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Old 2007-05-29, 10:00   Link #1881
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lucky star is definitely a must-see..it ranks among my top favorites of the season along with seto no hanayome, sola, bokurano, hayate no gotoku, and darker than black

anyone who doesn't love konata, is out of their minds..she's the lynch pin of the series
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Old 2007-05-29, 17:54   Link #1882
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anyone who doesn't love konata, is out of their minds..she's the lynch pin of the series
Whereas Kagami is the lynch mob.
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Old 2007-05-30, 14:24   Link #1883
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About the whole Lucky Star popularity on the internet thing...

Are we talking mostly english speakers blogs and such?
This show has so much in-jokes that non-Japanese would have very hard time even "getting" it.

Hell, the first 3 seconds of the first episode was a joke referencing to the 80s Fujiko Fujio's Kaibutsu-kun anime intro (at which point I spewed my coffee out, even before the insane dancing OP ), and not a single person in AS forums seems to notice or mention it.
I'm sure there are tons of missed stuff like that.
I think by missing out on those jokes, the show is at somewhat of an disadvantage among some bloggers.

For example, many Simpsons jokes are completely lost to Japanese people, simply because some of the references they make are completely native to americans. Any jokes made about TV commercials, for example, would be hard to understand.
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Old 2007-05-30, 16:50   Link #1884
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About the whole Lucky Star popularity on the internet thing...

Are we talking mostly english speakers blogs and such?
This show has so much in-jokes that non-Japanese would have very hard time even "getting" it.

Hell, the first 3 seconds of the first episode was a joke referencing to the 80s Fujiko Fujio's Kaibutsu-kun anime intro (at which point I spewed my coffee out, even before the insane dancing OP ), and not a single person in AS forums seems to notice or mention it.
I'm sure there are tons of missed stuff like that.
I think by missing out on those jokes, the show is at somewhat of an disadvantage among some bloggers.

For example, many Simpsons jokes are completely lost to Japanese people, simply because some of the references they make are completely native to americans. Any jokes made about TV commercials, for example, would be hard to understand.
Yes. However not always, e.g. Timotei was understandable by anyone over a certain age, irrespective of culture (though I didn't realise it was age related until people started saying they didn't understand it, it had seemed obvious enough to me as a European: I hadn't noticed that Timotei was no longer considered a household name).
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Old 2007-05-30, 17:05   Link #1885
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Me live in America... me love Raki*Suta, ugh. Japanese culture requires some study -- it isn't impenetrable and many of the humorous aspects carry over nicely to British types of humor (which in turn is accessible to Americans, even the ones who the whole world is like their neighborhood).

I've gotten quite attached to the manga/4-koma so I'm watching to see how much they animate (the track sequence comes straight out of the manga, though the way they present it is another level of in-reference).

I used to help catalog Animaniacs references. People loved the show though they completely missed all the vaudeville, Marx Brothers, Bob Hope, 80s references... why? Because it was still funny. Monty Python relied heavily on class humor and topical British politics -- yet it is revered in the US because the themes are universal. Catching the sly references is just another level of enjoyment. Paniponi Dash is much more reference-laden (using all of japanese history and pop culture, movies, etc) yet people find the show hilarious.

Lucky Star reminds me of a sort of Peanuts/Calvin&Hobbes kind of piece with heavy japanese flavor and otaku stirred in. It is quite appealing on a human comedy level.

The food sketch in the first episode reminds me of one of the late comedian George Burns long-rambling-stories-with-mild-punchline.

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About the whole Lucky Star popularity on the internet thing...

Are we talking mostly english speakers blogs and such?
This show has so much in-jokes that non-Japanese would have very hard time even "getting" it.

Hell, the first 3 seconds of the first episode was a joke referencing to the 80s Fujiko Fujio's Kaibutsu-kun anime intro (at which point I spewed my coffee out, even before the insane dancing OP ), and not a single person in AS forums seems to notice or mention it.
I'm sure there are tons of missed stuff like that.
I think by missing out on those jokes, the show is at somewhat of an disadvantage among some bloggers.

For example, many Simpsons jokes are completely lost to Japanese people, simply because some of the references they make are completely native to americans. Any jokes made about TV commercials, for example, would be hard to understand.
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Old 2007-05-30, 19:42   Link #1886
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Has anyone noticed Kagami's motherly nature? Not just in relation to her younger sister, but to Konata as well. I would argue that Kagami is probably the closest thing Kona has to a mom. Behind her combative nature, she really does love her friends (especially Konata!)
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Old 2007-05-30, 20:13   Link #1887
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I used to help catalog Animaniacs references. People loved the show though they completely missed all the vaudeville, Marx Brothers, Bob Hope, 80s references... why? Because it was still funny.
So true. I used to watch it when I was too young to understand ANY of the references... yet it was my favorite cartoon. In the past couple of weeks I've been watching bits and pieces of Animaniacs on YouTube and have found that it's a completely different experience for me now that I'm older (I actually get references now, though there's no way I'm catching all of them).... and I love the 'toon even more now.

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Has anyone noticed Kagami's motherly nature? Not just in relation to her younger sister, but to Konata as well. I would argue that Kagami is probably the closest thing Kona has to a mom. Behind her combative nature, she really does love her friends (especially Konata!)
Yes, definitely... Kagami does love her friends even if she'll never admit it. Randomness: at this point I can't say that I think Kona misses having a mom though (as she seems so content with life... except during baseball season).
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Old 2007-05-30, 20:23   Link #1888
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Hell, the first 3 seconds of the first episode was a joke referencing to the 80s Fujiko Fujio's Kaibutsu-kun anime intro (at which point I spewed my coffee out, even before the insane dancing OP ), and not a single person in AS forums seems to notice or mention it.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1589

Too bad Kagami doesn't say "Urusai!"
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Old 2007-05-31, 01:43   Link #1889
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Are we talking mostly english speakers blogs and such?
This show has so much in-jokes that non-Japanese would have very hard time even "getting" it.
For that matter, how many Japanese viewers even catch all the references?

