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Old 2007-05-12, 04:55   Link #1801
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Yeah, compared to her previous performance as Haruhi, her voice performance as Misa stuck to me as underwhelming. I couldn't kept myself from thinking "ahlala its Haruhi." ad infinitum (while Minori Chihara sounded nothing like Yuki Nagato when she voiced Sumire in Venus versus Virus or Ekitoku in Dragon Destiny).
Then came Lucky Star, I thought of Konata as Konata (sadly, I've not heard Konata by Ryo Hiroashi) not as Haruhi, and I somehow felt that Aya outdid Haruhi as Konata.

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Old 2007-05-12, 08:26   Link #1802
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Meh, I guess I'm different. There was enough of a difference in her Haruhi and Misa for me, as Misa sounds 100x more fangirlish than Haruhi. But then again I saw Itsudatte Mai Santa before Haruhi, in which I'd say the way she portrays both characters are almost the same. As such, I guess I can pick up the minor nuances between Haruhi/Misa more so than other people. >_>
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Old 2007-05-12, 09:05   Link #1803
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Stupid question but with the all the randomness dosent this fall under parody more than comedy or slice of life?
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Old 2007-05-12, 09:31   Link #1804
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Stupid question but with the all the randomness dosent this fall under parody more than comedy or slice of life?
Technically, parody is a subgenre of comedy so it wouldn't make too much difference. Like Pani Poni Dash, parodies can be fairly popular with otaku, but it also cuts down on their accessibility. It also doesn't necessarily mean that they're any good.

Like most comedy anime, Lucky Star has some element of parody and in-jokes, but I tend to see them as a negative point rather than a positive one.
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Old 2007-05-12, 11:17   Link #1805
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You know, about Hirano Aya-chan... I'll have to admit, the first few episodes when Amane Misa showed up in Death Note, I kept cringing because Aya-chan's performance as her sounded way too much like Haruhi. However, I just realized that up until now, I haven't really associated Konata with Aya-chan; all the way from Episodes 1 to 5, when Konata spoke, I only ever hear her as Konata....never as Aya-chan. That's a sign of a good seiyuu performance, right?
I think Aaya's doing an outstanding job here, but I really don't care if I can recognize a seiyuu's voice or not. I think it's possible to be highly recognizable and highly effective at the same time: Noto Mamiko comes to mind, as does Koyasu Takehito. It's all in whether the sound and the acting work for the character. Even Paku Romi sometimes sounds similar as Teresa in Claymore to what she did as Nana. In my mind, the only real benefits of being able to sound different are being able to get various roles and do dubbing of foreign shows. No matter what role she plays, Meryl Streep is still Meryl Streep, but she's still terrific.

But I agree 100% that Aaya sounds nothing like herself here. I can just about recognize the voice, but it's very different from anything else I've heard her do. However, I didn't think Misa sounded like Haruhi, myself. I didn't like the way Aaya played Misa, but I didn't really blame her, since I was sure she was playing it as the director wanted.

I keep saying this is in different threads, but listen to Aaya as Layla in NANA (e.g., ep35). Heart-breaking. I think that's her best performance, maybe equalled by this one. She's 19 and improving constantly. She just graduated from high school last year and is now devoting herself to her profession more seriously, I think.

On a different topic, I just noticed a little ascii symbol 2channel is using for this show, related to Konata:
(=ω=)
And a variation:
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Old 2007-05-12, 13:50   Link #1806
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I agree... Aya has really submerged herself into Kona (as have the other actresses). They score well in this regard. I guess I've just reached the stage where I don't go see a "Tom Cruise" movie or a "Will Smith" movie --- where the actor overwhelms the story. A better example for me is someone like Ian McKellen or DeNiro who does a pretty good job of becoming his character to the point I don't think "Ian" or "Robert" when either is onscreen.

