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Old 2006-07-27, 02:24   Link #61
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NOW! we have ANOHTER cooler picture

http://xs204.xs.to/xs204/06304/1153859140978.jpg

Go stargazer!

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Old 2006-08-07, 15:12   Link #62
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stargazer looks like it needs a hug

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Old 2006-08-07, 16:28   Link #63
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Wow, that's a weird pose, a bit funny, but still weird.
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Old 2006-08-07, 17:18   Link #64
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That $hit looks dope...Like an ASTRAY on some good crack...I'm almost expecting the White-Tiger Power Ranger to pilot it X)...Unfortunatley it doesn't look like it's in the same universe as the series...It looks much cleaner, with a simple yet crisp design...I personally think the ring gives it some personality and I do expect it will do something...It's really sucks to see these cool-looking suits (Stargazer and Noir) are just the prototypes for GSD cannon fodder....They look like the type of suits that could have made a difference...
Couldn't have said it better myself.

And thanks sx3 for the sweet images.

Off-topic: Can't help but ask from which character in Naruto is that avatar of yours from? Haven't watched the anime since the beginning stages of the Sasuke Rescue arc.
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Old 2006-08-08, 01:58   Link #65
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

And thanks sx3 for the sweet images.

Off-topic: Can't help but ask from which character in Naruto is that avatar of yours from? Haven't watched the anime since the beginning stages of the Sasuke Rescue arc.
no problem lol, ill keep posting the Stargazer pictures whenever i can, the most recent ones i can find that is that gundam simply just amazes me, i hope it does something cool

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Old 2006-08-18, 16:47   Link #66
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Guys do any of you by any chance know how to take screenshots with Real Player? because i just watched Episode 2 of stargazer and we see stargazer usings its "wings of light" propulsion style thing and its pritty wicked but the video file came in some wierd thing so i had to use Real instead of VLC, i have no idea how to take screen shots. any help? i want to show you guys some pictures
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Old 2006-08-18, 17:04   Link #67
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Stargazer has a wing of light? what color is it? and is it a cool butter fly like Shinn has?
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Old 2006-08-18, 17:17   Link #68
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...Does this help?
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Old 2006-08-18, 17:28   Link #69
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Thanks. Meh...I'm kinda disapointed. It's WOL doesn't look as cool as the others IMO.
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Old 2006-08-18, 17:45   Link #70
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Well, it looks like the traveling device on Stargazer is similar in concept to the original Genesis beam.

As some of us know, Genesis cannon was originally designed not as a weapon, but as a propulsion system used to assist in traveling long distances in space for ships with the right design. It looks like Stargazer could use that.
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Old 2006-08-18, 17:50   Link #71
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IIRC Junk Guild still had a hold of GENESIS Alpha until EA (and Testament) started to attack to seize control of it, forcing JG to self-detonate the cannon...wonder if they created a new one or if they found something less ambitious but just as efficient as the GENESIS Alpha.
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Old 2006-08-18, 17:52   Link #72
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I assume that since Stargazer is supposed to use 'light' as a method of propulsion, the beam emitter is probably emitting photons, meaning a giant torchlight lol
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Old 2006-08-18, 19:47   Link #73
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I assume that since Stargazer is supposed to use 'light' as a method of propulsion, the beam emitter is probably emitting photons, meaning a giant torchlight lol
Gamma radiation is a form of light, although not in the visible spectrum. Thus, it's a variation of Genesis beam propulsion.
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Old 2006-08-18, 19:57   Link #74
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Gamma radiation is a form of light, although not in the visible spectrum. Thus, it's a variation of Genesis beam propulsion.
Gamma radiation is a form of electromagnetic radiation you mean, I literally meant that Stargazer could be propelled by visible light lol

But yea, it could be a variation of Genesis.
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Old 2006-08-18, 20:29   Link #75
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Gamma radiation is a form of electromagnetic radiation you mean, I literally meant that Stargazer could be propelled by visible light lol

But yea, it could be a variation of Genesis.
electromagnetic radiation = photons. So yes, we are talking about the same thing.

