape doujinshi - it is shoujo. You probably did not read may shoujo's if you think such endings are rare.

There are usually two ways to play good-bad guys.

If shoujo focuses on the main pair then the good guy doesnt get much focus on - usually more in the beginning, until the girl meets the bad guy and the ending where he makes a confession and the girl makes a choice between good and bad guy. She usually go "Yes! Dreams coming true! But why do I have this unhappy feeling in my chest?" Until she realizes that she likes the bad guy now.

Other way if author focuses on love triangle, then both good and bad guy's are getting almost equal 'screen' time, with minor advantage of the bad guy. The bad guy forces to take girl's first kiss, while the good guy gets her second (Sousuke doesn't have this honor though) and the girl even ends up going out with good guy before she realizes how much she started to care the bad guy, though she despised him in the beginning.

It is not rape dojins. Just shoujo. You would be surprised by the amount of manga's where heroine is being forced on by the guy and learns to enjoy it. I sometimes wonder myself too. Why in the girl magazine thats such a popular theme (sometimes in smut with even an actual rape scene).

And yes, selilychidori, romance end is probably the only thing that still makes me curious about FMP to tell the truth. I just became indifferent to everything else in it.
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Old 2009-10-15, 01:17   Link #4624
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Hey, it is not rape doujinshi - it is shoujo. You probably did not read may shoujo's if you think such endings are rare.

There are usually two ways to play good-bad guys.

If shoujo focuses on the main pair then the good guy doesnt get much focus on - usually more in the beginning, until the girl meets the bad guy and the ending where he makes a confession and the girl makes a choice between good and bad guy. She usually go "Yes! Dreams coming true! But why do I have this unhappy feeling in my chest?" Until she realizes that she likes the bad guy now.

Other way if author focuses on love triangle, then both good and bad guy's are getting almost equal 'screen' time, with minor advantage of the bad guy. The bad guy forces to take girl's first kiss, while the good guy gets her second (Sousuke doesn't have this honor though) and the girl even ends up going out with good guy before she realizes how much she started to care the bad guy, though she despised him in the beginning.

It is not rape dojins. Just shoujo. You would be surprised by the amount of manga's where heroine is being forced on by the guy and learns to enjoy it. I sometimes wonder myself too. Why in the girl magazine thats such a popular theme (sometimes in smut with even an actual rape scene).

And yes, selilychidori, romance end is probably the only thing that still makes me curious about FMP to tell the truth. I just became indifferent to everything else in it.
I know what you mean and I agree. That's pretty much why I never read shoujo or worse, josei - where the main character sleeps with every men possible in the manga untill she finds the right one for her; the guy who she never slept with.

There's no way it will happen in FMP though. It's not shoujo in the first place and besides, that would go against the moral code of shounen/seinen manga/novels/anime. FMP crazy fans would raid the author's house.

What selilychidori meant was about doujinshi based on seinen/shounen manga, where the main character will probably lose the girl to the bad guy.
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Old 2009-10-15, 02:31   Link #4625
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Having finished reading Approaching Nick of Time novel I am waiting for the final novel.


I must admit that after having watched all the animes + read all the novels I started to love/hate Kaname+Sousuke couple.


let me explain.

I almost wish Leonard could bag Kaname and Tessa could live a happy life with Sousuke. shocking isn't it

Right now, 'the old Kaname personality' (when she was fully herself) was obviously in love with Sousuke.
Having now a 'mixed' Kaname/Sophia personality makes her former ties look futile.

Why do I almost hate the couple?
Sousuke: Is the less guilty, he has 'always' been a soldier so killing people is not something new.
This said, it seems that in the past he always tried to not let people die if he could avoid it. After Nami's death I started to hate him as he was so focused on being with Kaname that all other people/things didn't matter anymore.
(be it his team, friends or others)
Nevertheless I must admit he was already like that in TSR.

Kaname: she is the big problem here and I almost ended up loving/understanding Leonard.

That a normal HS girl living a regular life becomes what she is now is almost too much for me.

