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Old 2007-04-09, 16:46   Link #641
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Since it is a heavily dialogue-based show, I can only imagine that the subbers will likely contribute heavily to either its success or its failure. I'm very curious to see if they plan on slipping in lots of notes about Japanese culture to aid the delivery of the jokes. I'm thinking something like that would have a significant impact on how fans recieve this show. After all, Azumanga Daioh wouldn't have been that hilarious either without my understanding of all the cultural references and sayings.
It's probably a long shot, but I would be very happy if the groups working on this could actually leave all side notes at the end of each episode; Just like it was done for some of the releases of AIR and Kamichu!

I just dont like to keep pressing the pause button just so I can read the little notes that appear at the same time as the subs.
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Old 2007-04-09, 16:58   Link #642
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The OP is made of win and awesome! I can't stop watching it...

But yeah I think we need to wait a few episodes to see where it pans out. The humor seems more deadpan than AzuDai ... they need Tomo-chan I guess ;D Konata is like Kyon if he were a comedian heh.

I thought that there wasn't anything wrong with the animation. Yes it's obvious that this show doesn't have as large a budget as other KyoAni projects, but it also doesn't really need it. The art is clean, and matches the manga-ka's style, so I don't see a problem.

And yes: You couldn't pay me to translate this show ... going to be a big pain to convey all the puns and jokes to the viewers. Not to mention the sheer amount of dialogue is a lot. And god help us if they start using those dialects they used in the first 10 secs of the AVI lol...
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Old 2007-04-09, 17:31   Link #643
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Episode 1 got me interested.
I wouldn't call it hooked or anything like that but it was funny and the characters were quite interesting, certainly enough to make me keep watching this show.
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Old 2007-04-09, 17:34   Link #644
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Yeah...sorry 'bout that. I got this thing about typing fast and having alot of typo errors

I almost made them drug users XD XD XD

Here's something to make up for it. Please tell me if it's posted already. It's hard to back track XD

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I'm pretty sure you meant non-street legal narcotic substance in the vein of Loli's being like drugs the studios offer fans for a quick fix in return for "revenue enhancement" so to speak . Basically Loli's ARE drugs so the heroin versus heroine thing might be a bit of the subconcious speaking.

On another note somebody on ANN beat me to the part about the opening being a self-deprecating take on the Haruhi ending.

"In the opening sequence, the girls' dance number and the title screen itself are obviously mocking the ending sequence of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, another title animated by Kyoto Animation."
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Old 2007-04-09, 17:42   Link #645
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I'm pretty sure you meant non-street legal narcotic substance in the vein of Loli's being like drugs the studios offer fans for a quick fix in return for "revenue enhancement" so to speak . Basically Loli's ARE drugs so the heroin versus heroine thing might be a bit of the subconcious speaking.
Wait...since when were people honestly denying the fact that anime is a form of drug addiction?

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Old 2007-04-09, 19:49   Link #646
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Finally watched the first episode. ^^;

Now this is what I call a "faithful" adaptation. It's practically the first part of the first volume in animation.
The OP is generating quite a fuss among fans everywhere. Leave it to Kyoani to impress their viewers with the best animation used for the most pointless purposes.

Lucky Channel (inspired from the net radio program) cracked me up. I was happy to see Akira again after her column got fired on Comptiq last year, but that was unexpected.

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A: You've got to be f*ckin' kiddin' me!
A: (????) (sorry, these lines are beyond my ability to dicipher )
I got one line further
"You think I'm Cinderella or something?"
It's broken beyond that for me. ^^;

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And yes: You couldn't pay me to translate this show ... going to be a big pain to convey all the puns and jokes to the viewers. Not to mention the sheer amount of dialogue is a lot. And god help us if they start using those dialects they used in the first 10 secs of the AVI lol...
There aren't THAT many otaku references. Although it's true that the first few seconds of the OP already introduced something only 20+ year old otakus will recognize, and the ED song is something only 30+ year olds are familiar with.
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:19   Link #647
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On another note somebody on ANN beat me to the part about the opening being a self-deprecating take on the Haruhi ending.

"In the opening sequence, the s' dance number and the title screen itself are obviously mocking the ending sequence of the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, another title animated by Kyoto Animation."
Why is it self-depreciating? Just because they're by the same studio, it's not fair game for parodies?

Not trying to start an argument (I almost didn't post this for that very reason), but I don't see how it's "self-depreciating."
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:25   Link #648
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Now this is what I call a "faithful" adaptation. It's practically the first part of the first volume in animation.

There aren't THAT many otaku references. Although it's true that the first few seconds of the OP already introduced something only 20+ year old otakus will recognize, and the ED song is something only 30+ year olds are familiar with.
Faithful...In the opinion of you manga readers, is it a good thing, or a bad thing, in the long run, assuming Kyoto Animation will be taking no liberties to change the pacing, or add in some visual humor during dialogue-heavy scenes. Episode 1 itself was good in it's own way (( or maybe I have Kyodain/Ulutura bias as a tokusatsu fan )), but at the same time, it's the type of show some people find it better if it stayed a 4-koma.

First few seconds...Haruhi? And the ED song..., I feel SO old for even recognizing it. I miss my childhood and I'm just 18 damnit! I've never seen all of Kyodain, but I've sure seen at least 3 episode or so. What's next? Voice-Lugger?
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:28   Link #649
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Oh, man, I suck. I just ran 3 times in a row the OP again. This thing's friggin killing me.

Does anyone know when the OP Single is released? You just gotta love that synth bass.
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:28   Link #650
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I got one line further
"You think I'm Cinderella or something?"
It's broken beyond that for me. ^^;
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Is what I'm hearing.

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Was this extremely popular in the '70s or something (Like Urutora-Man was in the '80s)? Or is there something about the really whacky song?

