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Old 2007-02-20, 03:47   Link #1081
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So the show ended. I still think the Union Bastards got of too ligthly. You dont just start expermenting on people by youself, there have to be a framework and a willingnes to do it. What I mean is that it could not have been taken place whitout somebody higher up approval. You dont do it unless you are Nazi bastards and/or about to loose a war.
It is interesting to note that they have not won the war, even thought they received at huge tech boost ( the strains) it suggests that the Deauge was winning anyway. the nearest thing that comes to mind is the Nazi-germany in WW2 they developed Jets, missiles, helicopters, and tanks that was years ahead of anyone else, but they stille did not have the ressourses to win.
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Old 2007-02-20, 04:18   Link #1082
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So the show ended. I still think the Union Bastards got of too ligthly. You dont just start expermenting on people by youself, there have to be a framework and a willingnes to do it. What I mean is that it could not have been taken place whitout somebody higher up approval. You dont do it unless you are Nazi bastards and/or about to loose a war.
It is interesting to note that they have not won the war, even thought they received at huge tech boost ( the strains) it suggests that the Deauge was winning anyway. the nearest thing that comes to mind is the Nazi-germany in WW2 they developed Jets, missiles, helicopters, and tanks that was years ahead of anyone else, but they stille did not have the ressourses to win.
Hahaha, They're Zeon.

But seriosuly, how come nobody spells "lose" properly anymore by the way. You always have to loose(en?) something now rather than win it. I think its past the point of 50% mispelling where it might as well be entered into the dictionary as the new spelling along with definately instead of definitely and To(bone)marrow instead of tomorrow. Still, it drives a grammar/spelling freak like me nuts though, as I see it absolutely everywhere on the internet far more so than the real spelling, spreading like wildfire and confusing everybody on the proper spelling (apparently it's up there with To, Too and Two. It's really strange as I never had trouble with it)

Anyway enough about that, sorry.

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It's like Pearl Harbour the movie with the crappy love story and "The Big One" as the back drop. Except, this show still managed to do a better job on almost everything compared to Pearl Harbour.

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Old 2007-02-20, 11:30   Link #1083
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Hahaha, They're Zeon.

But seriosuly, how come nobody spells "lose" properly anymore by the way. You always have to loose(en?) something now rather than win it. I think its past the point of 50% mispelling where it might as well be entered into the dictionary as the new spelling along with definately instead of definitely and To(bone)marrow instead of tomorrow. Still, it drives a grammar/spelling freak like me nuts though, as I see it absolutely everywhere on the internet far more so than the real spelling, spreading like wildfire and confusing everybody on the proper spelling (apparently it's up there with To, Too and Two. It's really strange as I never had trouble with it)

Anyway enough about that, sorry.

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probably its because when people say lose they ofter prolong the "oooo" part in speech and it shows when typing

and about the loli...may me downfall repeat again and again

but seriously i think the series focused too much on just one side of the universe...i wonder how things (battles) are different lightyears away ~ could there have been a similar incident? its not like ralph is someone who is known for his betrayal throughout the stretches of the universe (or is he? )
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Old 2007-02-20, 20:39   Link #1084
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It's true that signing up to be a soldier means that you've accepted the risk of death. But that doesn't automatically make it okay for someone to kill you.

If Ralph was, say, gunning for the researchers who'd dissected doll-Emily or the top brass who gave the order, so that the aliens could live in peace, then that would be one thing. If the Union military opposed him and he had to kill some of them, he could at least attempt to justify that in the name of his cause. But it's clear by the end that what he would like is to inflict collective punishment on the entire human species for the suffering of the Emilies, which occurred generations ago. To answer one atrocity with another is morally indefensible, even more so when you're taking revenge not on those who committed the original wrong, but on their children and grandchildren.

