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Old 2006-06-26, 13:21   Link #41
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Hmmm, let's try these ones...

27.) MS-06R-2 Zaku II High Mobility Type vs. MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai =)

28.) MS-09F Dom Funf vs. MS-09R Rick Dom

29.) MSM-04N Agguguy vs. MSM-08 Zogok

30.) RGM-79N GM Custom vs. RGM-79Q GM Quel (interesting given their extreme similarities, lol)

31.) RX-78NT-1 vs. MSN-02 Zeong/Perfect Zeong (basically, what if Amuro had received the Alex instead of it ending up being cancelled after 0080?)

32.) RX-78GP01-Fb Gundam Full Vernian "Zephyranthes" vs. RX-78GP03S Gundam "Dendrobium Stamen"

33.) MSF-007 Gundam Mark III vs. MSR-00100S Hyaku Shiki Kai

34.) MS-15K Gyan Kai vs. AMX-104 R-Jarja

35.) Super Dias vs. RMS-099B Schuzrum Dias


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Old 2006-06-26, 13:30   Link #42
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32.) RX-78GP01-Fb Gundam Full Vernian "Zephyranthes" vs. RX-78GP03S Gundam "Dendrobium Stamen"
The Zephyranthes would win since its alot better than the Stamen in terms of mobile suit stats.

Ofcourse, GP03, must not have the Orchis
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Old 2006-06-26, 14:14   Link #43
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Well so far the only remote weapons that ever worked in the atmosphere are these:

Quebeley's Funnels
Gundam Rose's Rose Bits
Jester Gundam's Balloon Bits
Vertigo's Funnels

These are all small sized funnels, maybe they can support themselves in the atmosphere, but I'm not so sure that the large and non-aerodynamic Fin Funnels can.
Actually, those weapon pods of the Chaos worked too, and they're fairly large. Fin Funnels are larger, but they have an internal reactor and several years of technology advance over the Qubeley's funnels...
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Old 2006-06-26, 14:21   Link #44
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Well so far the only remote weapons that ever worked in the atmosphere are these:

Quebeley's Funnels
Gundam Rose's Rose Bits
Jester Gundam's Balloon Bits
Vertigo's Funnels

These are all small sized funnels, maybe they can support themselves in the atmosphere, but I'm not so sure that the large and non-aerodynamic Fin Funnels can.
Actually, those weapon pods of the Chaos worked too, and they're fairly large. Fin Funnels are larger than Qubeley's, but they have an internal reactor and several years of technology advance over the Qubeley's funnels...
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Old 2006-06-26, 16:39   Link #45
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Hmmm, let's try these ones...

27.) MS-06R-2 Zaku II High Mobility Type vs. MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai =)

28.) MS-09F Dom Funf vs. MS-09R Rick Dom

29.) MSM-04N Agguguy vs. MSM-08 Zogok

30.) RGM-79N GM Custom vs. RGM-79Q GM Quel (interesting given their extreme similarities, lol)

31.) RX-78NT-1 vs. MSN-02 Zeong/Perfect Zeong (basically, what if Amuro had received the Alex instead of it ending up being cancelled after 0080?)

32.) RX-78GP01-Fb Gundam Full Vernian "Zephyranthes" vs. RX-78GP03S Gundam "Dendrobium Stamen"

33.) MSF-007 Gundam Mark III vs. MSR-00100S Hyaku Shiki Kai

34.) MS-15K Gyan Kai vs. AMX-104 R-Jarja

35.) Super Dias vs. RMS-099B Schuzrum Dias


Enjoy! =)

27) The 06R-2 in space, that thing is suppose to be freakishly fast by OYW standards. The FZ on land

28) I think the 09F takes this one. The 09R is just the space version of the 09 and 09F is superior in stats and versatility.

29) Acguy for the win....I mean...its the Acguy LOL..but seriously the Zogok is superior

30) GM custom vs GM quel...they are the exact samething LOL...quel is the Titans version of custom

31) The Alex would win without a doubt. On the other hand the Perfect Zeong has legs which means Char can kick like he did with the Zaku...

32) GP-01fb...superior stats and designed for combat. The 03s was more like a "oh shit the orchis is gone I have to survive somehow."

33) R-Jarja...Chara Soon's boobs for the win

34) I am taking the Schuzrum Dias on this match. It was refined by Axis instead of trying to copy super gundam
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Old 2006-06-26, 16:48   Link #46
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Old 2006-06-26, 17:28   Link #47
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Some more matches by request:

36.) RX-105 Xi Gundam vs RX-104FF Penelope

37.) LM314V23 Victory 2 Buster Gundam vs. LM314V24 Victory 2 Assault Gundam

38.) ORX-13 Gundam Mark V vs . AMX-014 Doven Wolf

39.) RX-78GP03 Dendrobium vs. MSA-0011[Bst] Ex-S Gundam Booster Type "Plan 303E" Deep Striker

40.) FA-010S Full Armor Enhanced ZZ Gundam vs. FA-100S Full Armor Hyaku Shiki Kai

41.) MSZ-08 Z II vs. RGZ-91B Re-GZ Custom
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Old 2006-06-27, 00:40   Link #48
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Another one I forgot to add on (and can't believe I forgot!!)