Ah, nm It's another Tokusatsu thingy. I guess that might be just it then.

Sushi-Y, care to share what the first few seconds was about? フーんっが! って何?
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:36   Link #651
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Why is it self-depreciating? Just because they're by the same studio, it's not fair game for parodies?

Not trying to start an argument (I almost didn't post this for that very reason), but I don't see how it's "self-depreciating."
Actually, just to be anal, it is "self-deprecating" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-deprecation
By definition, making fun of or parodying oneself *is* self-deprecating. It isn't an insult to call it that.

Action actors like Schwarzenegger, Willis, Eastwood, and the late Jack Palance are on record as frequently poking at their own iconic imagery in a self-deprecatory way

I'd do this to Schoolhouse Rock but then you'd have to drive spikes in your ears.
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:44   Link #652
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Sushi-Y, care to share what the first few seconds was about? フーんっが! って何?
フーんっが (actually フンガ~!IMO) remembers me of Miu's infamous cry in the first episode of Ichigo Mashimaro's OVA series.

EDIT: I actually listened to it and it sounds like フーんが. So maybe there's no real connection at all.
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:54   Link #653
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Actually, just to be anal, it is "self-deprecating" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-deprecation
By definition, making fun of or parodying oneself *is* self-deprecating. It isn't an insult to call it that.

Action actors like Schwarzenegger, Willis, Eastwood, and the late Jack Palance are on record as frequently poking at their own iconic imagery in a self-deprecatory way

I'd do this to Schoolhouse Rock but then you'd have to drive spikes in your ears.
... Oh, okay. I gotcha. It hit my ears as Lucky*Star was being cheap for imitating something from the same studio.

Sorry for being an idiot
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Old 2007-04-09, 20:59   Link #654
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I think the urge to say "self-deprecating" comes as a response to all of whose who are saying that KyoAni is merely being exploitive.

So KyoAni did one dance routine well. They decide to do another one. What's wrong with that? Why is it necessarily exploitive?

It's like the people who are saying that the show (or Kanon or Haruhi before it) is exploitive by being a collection of "moe" elements. Not only is it incorrect, it's utterly missing the point.

I don't mind criticisms. To an extent, I don't mind people lamenting that it's not what they expected. It does bug me, however, when people prattle on and discuss more constructive conversation to criticize a show baselessly. Why not at least grip about a show's ACTUAL faults instead of contrived ones?!
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Old 2007-04-09, 21:30   Link #655
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I'd do this to Schoolhouse Rock but then you'd have to drive spikes in your ears.
Which song? I'm thinking the one about VERB being all about action... but I suppose you could do something with Conjunction Junction...

IOW, I'm willing to take that chance
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hahaha

Found the reference
It's from the old anime 怪物くん (remake ver). YouTube, but I like this version better
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Old 2007-04-09, 22:02   Link #657
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Found the reference
It's from the old anime 怪物くん (remake ver). YouTube, but I like this version better
OMG!!!

I wonder how the hell do the producers come up with these crazy references...
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Old 2007-04-09, 22:19   Link #658
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I think the urge to say "self-deprecating" comes as a response to all of whose who are saying that KyoAni is merely being exploitive.

So KyoAni did one dance routine well. They decide to do another one. What's wrong with that? Why is it necessarily exploitive?

It's like the people who are saying that the show (or Kanon or Haruhi before it) is exploitive by being a collection of "moe" elements. Not only is it incorrect, it's utterly missing the point.

I don't mind criticisms. To an extent, I don't mind people lamenting that it's not what they expected. It does bug me, however, when people prattle on and discuss more constructive conversation to criticize a show baselessly. Why not at least grip about a show's ACTUAL faults instead of contrived ones?!
I see lots of posts calling X, Y, or Z a "ripoff" when the poster is really either misusing the word (see homage, parody) or they fail to grasp the difference (vocabulary challenged). Given the self-referential nature of a comic strip about the anime/manga industry and the fans of it --- it seems only natural that KyoAni would thumb its nose at itself.

I'm restraining myself from liking or hating the show by amusing myself trying to translate the manga until someone is able to produce a sub since I don't want to download 2 or 3 times per episode.
I suspect I'm going to like it simply because I enjoy the type of droll and subtle humor this type of strip provides.
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Old 2007-04-09, 22:40   Link #659
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Two avatars I made.

I really, REALLY wanted to use the Miyuki avatar here on AS, but, sadly, I can't get it under the file size limit without chopping frames. I love it specifically because it's so fluid, and chopping it up would just hurt my soul. I may give it a shot later, but not now. Maybe with a cleaner source there will be less noise increasing the filesize (although I cleaned up most by hand, as it was).

Kotona's dance DOES reduce nicely, though, because it's so repetitive that it only took 10 frames.



It's amazing how they seem to move faster without the music.

I'll use the Kotona one for now, but I'm going to work hard to get the Miyuki avatar filesize down without losing that fluid motion.
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Two avatars I made.

I really, REALLY wanted to use the Miyuki avatar here on AS, but, sadly, I can't get it under the file size limit without chopping frames. I love it specifically because it's so fluid, and chopping it up would just hurt my soul. I may give it a shot later, but not now. Maybe with a cleaner source there will be less noise increasing the filesize (although I cleaned up most by hand, as it was).

Kotona's dance DOES reduce nicely, though, because it's so repetitive that it only took 10 frames.



It's amazing how they seem to move faster without the music.

I'll use the Kotona one for now, but I'm going to work hard to get the Miyuki avatar filesize down without losing that fluid motion.
LOL OMG, I love that Konata one! When I saw that I was thinking "WTF is she doing?!" I couldn't help but get amused and laugh out loud. Looks ridiculous, but funny too. And that Miyuki one definitely does have fluid motion, nice!
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