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Old 2007-05-14, 00:00   Link #1807
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Once again comparing show business to sports, the people involved have to work as a team. Although teams depending on one player can win, it is usually not recommended.
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Old 2007-05-16, 02:41   Link #1808
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Indications of Lucky Star's popularity

It's hard to tell how popular a show is when TV ratings for it aren't available and no DVD has come out. But two little indications make me think this show is pretty popular right now, at least with a certain audience.

On 2channel at the moment, not only is the main LS thread the second-most-popular of this season after Nanoha StrikerS, but at this moment, of the 22 threads with the most recent posts, 11 are about Lucky Star. This is a bizarre situation, and many are anti- threads, but people don't make anti- threads about shows that aren't big topics of discussion.

A better indication is what is claimed in a post on 2channel to be the results of a poll in May NewType of most popular anime, not limited to current shows. Standing fourth after Code Geass, Suzumiya Haruhi and GSD is Lucky Star. (bracketed number is previous poll)

 1(1)Code Geass
 2(3)Suzumiya Haruhi
 3(2)Gundam SEED DESTINY
 4(-)Lucky Star
 5(5)Gundam SEED
 6(15)Evangelion
 7(9)Gintama
 8(-)DARKER THAN BLACK
 9(-)Hayate
 10(-)Toward Terra...
 11(-)Gurren Laggen
 12(-)Shakugan no Shana
 13(10)BLEACH
 14(-)Detective Conan
 15(-)Heroic Age
 16(16)Keroro Sogun
 17(-)Nodame Cantabile
 18(-)Saint Beast
 19(14)Fate/stay night
 20(-)Seto no Hanayome

As for popularity outside Japan, I just noticed how many 10's it has in its ANN ratings. And the number of posts here on AnimeSuki is fairly amazing: already four-fifths of Death Note, which had a six-month head start, and gaining fast.
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Old 2007-05-16, 03:45   Link #1809
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Old 2007-05-16, 04:11   Link #1810
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I don't know if I should be happy or sad for LS having a fan make up a worm for them. >_> Though I'm interested as to what its actually saying...

And I'm surprised at Lucky Star getting third place in the polls of new type as of right now. What I'm even more surprised is that Haruhi is still going strong despite it being a year old now and being a non-shounen show. O_O
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Old 2007-05-16, 04:22   Link #1811
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Heh. The irony of that anti-p2p worm is that, while telling you that illegal file sharing is bad, the use of that screen cap is itself a copyright violation.

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 9(-)Hayate
Now that I'm surprised to see. And they haven't even gotten to the crossplay episode.

I suppose the first test of Lucky Star's popularity will be the OP single. Perhaps if we knew how many pre-orders amazon has been getting.

Or just take a look at #6 on this list. (Also this)
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Old 2007-05-16, 07:00   Link #1812
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As with the SHnY OP, there is a movement to have so many preorders that the OP single opens at#1 on the Oricon chart when it comes out next Wednesday. I have no idea how realistic that is. I think the SHnY OP or ED opened at #5.
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Old 2007-05-16, 09:20   Link #1814
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Here is a video of it in action.
http://nicopon.jp/video/player/sm297254
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A better indication is what is claimed in a post on 2channel to be the results of a poll in May NewType of most popular anime, not limited to current shows. Standing fourth after Code Geass, Suzumiya Haruhi and GSD is Lucky Star. (bracketed number is previous poll)
I would think a better measure of the english speaking audience is seen a at the latest ANN poll.

However, I always consider those magazines polls to be bogus. The sample sizes are always extremely small and Newtype's always come out in favor of Kadokawa properties. Especially Gundam properties.
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Old 2007-05-16, 09:47   Link #1815
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If you go by television ratings, the list will be very, VERY different.

