Could Naruto learn Hakkeshou kaiten?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dauthi

Do you understand what you are trying to prove? That picture in no way proves that his jyuuken is a bloodline limit. It points out he has mastered jyuuken, and taught himself a technique that is carefully passed down through generations.

Through training juunin's can exert chakra through their hands, genins can exert it through their feet. Now, using logic, with extensive training you could do this with your whole body (KAITEN).

I would suggest you reread the chapter in which byakugen is introduced, it states that this eye ability is their bloodline, period. They built this style of fighting to put their bloodline to use in a battle field, because seeing through things, and 360 degrees isnt extremely useful in a fight by itself

No point arguing with you. you can choose to believe it or not that Kaiten is a bloodline jutsu. so tehn we'll wait for Hunter with his Data book.

i can't be bothered to argue with you

[Dauthi]

Originally Posted by Yellow Flash

It says only Hyuuga can learn this move, please don't be so dense.

Because it is handed down personally by the hyuuga's, that is why they are astonished neji can use the jutsu. He TAUGHT HIMSELF. Meaning others could do the same, if they were as dedicated as he. You are being dense by misunderstanding this piece of manga rich posted.

No. Kaiten release chakra from all tenketsu, the training you mentioned is different.
It only roughly gather the chakra in the hands or feet, not precisely in tenketsu.

This is crap you are making up. How can you say when a juunin is releasing chakra from his hands, it isn't precisely through the tenketsu. Again, bs you made up.

The bloodline is their whole being, including obviously the blood.
This is why Kakashi can't use Sharingan as well as Itachi, which prove you wrong.

This has nothing to do with chakra manipulation. If a random person had a hyuuga eye transplanted, you could say they couldnt see completely 360 degrees, or not as far as a normal hyuuga, becase that is their bloodline abilities.

Again you seem to be oblivious to the argument.

Originally Posted by Rich

No point arguing with you. you can choose to believe it or not that Kaiten is a bloodline jutsu. so tehn we'll wait for Hunter with his Data book.

i can't be bothered to argue with you

Im sorry your argument failed. All you have to do is prove why releasing chakra from different parts of your body is only available through Byakugen, in any way.

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by Dauthi

Because it is handed down personally by the hyuuga's, that is why they are astonished neji can use the jutsu. He TAUGHT HIMSELF. Meaning others could do the same, if they were as dedicated as he.

Neji is a Hyuuga. Hiashi was astonished because Kaiten is only meant for the Main House!

No, others could not do the same. The Hyuuga blood is a requirement!

Hence the statement "to be able to learn Kaiten on his own...to be this good".
Neji has inherited very thick Hyuuga blood, that's why he can do all those things!

Someone who is not from that clan couldn't possibly master the Jyuuken.

This is crap you are making up. How can you say when a juunin is releasing chakra from his hands, it isn't precisely through the tenketsu. Again, bs you made up.

It's the truth.

[Dark`]

Originally Posted by Yellow Flash

Neji is a Hyuuga. Hiashi was astonished because Kaiten is only meant for the Main House!

No, others could not do the same. The Hyuuga blood is a requirement!

Hence the statement "to be able to learn Kaiten on his own...to be this good".
Neji has inherited very thick Hyuuga blood, that's why he can do all those things!

Someone who is not from that clan couldn't possibly master the Jyuuken.



It's the truth.

Not necessarily, there's a certain amount of ambiguity in the statement. Again, the statement that it is a special technique passed down to the heirs of the Hyuuga house can mean that it is a bloodline limit. But at the same time, the phrase 'bloodline limit' was never mentioned, unlike when the Byakugan, Sharingan and Haku's Ice Mirrors were revealed. So the possibility that it is merely a technique that is difficult to master is not out of the realm of possibility.

There is also the fact that Ten Ten mentioned that Neji mastered the Gentle Fist (Jyuuken) style of fighting, which allows him to release chakra from the entire body. The Jyuuken style of combat does lend itself specifically to the Hyuuga house because, well, it was basically created to work alongside the strength of the Byakugan, that much I can't refute. But again, nowhere does it say that it is impossible for someone who did not master Jyuuken to release chakra from their entire body, nor was it ever stated that Jyuuken can only be mastered by the Hyuuga family, only that it was the Hyuuga family's specialty (with good reason). So while someone not from the Hyuuga house may not be able to recreate Kaiten perfectly, that does not mean they cannot create a technique similar to it.