I must admire that author for developing her character in such a believable way.
She became ready to have all people die just to be with Sousuke, she became a murderer but at the same time she remains indecisive until almost the end.

It can be summarized by 'I started to love Sousuke, I want to be with him but I don't want to go back to him', crazy isn't it?

The poor Sousuke is always nearly killed but she couldn't do the right thing and go back to him when she had the opportunity.


I know, both main characters went through a lot and did a lot of soul-searching, especially for Kaname having to deal with both a clueless and inadapted Sousuke and with all the problems her 'whispered' status brought to her.

Anyway, what could the final novel be?

Logical way:
. A big final battle is mandatory, people assaulting the island while Leo and Sophia are trying to complete their ritual/time machine or whatever you want to call it.

- Final duel Sousuke versus Leo would also be normal (the revenge?)

- Kaname 'comes back', either freeing herself from the 'mix' with Sophia or whatever -> changing the world/reset the time is too big a thing

- Sousuke and Kaname have their 'first kiss'

Nicer way?
- Final battle + final duel

- Sophia-Kaname succeed in changing the time or whatever -> hence it would mean black tech and all the 'future' doesn't exist

- Sousuke is somewhere in the world, doesn't know/never met Kaname -> Kaname has to find him (provided she didn't forget everything herself)

My dream (which will never happen except in a fanfiction)

- Final battle + mega duel Sousuke><Leo -> Leo dies but by doing so allows Sophia-Kaname to complete the super mega change the world thing

- Sophia-Kaname erase the 'whispers' hence the whispered are normal people again but in the process she dies to save the world (sort of) and exchange a first and last kiss with Sousuke

- Tessa takes care of Sousuke and helps him heal his heart
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Old 2009-10-15, 07:22   Link #4626
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There's no way it will happen in FMP though. It's not shoujo in the first place and besides, that would go against the moral code of shounen/seinen manga/novels/anime. FMP crazy fans would raid the author's house.
Well though the story is shounen, the way romance develops so far, it looks more like cheap shoujo rather than shounen if you'd ask me. That's why if they keep same progression in this regard, we may get a shoujo-istic ending as well.

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I almost wish Leonard could bag Kaname and Tessa could live a happy life with Sousuke. shocking isn't it
Not really. I would not mind that too, to tell the truth. At first when I was still FP fan I really enoued Chidori, but as story progressed I found that I like Kaname less and less and like Tessa more than before.

At very least Tessa deserves her kiss with Sousuke. If such bastard as Leonard got his kiss twice, it would be fair for Tessa to get hers, as she deserves that at least.
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Old 2009-10-15, 07:53   Link #4627
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Hmn...

I think that, you can't find in the novels feelings of Kaname towards Leonard that resemble a shoujo. Just cause she doesn't kill him? Well, she tried.

There is no mistake. Chidori loves Sousuke. It's clear to the two halfs (Chidori and "Sophia/Chidori"). Leonard is just a way to archieve the most powerful Tauros engine.

The only problem in that is Leonard. He seens to worship Kaname for her "whispered" potential. It doesn't seens just a physical attraction. The kisses sounds more like him trying to break her spirit than something else. The first time she was totally subdued by her situation. When she finally undertood her feelings for Sousuke, he dissapear leaving behind an assassin trying to kill her. And in the second, sounds more like a exchange for Lemon's life (he nearly got dumped from the plane in a snowy mountain).

And no, the series is not sounding like a cheap shoujo. It seens that you guys really like shoujo, but if this novel doesn't go the way you like then it is "cheap"? It is not a fanfic. Gatou is really taking his time, he is a professional. He will not write whatever comes in his mind. And we will have to bear with it.
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Old 2009-10-15, 18:15   Link #4628
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After reading all these comments about not wanting the ending to be with Kaname and Sousuke together, I have one thing to say.



WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Sousuke and Kaname were meant to be!