(Whether it is visible to the human eye or not is irrelevant; there is nothing special about visible light.)
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Old 2006-08-19, 04:43   Link #76
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Gamma rays, infrareds, X-rays, visible light, etc are all radiations - therefore all electromagnetic waves at different levels of the EM spectrum. Since it's pure energy (matter also happens to be trapped energy, too), it is possible to convert it to kinetic energy or whatnot. I do recall Physics 101 about how it's possible to use a flashlight in space to actually propel oneself although one would need quite specific conditions (I believe you need an area without any important mass or attraction force in the surroundings...can't remember) for that and I'm not sure one would gain speeds high enough to rival that of a SF-like Mobile Suit.

IIRC (I'll wait for the subbers to do the translation to get a confirmation) they used a giant laser towards the Stargazer's annular sail...which is quite spectacular but I hoped that the Voiture Lumière would be more than that - not just a sail...I still have a glimmer of hope left since Delta Astray doesn't use a laser to propel itself through space and the effects are drawn different from the anime (which, I should concede, doesn't mean a rat's ass in the meantime).

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As an afterthought...if Stargazer needs the mother of all lasers to gain momentum and travel far into space...
How does it do to come back home without the laser behind it? Conventional thrusters?
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Gamma rays, infrareds, X-rays, visible light, etc are all radiations - therefore all electromagnetic waves at different levels of the EM spectrum. Since it's pure energy (matter also happens to be trapped energy, too), it is possible to convert it to kinetic energy or whatnot. I do recall Physics 101 about how it's possible to use a flashlight in space to actually propel oneself although one would need quite specific conditions (I believe you need an area without any important mass or attraction force in the surroundings...can't remember) for that and I'm not sure one would gain speeds high enough to rival that of a SF-like Mobile Suit.

IIRC (I'll wait for the subbers to do the translation to get a confirmation) they used a giant laser towards the Stargazer's annular sail...which is quite spectacular but I hoped that the Voiture Lumière would be more than that - not just a sail...I still have a glimmer of hope left since Delta Astray doesn't use a laser to propel itself through space and the effects are drawn different from the anime (which, I should concede, doesn't mean a rat's ass in the meantime).

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As an afterthought...if Stargazer needs the mother of all lasers to gain momentum and travel far into space...
How does it do to come back home without the laser behind it? Conventional thrusters?
Stargazer isn't suppose to return I think, just like the deep space probes Voyager 1 and 2.

Theories on laser propulsion has been around for long. One method uses the Sun's rays, reflected and concentrated into a laser to push probes into deep space. I guess Delta Astray and Stargazer works the same way.
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If Stargazer is an entirely consumable unit then I find it an awful waste of money - even today's probes would have longer uses for that or at least they sacrifice less. Heck, even NASA created the space shuttle because it got bored of launching non-reusable rockets into space only to see burning hulks come back from the upper strata of the atmosphere or just an eleventh or twelfth of the original mass returning in the owners' hands. Reagan even initiated the X33 program to replace the OV-102 model and have the world's first completely reusable space vehicle (it didn't have an external tank or rocket jettisonable boosters) but budget issues shitcanned the entire project.

On the other topic - maybe it can use the solar wind to come back? Dunno...I wonder if the Voiture Lumière works better in the Van Allen radiation belts since we were talking energy waves earlier on...
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Well, since neither of us discussing on Stargazer's propulsion has watched the raws yet, we don't really know how it works and what really propels it lol

The Stargazer is supposed to be unmanned, pointing more towards a non-returning probe. Its probably in the form of an MS, so that it has arms to shield itself with its beam shields and as a Gundam so it has a secondary defence with Phase Shift armour.

If Stargazer is going to travel deep into space, I don't see why it should stay in the vicinity of the Earth, it has no relations with the Van Allen belts. But if its going in circles around Earth, I don't think the Van Allen Belts would provide an benefit too. It would probably fry circuits staying there lol
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Gamma rays, infrareds, X-rays, visible light, etc are all radiations - therefore all electromagnetic waves at different levels of the EM spectrum. Since it's pure energy (matter also happens to be trapped energy, too), it is possible to convert it to kinetic energy or whatnot. I do recall Physics 101 about how it's possible to use a flashlight in space to actually propel oneself although one would need quite specific conditions (I believe you need an area without any important mass or attraction force in the surroundings...can't remember) for that and I'm not sure one would gain speeds high enough to rival that of a SF-like Mobile Suit.
Provided you've got an infinite energy supply, and an infinite amount of time (in which your craft doesn't break down...), you can get arbitrarily close to the speed of light.
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