Either way, that is to say believing Kaiten to be a bloodline limit or not, is pure speculation at this point. There isn't enough information given to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Kaiten cannot be reproduced by a non-Hyuuga shinobi, at least to my knowledge. There very well could be in some kind of data book, or Kishimoto could come out in an interview or a future chapter of the manga and state that Kaiten is indeed a bloodline limit...but until then I'm inclined to believe that while not probable, someone else replicating Kaiten or something similar can be plausible.

[Dauthi]

To further my case

Spoiler:

Again, gai says this is a special taijutsu that has been passed down to the heirs. No mention of it being a bloodline jutsu, like is specifically mentioned when it is a bloodline jutsu.

Spoiler:

Here they explain they are simply applying chakra through their hands. Naruto/Sakura understand this, but what is bizarre is that their eyes can see inside the human body. Again, any nin can release chakra from his hands. There is no explaination of "hyuuga can release it more precisely because they can see their own tenketsu!!". Chakra, through the hands, period.

I have another question to pose as well. How can neji use jyuuken before byakugen, his bloodline ability, is activated. This further disproves your theory.

Now before either person doubting my case replies, remember, to defeat my logic you must prove why emitting chakra through their body is different than everyone else's. Yes they can release it all over their body, but its becaused they mastered this form of chakra manipulation, thats all.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dauthi

To further my case

Spoiler:

Again, gai says this is a special taijutsu that has been passed down to the heirs. No mention of it being a bloodline jutsu, like is specifically mentioned when it is a bloodline jutsu.

Spoiler:

Here they explain they are simply applying chakra through their hands. Naruto/Sakura understand this, but what is bizarre is that their eyes can see inside the human body. Again, any nin can release chakra from his hands. There is no explaination of "hyuuga can release it more precisely because they can see their own tenketsu!!". Chakra, through the hands, period.

I have another question to pose as well. How can neji use jyuuken before byakugen, his bloodline ability, is activated. This further disproves your theory.

lol note that my manga chapter is later than yours of corz kishi develops it more and more. and also about your previous post. i got that the Kaiten is Bloodline jutsu from kishi himself because he states it in his manga. but you in the otherhand say that Kaiten can be learned and isnot a bloodline jutsu which is an obvious assumption to bring up another interesting topic which is pointless. i don't understand how my argument failed but you changed it quite abit with your imagination. just because other jounin ninjas can use jyuuken doesn't mean they can do kaiten.

also stop trying to be difficult. what kishi is made, you can't change the fact. what is done is done. car wheels are circular, not triangular.

[Dauthi]

Originally Posted by Rich

lol note that my manga chapter is later than yours of corz kishi develops it more and more. and also about your previous post. i got that the Kaiten is Bloodline jutsu from kishi himself because he states it in his manga. but you in the otherhand say that Kaiten can be learned and isnot a bloodline jutsu which is an obvious assumption to bring up another interesting topic which is pointless. i don't understand how my argument failed but you changed it quite abit with your imagination. just because other jounin ninjas can use jyuuken doesn't mean they can do kaiten.

also stop trying to be difficult. what kishi is made, you can't change the fact. what is done is done. car wheels are circular, not triangular.

Your logic is rediculous. So if other ninjas are able to release chakra from their hands and feet when they train it, why cant they do it everywhere else if they trained it. that is all kaiten is. Or am i wrong, and byakugen gives them exceptional spinning skills too!!

Please tell me what is so special about kaiten that it is a bloodline. You expel chakra from your body, and spin....

Compared to using ice, or manipulating their own bones or seeing through objects, and in 360 degrees like no other ninja can duplicate, this is not a bloodline jutsu, since other ninja's can duplicate its effects.

Compare it to sharingan, what byakugen might have derived from. It is activated, and its uses directly corrispond with the eyes, since it is an activated eye bloodline. Why wouldnt byakugen be the same in that respective manner. You activate it, and thus, have its effects.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dauthi

Your logic is rediculous. So if other ninjas are able to release chakra from their hands and feet when they train it, why cant they do it everywhere else if they trained it. that is all kaiten is. Or am i wrong, and byakugen gives them exceptional spinning skills too!!