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Too bad Kagami doesn't say "Urusai!"
I think she's said it a few times. Or do you just mean in the intro?
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Old 2007-05-31, 02:12   Link #1890
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For that matter, how many Japanese viewers even catch all the references?
Well, stuff like the Top o Nerae! Gunbuster references, and the Star cruiser Yamato joke in ep4 are probably not gonna go well with everyone, especially the younger crowd.
And the heavily otaku-oriented jokes like the Kanon joke, and the Tsuyo-kiss kani fan are gonna be lost to most people in general.

However, aforementioned Kaibutsu-kun intro is too much of a "national icon" (like all the other Fujiko Fujio kids cartoon like Paaman, Ninja Hattori-kun, Doraemon, Kiteretsu, etc), that it's hard to believe any Japanese over the age of 20 to not be familiar with it.
The Crayon Shin-chan impersonation goes in this category as well.

Imagine an american who's never heard of the Loony Toons and Simpsons theme song. It's very unlikely.

Also, it's not just the parodies and references... Talk about common Japanese every-day life consists most of the show, very much like Azumanga daioh. While both LS and Azumanga are fairly popular among american fans for many reasons, a lot of the humor and atmosphere are lost to those not familiar with it.
I'm just mentioning these as contributing factor to certain reviews that aren't showing much interest in the show.
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Old 2007-05-31, 07:11   Link #1891
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does anyone know what the figurines in konata's room are?

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Well, stuff like the Top o Nerae! Gunbuster references, and the Star cruiser Yamato joke in ep4 are probably not gonna go well with everyone, especially the younger crowd.
when was there a gunbuster reference? me didnt notice...
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Old 2007-05-31, 09:16   Link #1892
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I think she's said it a few times. Or do you just mean in the intro?
In the intro. In the Kaibutsu-kun intro, after the banter, "Urasai!" is yelled out and then the theme song starts.
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Old 2007-05-31, 09:20   Link #1893
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does anyone know what the figurines in konata's room are?
It's been speculated that the one with the club is Kooh from the game PangYa.

http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...postcount=1833
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Old 2007-05-31, 12:21   Link #1894
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when was there a gunbuster reference? me didnt notice...
The "dandandandandan" drum sound that plays every time the Comptique festival is mentioned is the music lifted from Gunbuster's entrance in episode 4 of Top of Nerae!, and they also play the OP "Fly high!" of the show when Konata imagines the dentist with cute nurse and Exelion in the background.
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Old 2007-05-31, 12:56   Link #1895
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Anyone whose interested, if it hasn't been mentioned yet:
http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/backnumber/radio.html

Link to the Lucky Channel radio show. I couldn't get it working atm, but it may just be a problem on my end. Anyone else able to play them, or do they block anyone outside of Japan maybe?
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Old 2007-05-31, 14:49   Link #1896
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Anyone whose interested, if it hasn't been mentioned yet:
http://lantis-net.com/rakisuta/backnumber/radio.html

Link to the Lucky Channel radio show. I couldn't get it working atm, but it may just be a problem on my end. Anyone else able to play them, or do they block anyone outside of Japan maybe?
I doubt they block anyone outside of Japan... I mean, how many people overseas are even aware they have radio shows for popular anime? And how many people who are interested in the shows are able to understand what they're saying?

(Actually, I don't understand much, but I've been downloading segments of the Utawarerumono radio show... good stuff, good stuff. "MOU!!" )
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Old 2007-05-31, 16:55   Link #1897
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They're not blocking.. but they're using some damned DRM crap on the WMP side that breaks it because their license server isn't answering before it times out.

Perhaps the Real side works better. Stupid DRM crap ... makes no sense to DRM a radio show for the sake of Shoggoth.
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Old 2007-05-31, 22:03   Link #1898
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the realplayer version works fine for me (in the US)
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Old 2007-06-03, 15:12   Link #1899
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Started watching WinD's subs... IMO, they're well worth the wait. I like the style of the subs and the color (they're nice and easy to read), and I really like that they tuck translation notes neatly at the top without being over-excessive about them. They don't grab too much attention or distract from the actual episode itself... I also like that they're not translating words that don't *really* translate, like "gochisousama", for example. It's obvious they do a ton of research, too.

My only real complaint is that the text is kind of floating far up from the bottom... it's not a problem during Lucky Channel, but it is during parts such as this one. I know no matter what the sub group, with the way L*S is, subtitles are inevitably going to cover some key parts, but it feels like WinD's is a bit *too* high.

I'm also a little confused at the inconsistency of the translations when Kona is mumbling while playing her game during Golden Week... if I remember right, one group didn't translate it at all, another group mentioned her obtaining a loincloth, and now... there's no mention of her obtaining anything in WinD's version (I was really looking for the loincloth bit ).

What's got me squirming with delight right now is their note in episode 2 about Tsukasa's grade....

I've also been keeping track of the number of times we see each of the girls with something in their mouths... will get back to that once I'm caught up, keke.
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One of the problems with any subs on the bottom is that they end up covering Konata's head in some shots.
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