42.) RX-78GP04G Gundam Gerbera vs. AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra
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Old 2006-06-27, 02:15   Link #49
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The Infiite Justice vs The Epyon. Something I would to see.
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Old 2006-06-27, 03:01   Link #50
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erff... people throw MS names that never saw combat or were never seen in action, pretty annoying

I've got a few ideas myself:
- Gundam ZZ vs. Mega Zeta
- Justice Gundam (09) vs. Testament Gundam + Divine Striker
- Saviour Gundam vs. Proto-Saviour ()
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43.) MSA-003 Nemo vs. RMS-108 Marasai

44.) MSA-005S Methuss Kai vs. ORX-005 Gaplant

45.) RX-178+FXA-05D Super Gundam vs. Super Dias

46.) MAN-05-2 Gromlin II vs. (couldn't think of a good MA to put against the Gromlin II, lol)

47.) F91 Gundam F91 vs. RXF-91 Silhouette Gundam

48.) AMX-102 Zssa vs. G-M2F (AMX-102) Zssan

49.) Gattle vs. Geze (lol)

50.) AMX-008 Ga-Zowm vs. RMS-099B Schuzrum Dias
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Old 2006-06-27, 22:47   Link #52
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∞ Justice probably will have the upper hand against Epyon, simply due to the lack of Epyon's weaponry.

No matter how fast Epyon is, even with the Zero System, it only has two weapons. ∞ Justice will just sit there, because Epyon will have to get close anyway. The backpack will chase Epyon all the way to hell and back, and if it doesnt cut Epyon, it will at least lead it back to ∞ Justice forcing it to engage in close combat, where it can block its beam sword with its beam shield or ∞ Justice's own beam sword (many things ∞ Justice has can block Epyon's beam sword.) Then as for the heat rod, the leg blades or darth maul sabers can take care of that. I'd also take it that the heat rod would be useless against PS armor.
Then while Epyon is busy, the backpack just comes in out of nowhere and slice.
Let's see the Zero System calculate a solution for that.





Ah, I really really feel like posting THIS:

ZGMF-X20A 'Strike Freedom' Gundam

VS

ZGMF-X19A '∞ Justice' Gundam



You KNOW you wanna see this.
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Old 2006-06-27, 23:03   Link #53
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Ah, I really really feel like posting THIS:

ZGMF-X20A 'Strike Freedom' Gundam

VS

ZGMF-X19A '∞ Justice' Gundam



You KNOW you wanna see this.
Yeah I would like a fight like that unfortunately my favorite of the two ∞ Justice will most likely loose. The strike freedom has much more power and longer range than the ∞ Justice it has the dragoons which could surround the ∞ Justice and probably destroy it. ∞ Justice is mostly close rage the Strike Freedom is more versital and could destroy it before it got in close enough to do enough damage. There were so many close range weapons on ∞ Justice that even Athrun forgot to use them all in it's brief appearence not enough long range combat ability to beat strike freedom, but then again who knows might be able to get in close and finish off the freedom. I'm gonna say ∞ Justice because I just like it more it's the underdog.
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Old 2006-06-27, 23:35   Link #54
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Infinite Justice VS. Epyon
Epyon seems to have a huge speed advantage as well as armor. I. Justice has way more toys to use but some would be useless. The Epyon system would make most of the Justices attacks ineffective. The Gundanium was seen to be able to withstand countless beams. The Epyons Sword can extend extremely far so it could use the weapon to keep I justice at bay. Epyon also seems way more agile so hit and run would work. The Justice has knee sabers and they would prove a huge problem. The Dual edged saber has been useless. The only people to every use the saber right is Rey and maybe gundam seed 50 Kira. Eypon's heat rod would be useless unless it can melt the joints of Justice. Justice never used its grappling stinger except maybe final plus. The beam shield wouldn't be helpful in a melee battle against Epyon. Well anyway the battle would go to Epyon if both pilots were experienced.

Infinite Justice VS. Strike Freedom

On the Earth Justice in space it depends on the pilots.
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Old 2006-06-27, 23:47   Link #55
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I wouldn't say ∞ Justice is underdogged against Strike Freedom.
Dragoons, with the right pilot can be dodged as well as taken down (we've seen Legend, Destiny and Freedom dodge dragoons).
While ∞ Justice is busy with the Dragoons, it could send its backpack to distract Freedom and chase it down, luring it into a close range fight with it. If Freedom were to use any of it's guns up close, Justice would just slice them off, aside from the chest/belly cannon.