Please tell me what is so special about kaiten that it is a bloodline. You expel chakra from your body, and spin....

Compared to using ice, or manipulating their own bones or seeing through objects, and in 360 degrees like no other ninja can duplicate, this is not a bloodline jutsu, since other ninja's can duplicate its effects.

Byakugan doesn't make kaiten exceptional spining skills. Byakugan only only enables the user to see 360 degrees...

if you don't like the fact that kaiten is hyuuga's bloodline jutsu, just blame it on kishi. you can't just simply just declare the kaiten is not a hyuuga jutsu.

[Dauthi]

Originally Posted by Rich

Byakugan doesn't make kaiten exceptional spining skills. Byakugan only only enables the user to see 360 degrees...

if you don't like the fact that kaiten is hyuuga's bloodline jutsu, just blame it on kishi. you can't just simply just declare the kaiten is not a hyuuga jutsu.

He never said that. If you think he did find his direct quote and post it.

I didnt declare it, i have stated multiple logical reasons it is not. You have done nothing but sit here and say "no its not". Quite the argument.

A bloodline cannot be copied at all. Kaiten can be, and we have actually seen it duplicated in a smaller aspect. It is not a bloodline jutsu.

Now if you have some kind of logic to defy my argument, do so, if not, post kishi's statement saying this. I honestly dont want to hear "no its not" rephrased again.

At least yellow flash tried to debate it, stating something about "being able to release chakra out of all their tenketsu better than others". While it is hardly proveable or logical, it did actually reply to my question.

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by Dauthi

Indeed. And if you have any proof that their byakugen bloodline extends beyond their enhanced visual abilities, i would like to see it.

Like Kakashi saying that the Byakugan is one of the bloodlines present in the Hyuga clan?
Anyway I got to leave right now, I will answer your post more thoroughly tomorow. Just know that the Data Book does state the Kaiten as a jutsu requiring a bloodline.

Originally Posted by raikage

I'm going to agree with this -- for the most part.
(That's all I'm going to say about this unless anyone actually wants to read an essay-length reasoning.)

I do.

[sayde]

^^*raises hand*
I would'nt mind as well if you've got the time to type that much.

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by Dark`

Not necessarily, there's a certain amount of ambiguity in the statement. Again, the statement that it is a special technique passed down to the heirs of the Hyuuga house can mean that it is a bloodline limit. But at the same time, the phrase 'bloodline limit' was never mentioned, unlike when the Byakugan, Sharingan and Haku's Ice Mirrors were revealed. So the possibility that it is merely a technique that is difficult to master is not out of the realm of possibility.

Yes, but during the preliminary exam Gai said the Hyuuga use the gentle fist taijutsu style, it is their unique way to fight, it was passed down in their generation because it's in their nature, it does correlate to their doujutsu ability, the Byakugan, to develop a taijutsu style combined with extreme chakra control which is capable of doing serious damage to the opponent's inner organs and even close the tenketsu. I don't understand why you would think someone else could master this style, because it is unique inasmuch as we have never seen someone use it other than Hyuuga. Consider Kimimaro's taijutsu, the flower dances he mastered, they are directly connected to their bloodline limit, the ability to use their bones as sharp weapons, as the fifth dance, the sawarabi no mai proved. Surely you wouldn't say others could master this taijutsu unless they are from the Kaguya clan.

There is also the fact that Ten Ten mentioned that Neji mastered the Gentle Fist (Jyuuken) style of fighting, which allows him to release chakra from the entire body. The Jyuuken style of combat does lend itself specifically to the Hyuuga house because, well, it was basically created to work alongside the strength of the Byakugan, that much I can't refute. But again, nowhere does it say that it is impossible for someone who did not master Jyuuken to release chakra from their entire body, nor was it ever stated that Jyuuken can only be mastered by the Hyuuga family, only that it was the Hyuuga family's specialty (with good reason). So while someone not from the Hyuuga house may not be able to recreate Kaiten perfectly, that does not mean they cannot create a technique similar to it. Either way, that is to say believing Kaiten to be a bloodline limit or not, is pure speculation at this point. There isn't enough information given to prove, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Kaiten cannot be reproduced by a non-Hyuuga shinobi, at least to my knowledge. There very well could be in some kind of data book, or Kishimoto could come out in an interview or a future chapter of the manga and state that Kaiten is indeed a bloodline limit...but until then I'm inclined to believe that while not probable, someone else replicating Kaiten or something similar can be plausible.