I do feel sympathy for Ralph, but not for his viewpoint. Sara had the right idea. Sometimes there's nothing else you can do.
I agree just because your pissed off at humanity doesnt mean you should go around trying to wipe it out of the universe. I do understand why Ralph acted the way he did the scientist should have been the ones that were punished. The other greater than humanities capacity for achieving goals is humanities capacity to commit horrible sins.

Hell if i went around destroying humans whenever i thought our species was being stupid there would be no one left.

Iv kind of avoided this thread due to the fact that im waiting for the last ep to be subbed. But i have pretty good idea how it will end, but iv still made sure not to read any spoilers
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Old 2007-02-21, 13:37   Link #1085
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It is interesting to note that they have not won the war, even thought they received at huge tech boost ( the strains) it suggests that the Deauge was winning anyway. the nearest thing that comes to mind is the Nazi-germany in WW2 they developed Jets, missiles, helicopters, and tanks that was years ahead of anyone else, but they stille did not have the ressourses to win.
Do NOT make me break out the WWII buff in me to reply to that .

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It's like Pearl Harbour the movie with the crappy love story and "The Big One" ...
I do hope you don't mean the Stuart Slade "novel" .
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Old 2007-02-22, 13:46   Link #1086
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For those who have been following Strain through... , today your patience has paid off.

<censored> has released their ... for episodes 12 & 13 in a double pack.

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Old 2007-02-23, 07:16   Link #1087
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Well that's the series. Was nice waiting for the final episodes to be subbed. At least a small part of the situation has been resolved. Ralph can rest in piece and be released from the torture his mind and body had to go through. Didn't really matter if Sarah killed him since he was clearly going to die regardless. Though how he was planning on wiping out humanity with a single strain is hard to see.

Sadly I can understand his entire feelings on the situation. Maybe Emily's people can't feel the rage for revenge that humans do. Sara lucked out being able to know what happened without having to actually feel it. Don't think anyone could have kept their sanity and not want to go on a bloody path of destruction. I'd probably go on a crazed rampage myself if I was capable of it. It's not right, but after what the Union did and a war that is costing so many lives it doesn't really matter what's right.

Really wonder what'll happen for Sara and Emily in the future. Would she keep fighting? Leave the military (hopfully without dealing with the military in it)? Dragging Emily everywhere in a war that can't still have a meaning outside revenge for the losses that have occured. If this war has gotten to a point of just getting revenge for what has happened then Ralph's actions were just going along with the human problem of being unable to let things go.

Wonder if anything will happen to the Union. You'd think the higher ups would do whatever they could to silence Sara and the others from talking about it. Will anyone do something about it? Are people just going to say "Well it's war, we gotta do what we gotta do." I'm sure the Deague publically will condemn the Union for it (good propaganda) though they were willing to run experiments themselves even during the show.

The series did a good job of showing a small part of a giant struggle. I'm surprised how many characters actually survived to the end. Was expecting some major casualties but really they made sure to save many of them even the annoying people that bullied Sara early on. A great show in dealing with the pains a war like that can create and showing that no matter what era there are people that will do whatever they can for 'progress' including torturing poor lolis. It was short but an excellent show.
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Old 2007-02-24, 13:09   Link #1088
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Wow, I just finished watching the last episode of Strain - great series, indeed. Nothing more to add here, as everything has already been said.
8/10
'Just' 8 because of the 7th episode that left me with an unpleasant feeling.

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lol at the planet of loli's
My thoughts exactly ;p
If I would be one of the researchers that enter there, I would say:
"Oh my God... it is full of lolies"
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Old 2007-02-24, 17:47   Link #1089
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Just finished the last episode. Indeed a surprisingly good series, with the "harsh reality strikes" scenes playing nice counterpoint to standard anime cuteness scenes (showers, sandwiches, jolly camaraderie).