IMHO, ∞ Justice seems to be more a dog-fight style, one-on-one duel-like specialisation, while Strike Freedom is more the one man army fighting against countless grunts. So I'd say in a one on one situation, ∞ Justice (with the right pilot) could dodge all the beams spamming out of Freedom and if the pilot was wise, he/she would take advantage of the backpack then get close to slice off the rail cannons and rifles, forcing Freedom to draw beam sabers, which the Justice will wreck it at.
However, when it comes down to who can destroy as many grunts first, it'll be Freedom, because it can just take everything down with one all out attack, while Justice has to cut up grunts one by one.

Freedom though, you launch dragoons and try to annoy Justice while combining its rifles and take pot shots at it to keep it at bay. However, We've seen strategies like that used by Providence (the bombarding with dragoons plus taking pot shots with the rifle tactic) and Legend, etc. and it proved that it wasn't all that sure fire after all.

On Earth, I'd say Justice, because well, if you use Destiny Gundam as a measure, Freedom and Destiny were kinda evenly matched, but then Justice came out and made rather short work of Destiny, plus Freedom doesnt appear to be able to use Dragoons on Earth.


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We've seen Freedom block beams star wars style with his beam saber before, lol, so why cant Justice block beam shots with all its blades too
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Old 2006-06-28, 00:06   Link #56
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∞ Justice probably will have the upper hand against Epyon, simply due to the lack of Epyon's weaponry.

No matter how fast Epyon is, even with the Zero System, it only has two weapons. ∞ Justice will just sit there, because Epyon will have to get close anyway. The backpack will chase Epyon all the way to hell and back, and if it doesnt cut Epyon, it will at least lead it back to ∞ Justice forcing it to engage in close combat, where it can block its beam sword with its beam shield or ∞ Justice's own beam sword (many things ∞ Justice has can block Epyon's beam sword.) Then as for the heat rod, the leg blades or darth maul sabers can take care of that. I'd also take it that the heat rod would be useless against PS armor.
Then while Epyon is busy, the backpack just comes in out of nowhere and slice.
Let's see the Zero System calculate a solution for that.
The Epyon is way to fast for the backpack. The Epyon could just dodge the back, sling his heat rod and destory the back pack. That would then force the 2 into close range combat. Any fire power IJ has would be useless against Gundanium. I also think the Epyon is alot faster then the IJ. I also think the Epyon is physically stronger then the IJ. That would give the Epyon a advantage in any sort of melee fight. And the IJ's beam saber is the only thing IJ(along with the beam boomerangs) that could damage the Epyon. And I don't the IJ could last in a Melee fight againt the Epyon.



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Ah, I really really feel like posting THIS:

ZGMF-X20A 'Strike Freedom' Gundam

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ZGMF-X19A '∞ Justice' Gundam



You KNOW you wanna see this.
The SF would have no problem beating the IJ. The SF is faster and has way to mutch fire power. Theres no way the IJ could win.
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It's impossible to declare with 100% certainty that something from one universe is more durable than from another universe.

IMO, Gundanium armor is just much, much stronger metal (I mean...4 large torpedos were enough to damage it as well as beam cannons from Virgos and such) while Phase Shift Armor basically deflects practically any physical attack (like missiles, machine guns, etc) and weaker beam attacks.

I'm fairly certain that the Infinite Justice would stand up quite well to the Epyon, especially considering it has more weaponry at hand (especially for melee) as well as some ranged weapons for greater combat versitality (while Epyon is completely stuck with having to move in close). Don't forget that it also has its MR-Q15A "Griffon" leg beam blade, allowing it to make very deadly kicks as well.

Even with the ZERO System (which I hardly consider an "edge" anymore by the end of Gundam Wing), the Epyon would have a pretty hard fight on its hands...but there's no way to really tell for sure since they're 2 completely different universes.
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The SF would have no problem beating the IJ. The SF is faster and has way to mutch fire power. Theres no way the IJ could win.
IMO, I don't believe SF or IJ are faster or slower than each other.
And firepower doesn't always win the battle, again, just my opinion.
And as much as I'm an Freedom fan more than Justice, I believe Justice can win (but so can Freedom).
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IMO, I don't believe SF or IJ are faster or slower than each other.
And firepower doesn't always win the battle, again, just my opinion.
And as much as I'm an Freedom fan more than Justice, I believe Justice can win (but so can Freedom).
I don't know.....The SF looked pretty damn fast. Almost as fast as the destiny. From what I've seen the SF is just.....perfect! I see no weakness with it. The IJ is a cool/better looking then the SF MS, but I don't think it could beat the SF. especially if Kira is the pilot. I don't see any advantage IJ would have aganist the SF.