It's possible to release chakra from the entire body, of course. Naruto can, with the sheer amount of Kyuubi chakra unleashed he is able to create a shield around his body to protect him, but he doesn't use the specific technique known as Kaiten and activate all his tenketsu, that is the ability unique to the Hyuuga clan. It is the same thing about your example that a Jounin can gather chakra in his hands or feet, but it is different from releasing pinpoint chakra through tenketsu, otherwise Naruto would have been able to cut through Kidoumaru's web, but he couldn't.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dauthi

He never said that. If you think he did find his direct quote and post it. A bloodline cannot be copied at all. Kaiten can be, and we have actually seen it duplicated in a smaller aspect. It is not a bloodline jutsu.

sigh you're really difficult.... that manga page i posted up earlier said that Kaiten is Hyuuga's Bloodline jutsu and Kishi wrote it. it's basically a direct statement from him afterall he's the author of "naruto". And Kaiten cannot be copied. the Kaiten you thought you saw is not kaiten, its chakra produced from the kyuubi. don't ask me about the kyuubi because i don't know it myself.

[Dauthi]

Originally Posted by Hunter

Like Kakashi saying that the Byakugan is one of the bloodlines present in the Hyuga clan?
Anyway I got to leave right now, I will answer your post more thoroughly tomorow. Just know that the Data Book does state the Kaiten as a jutsu requiring a bloodline.


I do.

I would like to see this in the data book, i couldnt find the data book containing specific info on him.

Again though, the main problem is a bloodline shouldn't be duplicated, even to a small extent. Thinking logically, the kaiten can be duplicated. It could never be used as well as a hyuuga could use it, since they can see all around them at all times, and know when they must use this technique.

We will never see another person master techniques like these without the byakugan simply because it would be stupid and pointless. Without a byakugen learning jyuuken is pointless, therefor they are connected, but indirectly. So in that manner you could say its a blood limit technique, since its full capabilities will never be met unless you have Byakugen.

But, jyuuken can be learned if taught by a hyuuga, to anyone else (only some aspects however, you couldnt teach them where the tenketsu are since they outright will never be able to see them). Kaiten could theoretically copied by another ninja since it is just chakra being expelled from the body and spinning, just never used effectively. But none the less, using kaiten by another ninja, possible or impossible, was the question here.

[Dauthi]

Originally Posted by Rich

sigh you're really difficult.... that manga page i posted up earlier said that Kaiten is Hyuuga's Bloodline jutsu and Kishi wrote it. it's basically a direct statement from him afterall he's the author of "naruto". And Kaiten cannot be copied. the Kaiten you thought you saw is not kaiten, its chakra produced from the kyuubi. don't ask me about the kyuubi because i don't know it myself.

Here is the exact words:

But with neji, who has mastered the gentle fist style, he can release chakra from the entire body, and knock away physical attacks just with that.

You could say it has power that surpasses Gaara's

Another... absolute defense!!

Father thats your..

Kaiten is the hyuuga main family's... basically its a special technique only passed down to the heirs of the Hyuga House.

To master it on his own... what a guy to be this good.


A special technique. Not even a hint of a bloodline technique. Its special because unlike basic jyuuken, this is not taught to the lower branch. Only those of high status.

That is why they are amazed he was able to learn it anyways.

Again, if it was a bloodline jutsu, why wouldnt they say it here, or countless other times? Why is it a bloodline jutsu when juunin's can also theoritcally release chakra from their bodies and simply spin.

[sayde]

geez Dauthi. I've gotta give you credit for defending this as long as you have. I'm completely on your side of this debate, but frankly, I don't have the energy to argue this long.

[Dark`]

Originally Posted by Yellow Flash

Yes, but during the preliminary exam Gai said the Hyuuga use the gentle fist taijutsu style, it is their unique way to fight, it was passed down in their generation because it's in their nature, it does correlate to their doujutsu ability, the Byakugan, to develop a taijutsu style combined with extreme chakra control which is capable of doing serious damage to the opponent's inner organs and even close the tenketsu. I don't understand why you would think someone else could master this style, because it is unique inasmuch as we have never seen someone use it other than Hyuuga. Consider Kimimaro's taijutsu, the flower dances he mastered, they are directly connected to their bloodline limit, the ability to use their bones as sharp weapons, as the fifth dance, the sawarabi no mai proved. Surely you wouldn't say others could master this taijutsu unless they are from the Kaguya clan.