It would've been nice to see some more definitive ending to the backstory, that is, the matter of the warpgate business and its relation to the ongoing war. There were also a bit too many serious physics bugs in dire need of fixing, even by the usual space anime standards. Gravity and momentum were a bit too optional, air on the ship wasn't as keen to escape into vacuum as you'd expect (unless the plot required it) and I'm pretty sure the time dilation explanations had some Enterprise-sized holes in them.
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Old 2007-02-25, 03:21   Link #1090
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NOOOOO!!!!~~
*SWG screams a large D.Vader-NOO*

dude, only 13 eps!? Man, I really wish they made more.
And what planet did they land on in the ending? Earth? Or was that the alien planet?

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....Hell if i went around destroying humans whenever i thought our species was being stupid there would be no one left.
And I bet Bush would be the first to go right? lol
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Old 2007-02-25, 05:22   Link #1091
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Random Thoughts on Ep10-13
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  • Yes, I actually held back watching in order to marathon the last few episodes. This was because Ep07-09 made my anime-soul dribble wretchedly out of my physical being. Not as bad as Ep01 of Soul Link though, that one caused my anime-soul to gush out of all my orifices...

    I am pleased to report that these episodes redeemed Soukou no Strain in my eyes. Not to the point of adulation, but enough for me to be glad that I watched this series.
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  • I am glad that they made Ralph's descent believable. I was wondering how the heck did his mind break like that. Mental breakdown from Loli-mindraping? I can go with that.

    After all, that particular alien girl was dying, so I don't think she could have conveyed her thoughts properly to Ralph, leading to the screwing up of his mind.
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  • Nevertheless... NOOOO! Not the Bridge-Bunnies! Ralph, you bastard!
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  • I laughed when a door sealed a soldier off, leaving him to be consumed by an incoming fireball( Ep12, 05:58 onwards).
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  • The momentum of the final battle was a bit touch-and-go for me. At times, it felt as though everybody( INCLUDING the enemy) was having a tea-break before resuming battle.
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  • Dickon is a smart man. Sureeee... he might have fractured his arm, bumped his head around and took a shot in the shoulder, but its' better than being headshotted by Ralph in Ep12 for falling in love with Sara.

    I mean. This is one-shot-kill Ralph we're talking about here.

    Ralph: "You're just associates with Sara? Fine. I'll just cripple you bit by bit."

    Hmm... maybe it's not the better option after all.
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  • Sara: "Catapults are for losers! I'll just jump out of the launching bay!"

    Okay, okay. More seriously, I was kinda disappointed that we do not get to see Sara launching normally. It is one of my favourite sequences in this series.
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  • Lavinia did not die. I guess her love for Sara was not strong enough.
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  • When I saw that Sara had exited out of sub-light space more than a hundred years later, I thought she would be all alone. It made me a little sad, then they suddenly had Lotti appear with everybody else( looking none the older too).

    This... sudden happy ending felt a little cop-out-pish, but ah, who cares.
Cheers.
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Old 2007-02-25, 05:27   Link #1092
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[*]When I saw that Sara had exited out of sub-light space more than a hundred years later, I thought she would be all alone. It made me a little sad, then they suddenly had Lotti appear with everybody else( looking none the older too).
Hu? I thought it was because the rest went into sub-light after her....
they didnt?
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Old 2007-02-25, 05:32   Link #1093
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Hu? I thought it was because the rest went into sub-light after her....
they didnt?
Well, that would require them to know when Sara exited out of sub-light space. Jessie's hairstyle changed too, so that implies that they only went after her, after some time.

I could ramble on and on about how it is a little too contrived that their timing is so perfect, but as I said, ah, who cares.

Narf.
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Old 2007-02-25, 11:33   Link #1094
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The ending was nice,not great,but nice.

Yes,we still don't know who's winning the war,but I think the anime wasn't about the war,it was about the conflict between Sara and Ralph.

I found very original that the ending of the series leads to the ending sequence.Now it all makes sense as it is a metaphor of Sara's whole adventure.You see her walking alone (She lost all her former Strain trainee friends),then she gets join by girl Emily (she finds doll Emily) and finally in the last episode she gets to rejoin everyone.