But I havn't seen every episode of Seed/Destiny. So you know more than I do.
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Just to recap, in case anyone missed them or is just joining in with us, here the VS one's I put up; (in order)


1.) MS-06F Zaku II vs. OZ06-MS Leo

2.) MS-14JG Gelgoog Jager vs. AMS-119 Gear Doga

3.) AMX-002/AMA-02 Neue Ziel vs. NZ-333 Alpha Azieru

4.) RGM-79 GM vs. GAT-01 Strike Dagger

5.) XXXG-01H2 Gundam Heavyarms Kai (OVA version) vs. GT-9600-D Gundam Leopard Destroy.

6.) AMX-004 Qubeley vs. RMSN-008 Bertigo

7.) MRX-011 Mass Production Type Psyco Gundam vs. AMX-014 Doven Wolf

8.) NZ-000 Quin Mantha vs. NZ-333 Alpha Azieru

9.) OMSM-07RF RF Z'Gok vs. UMF-4A GOOhN or UMF-5 ZnO

10.) MSN-02 Zeong/Perfect Zeong vs. MAN-002 Febral

11.) LM314V21 Victory 2 Gundam vs. ZMT-S37S Zanspine

12.) XMA-01 Raffelsia vs. MAN-003 Patulia

13.) AMX-014 Doven Wolf vs. AMX-015 Geymark

14.) AMX-117L Gazu-L vs. AMX-117R Gazu-R (lol)

15.) RX-78GP02A Gundam Physalis vs. AMX-017 Gigantic

16.) MS-06F Zaku II vs. MS-06 Borjarnon (yeah, I know they're basically the exact same thing, but you never know how time changes things and all =P lol)

17.) MS-05B Zaku I vs. MS-06 Borjarnon Gavane Goonny Custom (same as above)

18.) MA-09 Mass Production Type Big Zam vs. JMA-0530 Walking Dome "WaDom"

19.) TGM-79 GM Trainer vs. MS-06W Worker Zaku

20.) MS-09F/Gb Dom Gross Beil vs. YMS-15 Gyan

21.) MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai vs. RMS-106 Hizack

22.) RMS-099 (MSA-099) Rick Dias vs. MS-09RII Rick Dom II

23.) MS-14JG Gelgoog Jager vs. MS-14J ReGelg

24.) OZ-13MS Gundam Epyon vs. OZ-00MS2B Tallgeese III

25.) AMX-011 Zaku III vs. AMX-009 Dreissen

26.) MSN-03 Jagd Doga vs. RX-94 Mass Production Type n Gundam

27.) RGM-86R GM III vs. RGZ-91 Re-GZ

27.) MS-06R-2 Zaku II High Mobility Type vs. MS-06FZ Zaku II Kai

28.) MS-09F Dom Funf vs. MS-09R Rick Dom

29.) MSM-04N Agguguy vs. MSM-08 Zogok

30.) RGM-79N GM Custom vs. RGM-79Q GM Quel

31.) RX-78NT-1 vs. MSN-02 Zeong/Perfect Zeong

32.) RX-78GP01-Fb Gundam Full Vernian "Zephyranthes" vs. RX-78GP03S Gundam "Dendrobium Stamen"

33.) MSF-007 Gundam Mark III vs. MSR-00100S Hyaku Shiki Kai

34.) MS-15K Gyan Kai vs. AMX-104 R-Jarja

35.) Super Dias vs. RMS-099B Schuzrum Dias

36.) RX-105 Xi Gundam vs RX-104FF Penelope

37.) LM314V23 Victory 2 Buster Gundam vs. LM314V24 Victory 2 Assault Gundam

38.) ORX-13 Gundam Mark V vs . AMX-014 Doven Wolf

39.) RX-78GP03 Dendrobium vs. MSA-0011[Bst] Ex-S Gundam Booster Type "Plan 303E" Deep Striker

40.) FA-010S Full Armor Enhanced ZZ Gundam vs. FA-100S Full Armor Hyaku Shiki Kai

41.) MSZ-08 Z II vs. RGZ-91B Re-GZ Custom

42.) RX-78GP04G Gundam Gerbera vs. AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra

43.) MSA-003 Nemo vs. RMS-108 Marasai

44.) MSA-005S Methuss Kai vs. ORX-005 Gaplant

45.) RX-178+FXA-05D Super Gundam vs. Super Dias

46.) MAN-05-2 Gromlin II vs. (couldn't think of a good MA to put against the Gromlin II, lol)

47.) F91 Gundam F91 vs. RXF-91 Silhouette Gundam

48.) AMX-102 Zssa vs. G-M2F (AMX-102) Zssan

49.) Gattle vs. Geze (lol)

50.) AMX-008 Ga-Zowm vs. RMS-099B Schuzrum Dias
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