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Old 2007-09-20, 22:51   Link #2301
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The day that all those things happen is the same day we'll see Front Mission 5, Super Robot Wars Alpha 3 and Namco x Capcom released stateside.....which I hope would be soon, but I don't count on it for two reasons, one the cross licensing rights involved in getting all the rights to manufacture the products with all the proper and official content intact (we're almost talking Bandai or nobody here) and two the probability that licensing costs will exceed projected profits.
I would disagree here. They have licensed Haruhi (which arguably is more popular than LS and should cost more in licensing fees) in anime format and plenty of associated figures and such. Just look at Rightstuf and you see figures, wall scrolls, and t-shirts. I expect it to be licensed in anime format with some associated merchandise at the least.
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Old 2007-09-20, 23:22   Link #2302
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I would disagree here. They have licensed Haruhi (which arguably is more popular than LS and should cost more in licensing fees) in anime format and plenty of associated figures and such. Just look at Rightstuf and you see figures, wall scrolls, and t-shirts. I expect it to be licensed in anime format with some associated merchandise at the least.
But Haruhi wasn't clogged with references. Lucky*Star, on the other hand, is.

I have no doubt that L*S would in fact be licensed, but I have even less doubt that it will be inevitably screwed up. First of all, pulling off an English voice acting (and script, nonetheless) for Konata is simply ridiculous. Hirano Aya pulling that off is a miracle in itself, and the anime localization industry so far really lacked such miracles.

The only American release I'll respect for L*S would be entirely subbed, with a Japanese culture guide at least as thick as AVPlaya's attached.

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Old 2007-09-21, 00:09   Link #2303
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I have no doubt that L*S would in fact be referenced, but I have even less doubt that it will be inevitably screwed up. First of all, pulling off an English voice acting (and script, nonetheless) for Konata is simply ridiculous. Hirano Aya pulling that off is a miracle in itself, and the anime localization industry so far really lacked such miracles.

The only American release I'll respect for L*S would be entirely subbed, with a Japanese culture guide at least as thick as AVPlaya's attached.
Well, it's not as if this would be the first time someone localized a "reference-clogged" anime; Lucky Star is definitely a unique show, but it's not so unique in that sense. And the nice thing about dubs is that you can always turn them off (back to Japanese audio) if they suck. So I guess I'm not so worried -- whoever Kadokawa works with to release this show will definitely do a good job.

(And well... I think it's perfectly fine to watch this show without a "thick culutre guide". I'm still waiting to get mine to appreciate the fansubs, in any case...)
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Old 2007-09-21, 09:29   Link #2304
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But Haruhi wasn't clogged with references. Lucky*Star, on the other hand, is.

I have no doubt that L*S would in fact be referenced, but I have even less doubt that it will be inevitably screwed up. First of all, pulling off an English voice acting (and script, nonetheless) for Konata is simply ridiculous. Hirano Aya pulling that off is a miracle in itself, and the anime localization industry so far really lacked such miracles.

The only American release I'll respect for L*S would be entirely subbed, with a Japanese culture guide at least as thick as AVPlaya's attached.
I have the Excel Saga DVDs, and the references it makes are even more obscure then LS and the dub was fine. And the great thing about the Excel Saga DVDs is they have a feature that turns on reference notes that pop up on the screen in little bubbles explaining references and the millions of Excel's puns. Anything is possible if it will sell enough copies ;x Plus the fact that it's hard to dub won't stop them if there is enough money to be made, people will just watch it subbed.
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Old 2007-09-21, 10:58   Link #2305
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Paniponi Dash is another example of "blackhole dense" references, they used a similar method of letting the viewer "choose their level of footnote pain".
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Old 2007-09-22, 03:59   Link #2306
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Um, I'm not sure where to post this, but it's a fandub created by some people and sure looks really real and convincing. The voices are pretty much how I expect them to be, so it's very good.

Sorry if it should be in another topic instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU82P...elated&search=
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Old 2007-09-22, 13:54   Link #2307
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Typically, you put these things in the "video" thread (even though it isn't musical), but it's not entirely off-topic here. This is just the garbage bin "first thread" that is usually created for every show before the mods decide whether or not it generates enough traffic to have its own forum.

edit: there's something horribly wrong with capitalism when a *FAN* effort beats the crap out of a commercial effort from "professionals". They should hire these girls to do the R1 release.

Very nice find.
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Old 2007-09-22, 18:34   Link #2308
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Hmmmm, I'll take their tone quality, but the overall acting quality is....well, what I expected from a "fandub" (or to a certain extent, the usual quality from Blue Water Studios in Calgary).

The one who did Tsukasa seemed to try a bit too hard to sound cute. The one who did Kagami certainly has potential. I'm ambient on Konota's voice though I have to say the guys sounded pretty awful.
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Old 2007-09-23, 00:23   Link #2309
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What I think of their voices:

Konata: Not quirky enough.
Kagami: Not sarcastic enough.
Tsukasa: Generic.
Miyuki: Hardly stood out.

It's probably better than most commerical works, but it's not perfect yet.
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Old 2007-09-23, 01:07   Link #2310
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Who are these girls?

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7806/quien02ec7.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5403/quienbk9.jpg

They apear in the episode 16 and 24.

why?

they are the protagonists of the some new Anime?

or it is a possible signal of the second season of Lucky Star?
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Old 2007-09-23, 02:27   Link #2311
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Those are the Miyakawa sisters, Hikage (younger, blue hair) and Hinata (elder, pink hair) respectively. They're characters from the Lucky Star games on the DS.