And yeah,Dikkon sure can take a beating without flinching.They should have sent him against Ralph,even crippled and wounded he seemed fine.
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Old 2007-02-25, 12:17   Link #1095
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[*]I laughed when a door sealed a soldier off, leaving him to be consumed by an incoming fireball( Ep12, 05:58 onwards).
.[*]Lavinia did not die. I guess her love for Sara was not strong enough.
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thankgod someone else found that part funny or i might have needed to see a specialist such great tasteful comedy for such a stressful situation ^__^

and lol yea...lavi nearly kicked the bucket but was saved again...if i was her i would have charged in head first to prove my love
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Old 2007-02-25, 19:04   Link #1096
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thankgod someone else found that part funny or i might have needed to see a specialist such great tasteful comedy for such a stressful situation ^__^
LOL i found that funny too.
it was like:

"Fireball coming! flee! Almost! Mad-"

*firedoor slams down*

"-e it! GRRAAGGHH BUURRNNINGBBQSAAUCEWTFNNOooooOOOO!"

lolol.

PWNED!

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Old 2007-02-25, 22:25   Link #1097
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Another series down the hatch. I would say i really enjoied this one. The ending was quite nice since we got to see the sain brotherly side of ralph befor he went to the next level of life.

Also there is a nice message in there for the viewers. Overall 9/10.

Oh and on a last note if you havent already got the OST i suggest you do, some of the tracks are quite nice, some i dont think were even in the anime.
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Old 2007-02-28, 19:49   Link #1098
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Another good anime serie consumed!

If i were to give this anime a rating, it would be around 7 to 8 out of 10. The overall story was good, though i have to admit, the oni-chan complex isn't my cup of tea. Worth watching if you want some tragic heroine sci-fi action.

Animation wise, personally i like the mecha CG, though the hexagon shaped enemies feels like a cop out on design but the Strain mecha design looks good especially in combat. Character design is pretty typical, nothing exotic or special. Although, i do wish some of the characters didnt look so moe (the lil kid pilot/mechanic kinda detracts the overall feel of anime).

Music was good and apopriate, especially during combats in the anime.

Other than that episode 7, most of em are pretty good and kept the story moving along. While the ending feels a bit awkward (i didnt expect the whole crew to trust Sara so quickly after discovering her true identity), it does close the story pretty well ( of course, there's always some stuff that remained unanswered but nothing that left you confused/unsatisfied)
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Old 2007-02-28, 21:19   Link #1099
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Ayako Kawasumi's, voice for Sara Werec, next character voice will be the Hime from Princess Resurrection.
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Old 2007-03-04, 04:05   Link #1100
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Just finished watching the series myself, and I dunno I give it a 7/10 I'd say. I really WANTED to like it more, but...

Kickers for me: Ep7 with that blatant fanservice for seemingly no reason compared to the rest of the series. Even at 13 episodes it felt like the plot was stretched extremely thin for what they actually did with it IMHO. And especially towards the end there they start pausing the battle for seemingly no reason. Ralph could have easily destroyed the entire ship after pulling out of the Libertad, or ripped open that bulkhead that closed between them. Then he just sits there having tea while Sara has her Strain repaired?

Then you have the very end sequence where Sara goes over 100 years into the future, then suddenly a shuttle with all her friends comes down to pick her up? They looked mostly the same, so one could assume not more than 1 year or so had passed. I find it hard to imagine that all of them would that easily throw away everyone else they had ever known just to go pick up Sara -- because that far into the future everyone would be dead. That has to be one of the most heartwrenching things about light-speed travel is the time-differential.

I liked the music, and the mecha designs were fairly unique and well animated. It also gets some major kudos for not sparing the characters lives for dramatic effect. He must taken lessons from Kill-em-all Tomino
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