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Old 2006-09-21, 10:42   Link #21
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hey i got an idea. Maybe the reason he stabs his heart is because his heart isnt where it should be? Therefore he cant die from the wound.

Izumo and the other guy most likely went for his heart but since its not in the right spot they missed it. Thats why he may consider himself immortal because his vitals are in different places or maybe not there at all
You mean like Pirates of the Caribbean: The Dead Mans Chest?

Where the heart of the immortal Captain is hidden somewhere else...which is his only weakness.. something like that?
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Old 2006-09-21, 10:58   Link #22
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You mean like Pirates of the Caribbean: The Dead Mans Chest?

Where the heart of the immortal Captain is hidden somewhere else...which is his only weakness.. something like that?
uhh.... not that extreme but close enough. I ment it was some where else inside his body not in its usual spot.
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Old 2006-09-21, 10:58   Link #23
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HAH! I knew Shikamaru would be on the job. I was hoping there wouldn't be save the day back-ups, but whatever. At least Shika's plan can hopefully buy time.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:03   Link #24
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i think i'm going to take this week off the Manga, its really starting to build up, but i know next week will be the episode that i really want to read.
so when it comes out i'll read this weeks too.
that way i won't have to drag it on for another week. if feels like its been dragging for weeks, and i need a break.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:10   Link #25
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I don't think he can use it on several targets at once. To ensure victory, wouldn't it make more sense to attack just to draw as much blood as possible?
I'm not sure I understood correctly, are you saying that to ensure victory Hidan would have made all of them bleed to start with? Maybe but to ensure victory Hidan just had to stab his heart instead of his leg and Asuma would have been a goner.
Bad guys just can't think straight.

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Of course, this is all speculation, Hunter. But does it look like to you that maybe, if Sephiroth, Oro, and Kisame took on Hidan, do you think that holding someone hostage out of the three of them would cause any concern? They'd still try to kill Hidan not caring about the end result.
I don't think you got my point : yes of course they wouldn't care and attack Hidan without second thought... Which would end with the death of one of their own and Hidan still unkillable.

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Too bad, Hidan made a big mistake of allowing his prey living longer while he enjoys the break. Unfortunately, the cost of that will be decided in the next chapter. I guess, after his secret is solved, Kishi won't let the chance of killing Hidan go waste. But I wonder if Hidan will be killed before the enforcement arrives or after that. Hopefully just before they arrive, so that the enforcement can take care of Kakuzu afterwards, unless he flees from the scene as a tactical retreat.
I find extremely unlikely that an Akatsuki dies after only 3 chapters of fighting with Shika first moves. At best he will break the vodoo jutsu.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:14   Link #26
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I'm not sure I understood correctly, are you saying that to ensure victory Hidan would have made all of them bleed to start with? Maybe but to ensure victory Hidan just had to stab his heart instead of his leg and Asuma would have been a goner. Bad guys just can't think straight.
But the attack on the leg was perfect timing so Asuma would fall.
If he was stabbed in the chest he might still attack Hidan with his last strength.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:17   Link #27
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We've seen Hidan impaled by two massive Kunai by two Jounin at full strength, and through the vitals ... why would he care if Asuma manages to barely impale him?

Asuma was just saved by villain-gloating syndrome
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:25   Link #28
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I concur with Hunter bad guys really can't think straight. Asuma is clearly the biggest treat there he should've just 1) let Asuma cut his head off, then Asuma's head will drop as well (i think) or 2) stab himself in the heart to start with.

But like Sasori he decided to taunt and torture (and underestimate) his foes rather than go for the win. Without even without immortality I doubt that Hidan would have much trouble with that team if Asuma was killed outright.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:26   Link #29
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I'm not sure I understood correctly, are you saying that to ensure victory Hidan would have made all of them bleed to start with? Maybe but to ensure victory Hidan just had to stab his heart instead of his leg and Asuma would have been a goner.
Bad guys just can't think straight.
That's what I meant. I don't know, I just can't shake the feeling that Hidan was completely overrated all of a sudden. I'm starting think the real threat is Kakuzu.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:32   Link #30
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I'm starting think the real threat is Kakuzu.
That's what I told Rave since these two first appeared!
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:33   Link #31
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I find extremely unlikely that an Akatsuki dies after only 3 chapters of fighting with Shika first moves. At best he will break the vodoo jutsu.
There is always a first. Hidan would be a nice sacrifice in a way parallel to what he was planning to do to others.