Thread in Question

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Old 2007-05-16, 12:47   Link #1816
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If you go by television ratings, the list will be very, VERY different. Thread in Question Cheers.
Yes, lol, that's why I said the poll represented the opinions of "a certain audience." Prime-time shows for kids totally dominate the TV rankings: Sazae-san, Doraemon, Detective Conan, etc. And in the late-night time-slots, shows aimed at adults and teen girls (NANA, Nodame Cantabile, Hataraki Man) do better than shows for otaku.

Unfortunately, very few ratings are available for the current season. The only new show in the top ten is Gegege no Kitarou, at #6. A show aimed at kids. There is very little info available about shows outside the top 10. With the very partial info I have, Blue Dragon, Lovely Complex, Toward Terra and Hayate are doing pretty well, but those are all daytime or primetime shows. The only two late-night shows that I know are doing "well" (over 2% of the audience) are Ookiku Furikabutte and Claymore, both of which deserve to do well, imo. I haven't seen any info about Lucky Star, but I expect it will not have huge ratings, even for a late-night show.
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As with the SHnY OP, there is a movement to have so many preorders that the OP single opens at#1 on the Oricon chart when it comes out next Wednesday. I have no idea how realistic that is. I think the SHnY OP or ED opened at #5.
Who's doing this? Is it the fans? If so I don't understand the point of organizing groups to blow as much money as possible on a preorder so that something they will see no profit from will debut in #1. Are these people so insecure that if their latest Kyoto Animation show isn't a smash success on its own they will stop at nothing to make it one in a "You scratched my back with Loli-Moe stuff, now I'll scratch yours by soliciting the internet manner". It just doesn't make any sense, what do they have to gain from it.

Perhaps Kyoto Animation's shows (or should I be saying Kadokawa's shows) aren't quite as popular as we are lead to believe, and that their popularity owes itself quite a bit to multiple factions manipulating the market. I frequently find it hard to believe that shows like Kanon, Haruhi and Lucky Star could have such widespread appeal as to make them so phenomenally successful all around. Sure they are good shows, but they are still very niche even within the market of anime.

So all these last few posts have served to show me is that there is potentially some massive rigging going on with the standings of media in Japan as well as manipulation of consumers through a variety of means, and that to no surprise it's Kadokawa's media that is at the centre of it all yet again.

Also whoever is making the virus', what do these idiots have to gain for themselves by doing this. If they are trying to increase the popularity of Lucky Star then I could think of no better way to do the opposite. Sometimes I'm not sure these so called anime fans are thinking clearly.

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Who's doing this? Is it the fans? If so I don't understand the point of organizing groups to blow as much money as possible on a preorder so that something they will see no profit from will debut in #1. Are these people so insecure that if their latest Kyoto Animation show isn't a smash success on its own they will stop at nothing to make it one in a "You scratched my back with Loli-Moe stuff, now I'll scratch yours by soliciting the internet manner". It just doesn't make any sense, what do they have to gain from it.

Perhaps Kyoto Animation's shows (or should I be saying Kadokawa's shows) aren't quite as popular as we are lead to believe, and that their popularity owes itself quite a bit to multiple factions manipulating the market. I frequently find it hard to believe that shows like Kanon, Haruhi and Lucky Star could have such widespread appeal as to make them so phenomenally successful all around. Sure they are good shows, but they are still very niche even within the market of anime.

So all these last few posts have served to show me is that there is potentially some massive rigging going on with the standings of media in Japan as well as manipulation of consumers through a variety of means, and that to no surprise it's Kadokawa's media that is at the centre of it all yet again.

Also whoever is making the virus', what do these idiots have to gain for themselves by doing this. If they are trying to increase the popularity of Lucky Star then I could think of no better way to do the opposite. Sometimes I'm not sure these so called anime fans are thinking clearly.
Money and fame are 2 reasons they could be backed by corporate in some fashion either with money or goods or they are just mindless trolls who think paying the man 3-6X the normal cost of a DVD/CD/item is the only way to be worthy of that item...

Ack I rated.... I 'll put it in spoilers so I wont mar the thread up much....


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