Apart from their appearances in the two episodes you mentioned, the Miyakawas can also be found in episode 12 by those with eagle eyes.
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Old 2007-09-24, 00:51   Link #2312
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Thank you very much.

now I can sleep. :P
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Old 2007-09-24, 14:20   Link #2313
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I am inclined to begin watching this series. Guerrand seems to have done all the recent ones, but they started at 17.

I am wondering for those who perhaps have observed multiple instances of translation what your personal recommendation for the group to go to would be.
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Old 2007-09-24, 16:17   Link #2314
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No one has done a complete series yet. Guerrand stepped in when the other groups got blindsided by RL for a few weeks.

Which group to prefer kind of depends on your tastes.
A.F.K. does really professional typesetting and karaoke, until last month they were really "on time every time". Their font is easy to read but the color choice blends into the background and their dialog placement sometimes interferes with the action because of Lucky*Star's penchant for putting talking heads in the bottom of the screen. Their translation style is to equivalence what a japanese might say with an equivalent american character might say. So some of the japanese wordplay is lost or converted... this makes it sound more "local" for american viewers but on occasion may introduce a joke or catchphrase that simply wasn't originally there.
Guerrand is more strict on the translation but they jumped when the other groups took a breather. They've also chosen not to do the karaoke. So far they're the only ones to have done the latter part of the series. Their font style is a bit perfunctory but that goes with speed subbing, though for speed subbing it is actually a very good job.
EnA (caveat: my personal favorite) strikes a good balance in their translation, I like the color coded subtitles, and I find their font the easiest to read. However, they've been MIA on the series since late summer.
Wind was the subber of choice for the "footnotes galore" paniponidash viewer, but they went MIA on the series after only a few episodes.

No one has actually announced they're dropping L*S that I know of.
So, at the moment, I have some EnA, some a.f.k. and some Guerrand.
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Old 2007-09-24, 17:05   Link #2315
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The fan dub looks fairly good. I had forgotten about this series, but Anime Weekend Atlanta 13 was this weekend. I came back to the series and was pleased with the ending. They showed a few episodes of Lucky Star along with a number of other anime shows. On Saturday, I was one of a group of people who did the Lucky Star dance while waiting for the judges to pick a winner in an anime video contest.

The anime makes good use of color. Except for the twins, each character in the opening dance has a different hair color.

On a personal note, my mother was named Patricia. Her hair was red, like mine. She died of breast cancer in 1994.
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Old 2007-09-30, 22:25   Link #2316
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I also posted this in the episode 24 thread:
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Lucky Star is not yet licensed for R1 (US/Canada). No company has announced it yet though it would seem likely it might follow the Suzumiya licensing route.
Funny you should mention that...

I've checked the whois on the Network Solutions website and just today (9/30) luckystaranime.com was registered... to some company in Malaysia I think, but that could easily be a front.

Make that what you will.



EDIT: and it's registered for one year...
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Old 2007-10-01, 01:12   Link #2317
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I hate to make sweeping... but 'malaysia' , regged for one year , ..... sounds fishy.
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Old 2007-10-01, 11:32   Link #2318
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someone is in chahoots with someone...i can smell it...

I'll wait for the licensed formally in an anime news network or company. btw genon has stopped licensing anime? One 'cause? Maybe...

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news...tion-by-friday
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Old 2007-10-01, 12:31   Link #2319
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Here's an idea I got for a Lucky Star/Sgt. Frog crossover movie:
The 4 LS girls head to a book store in a near by mall for a manga singing staring the staff behind popular Sgt. Frog manga, including Aki Hinata(the mom from the Sgt. Frog anime). What no one knows is that the real Keroro Platoon lives in her house. Aki's kids were there to help as well as Momoka Nishizawa and her butler Paul Moriyama (and the Keroro Platoon using their invisible barrier).
Momoka (with Tamama pretending to be a plush toy) runs into Tsukasa Hiiragi at the food court and become fast friends. Just as Momoka was letting Tsukasa hold Tamama(still acting like a plush toy), some goofy kidnappers(hired by an evil rival buisnessman of Momoka's father, looking to force the father to step down for the life of hos daughter) come by trying to figure out which of the two girls is Momoka. They don't know what she exactly looks like, all they were told was that she had short purple hair, is very shy, and usually holding this blue frog toy. The kidnappers end up kidnapping Tsukasa and Tamama by mistake and a silly but epic rescue mission begins.

The rest rights itself:
*Izumi nearly has a joy-induced seizure when she finds out the Keroro Platoon's real, temperately takes Tamama's place on the squad, and has a tearful moment with the platoon when it was time to go back to normal life (which turns into a I-don't-want-to-go fit).
*Kagami and Natsumi have a fight over what happend but become friends from their shared annoyance over the little green frog.
*Keroro figures out a way to use this kidnapping to further their invasion of earth and/or get him more gundam models(with Izumi eager to help), but the plan blows up in his face.
*Tsukasa learns to have courage from Tamama and Momoka and develops her own version of Momoka's alter ego, and both Tsukasa and Momoka's alter-egos kicks the main bad guy's ass.

What ya think?
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Old 2007-10-01, 13:17   Link #2320
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There's another couple of threads on the Geneon disaster in the General Anime section.
Its still not entirely clear whether ongoing productions will be completed.
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