I am hoping Shikamaru will succeed in both breaking the curse and this time successfully supporting Asuma - in two ways, finding how to prevent him doing his thing and helping others to achieve so.

Still, as you expect, if Kishi decides not to finish Hidan so early, then just before Hidan receives a ciritical damage, Kakuzu might be forced to enter the picture, and that seems to happen before the reinforcements come.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:35   Link #32
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We've seen Hidan impaled by two massive Kunai by two Jounin at full strength, and through the vitals ... why would he care if Asuma manages to barely impale him?
Because Asuma was using a wind blade that could have cut Hidan's head off.
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Old 2006-09-21, 11:52   Link #33
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i think Shikimaru's plan will end up failing and Asuma dies protecting him. Shikimaru's plan HAS TO FAIL or else we wont see a long battle and Hidan's character will be very short lived.... Kakuzu should kill them asap.
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Old 2006-09-21, 12:35   Link #34
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I think Hidan’s body isn’t human; it’s some kind life-size (possibly inorganic) doll. Kind of like how in real voodoo magic where some possession of the victim (usually a lock of hair) is attached a doll and then is punctured with pins to inflict pain. Hidan is some sort of soul attachment, like Oro or Al from Full Metal Alchemist.
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Old 2006-09-21, 12:59   Link #35
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i think it's set up for Kakuzu to kill Hidan once Shika exposes his weakness. that's why he tells him not to let his guard down or he'll be killed.

he already got impacient w/Hidan this chapter. he'' go beserk after his bounty is lost.
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Old 2006-09-21, 13:02   Link #36
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I just hope Akatsuki gets away right now....Naruto needs villains and there arent enough villains so far...

About the comments that he should've let himself get stabbed...you know it hurts and it probably hurts less if he stabs himself...

But honestly...i dont even think that Kakuzu knows Hidan's weakness...otherwise Hidan would've already been killed by Kakuzu...
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Old 2006-09-21, 13:18   Link #37
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Even if Kakuzu knew his weakness, I dont think that he would be in his minds full power to exploit that weakness when going rampage like that. I'm pretty sure he knows how to get rid of Hidan if it really was needed.

Anyway, the group will probably just figure out how to kill Hidan when Kakuzu jumps in to the picture. But Kakuzu will be stopped by the Backup arriving from Konoha, possibly someone with a higher bounty then Asuma to make Kakuzu forget about Hidan and only go after the new money.

However I think we'll see Akatsuki pulling back for some reason, it's not the time for any of them dying yet IMO.
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Old 2006-09-21, 13:20   Link #38
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I just hope Akatsuki gets away right now....Naruto needs villains and there arent enough villains so far...

About the comments that he should've let himself get stabbed...you know it hurts and it probably hurts less if he stabs himself...

But honestly...i dont even think that Kakuzu knows Hidan's weakness...otherwise Hidan would've already been killed by Kakuzu...

I doubt Kakuzu would go as far as killing Hidan when there are other people pissing him off more- namely the Konoha shinobis. Kakuzu must be really dumb to get talked into killing Hidan. Maybe once kakuzu finds out about Hidan's secret he could kill him afterwards. These 2 akatsuki members better not fall so quick...
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Old 2006-09-21, 13:31   Link #39
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I doubt Kakuzu would go as far as killing Hidan when there are other people pissing him off more- namely the Konoha shinobis. Kakuzu must be really dumb to get talked into killing Hidan. Maybe once kakuzu finds out about Hidan's secret he could kill him afterwards. These 2 akatsuki members better not fall so quick...
Kakuzu isn't pissed at Asuma's team, he's quite calm. He'll be pissed if Hidan doesn't get the bounty for him. We know he's killed his partners before but not Hidan because he doesn't know how. It's been hinted that he tried to kill him before. Once Shika shows him how he'll sneak attack Hidan.

Once he's mad he kills everyone not just those who piss him off.
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Old 2006-09-21, 13:44   Link #40
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I'm hoping that the two Akatsuki will not die and rather that Shika's plan will fail instead.

Doesn't seem to be much excitement if everything goes so "predictable"

...Well, if you want to call it predictability.
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