If they indeed do an ending that sousuke dies, and kaname ends up with Leonard, this series would be horrible. Why build it up, to make it have such a horrible ending?
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Old 2009-10-15, 18:24   Link #4629
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Old 2009-10-15, 18:47   Link #4630
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I guess I still like the Kaname/Sousuke ship because she wouldn't be in the position that she's currently in were it not for her decision to go with Leonard to spare Sousuke's life. I also believe that she might feel that a lot of people would be safer if she stayed with Amalgam for the time being.
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Old 2009-10-15, 18:49   Link #4631
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I still want to know what's up with the old man, always thought he was a cool dude. Then he just joins Leonard.
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I still want to know what's up with the old man, always thought he was a cool dude. Then he just joins Leonard.
I guess you mean, Kalinin. I was disappointed about that too. From what I understand, he joined Leonard because they both share the same goal.
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Old 2009-10-15, 19:31   Link #4633
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That bastard betrayed Mithril? For what reason did he? He was like a father to Sousuke...

Well, if he did betray them then I'm hoping he's betraying them for some valid reason and not to resurrect his wife or something -.-
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Old 2009-10-15, 20:00   Link #4634
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I'm hoping he's an acting spy who'll backstab Leonard (probably unsuccessfully, since his head belongs to Sousuke).
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Old 2009-10-15, 21:33   Link #4635
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After reading all these comments about not wanting the ending to be with Kaname and Sousuke together, I have one thing to say.



WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU!

Sousuke and Kaname were meant to be!

If they indeed do an ending that sousuke dies, and kaname ends up with Leonard, this series would be horrible. Why build it up, to make it have such a horrible ending?
am so proud of you, standing up against these pessimistic nazi's! Lol..


Stand Proud, you have the "Chidori Attitude" and I can say you are DEFINATELY a true fan to the true story.

Hallelulla and Peanut Butter, Amen to you Dark!! Sousuke X Chidori !!

It's funny but alot of fanartist tend to sway away from the original story in animes but ALL the japanese fanartist i seen, tend to be 75% SxC the whole way. I havent even seen a single one of Leonard and chidori. Not one! And it's really really rare and usually not very good art. Tessa is like 20% .

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I'm hoping he's an acting spy who'll backstab Leonard (probably unsuccessfully, since his head belongs to Sousuke).
I still wonder what will happen to Kalinin in the end...=S is he REALLY bad? oh man....

Damn you Leonard, I liked Kalinin!

-Leonard is shoved inside a locker with Sousuke's infamouse bombs,...
.....200 times the size then the original. *walks away*-


wheres the trigger?!?!
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Old 2009-10-15, 21:52   Link #4636
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Remember Sousuke can have Chidori.

I want Tessa.
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i could go berserk if there wasnt a Sousuke x Chidori ending that also includes leonards death.

but i wouldnt mind seeing something along the lines of that after Sousuke and Kaname share their first kiss that tessa tries to make good on her idea

Spoiler for ANOT:


but only gets away with a kissing Sousuke then him getting a warning from Kaname about if he ever does that again she will bring her hallisen out of retirement.

plus it will even the scores up with Kaname getting Kissed by Leonard then Sousuke getting kissed by Tessa.
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Old 2009-10-15, 23:29   Link #4638
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even the scores up with Kaname getting Kissed by Leonard
I think the answer you are searching for is Sousuke stabbing him in the head with a katana while Kaname shoots him in the heart simultaneously.
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Old 2009-10-16, 15:00   Link #4639
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I think the answer you are searching for is Sousuke stabbing him in the head with a katana while Kaname shoots him in the heart simultaneously.
I'll buy that!
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I think the answer you are searching for is Sousuke stabbing him in the head with a katana while Kaname shoots him in the heart simultaneously.
Kick ASS..XD...


I'd love to see these two go Mr. and Mrs Smith on Leonard...XD
I always had this subconcious feeling that Sousuke and Chidori are gonna do something amazing when they join forces. They have this amazing synic energy that just multiplies and they are incredibly ensync to one another.

Or....

* Leonard get's kicked in the balls....by Levithan's titanium foot. *

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