The part I bolded I already stated in my post to a degree...not in quite as much detail, but the basic jist of it I believe I covered, so I don't see why you had to repeat that. As for why I, as you say, believe someone else can master Jyuuken, I never stated I believe that someone can for sure. I said it could be done, meaning it's within the realm of possibility (re: not impossible), I never said that everyone and their dog could learn how to do it. It's one thing for me to say that it can be possible for non-Hyuuga's to learn it, it's another to explicit state that other people can for sure master it.
As for the Taijutsu dance, just because it's a special technique developed to take advantage of Kimimaro's Kekkai Genkai does not mean that other people could develop something similar, but not exactly, like his dance. It's like saying not everyone can pull off something like Ura Renge, which requires opening the eight gates. Just because not everyone can perform the move does not make it a Kekkai Genkai. This isn't in reference to Kimimaro's Taijutsu dance, I'm going back to Kaiten.

It's possible to release chakra from the entire body, of course. Naruto can, with the sheer amount of Kyuubi chakra unleashed he is able to create a shield around his body to protect him, but he doesn't use the specific technique known as Kaiten and activate all his tenketsu, that is the ability unique to the Hyuuga clan. It is the same thing about your example that a Jounin can gather chakra in his hands or feet, but it is different from releasing pinpoint chakra through tenketsu, otherwise Naruto would have been able to cut through Kidoumaru's web, but he couldn't.

I never said Naruto ever duplicated Kaiten, I'm talking theoretically. In all honesty, I never once had Kyuubified Naruto in mind while making my post. The Hyuuga can release chakra throughout their whole body, presumably through the tenketsu, because of their extreme chakra control. I can argue that the degree of control they can exert over their chakra may not necessarily go hand-in-hand with their bloodline. What I am saying is that the Hyuuga's are undoubtedly the best at it, but just because they are the best at it does not mean someone else cannot duplicate the results not entirely, but to a lesser degree, thus creating a pseudo-Kaiten.

Again, I'm not trying to argue that other people can, for sure, be able to perform something similar to, but not exactly like, Kaiten. But I'm also not supporting the argument that only the Hyuuga can perform a move like that. I'm just stating my opinion...that with the evidence presented so far, it has yet to be proven to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that only the Hyuuga clan can perform a Kaiten-like move (meaning there is reasonable doubt in my mind).

I'm interested in the data book that Hunter has though.

[Dauthi]

Originally Posted by sayde

geez Dauthi. I've gotta give you credit for defending this as long as you have. I'm completely on your side of this debate, but frankly, I don't have the energy to argue this long.

ROFL. True though. It just all seems logical the way i have it. If it is true that kaiten is a bloodline jutsu i want to know why exactly, when all evidence points to it not being so.

If there is something im missing, id like to know. But ive researched as much as possible into the manga, and havn't found a clue dissaproving of my theory. It would also make the anime/manga itself kinda cooler.

I mean you have this clan, who's bloodline talent is to see 360 degrees, and see through things, as well as see tenketsu. So they research into it, and find ways to manipulate this bloodline of information, to be deadly incorporating this information. Its not just "hes born with this ability!". They found the best mode of combat for their bloodline, and trained it aggressively.

Originally Posted by Yellow Flash

Yes, but during the preliminary exam Gai said the Hyuuga use the gentle fist taijutsu style, it is their unique way to fight, it was passed down in their generation because it's in their nature, it does correlate to their doujutsu ability, the Byakugan, to develop a taijutsu style combined with extreme chakra control which is capable of doing serious damage to the opponent's inner organs and even close the tenketsu. I don't understand why you would think someone else could master this style, because it is unique inasmuch as we have never seen someone use it other than Hyuuga. Consider Kimimaro's taijutsu, the flower dances he mastered, they are directly connected to their bloodline limit, the ability to use their bones as sharp weapons, as the fifth dance, the sawarabi no mai proved. Surely you wouldn't say others could master this taijutsu unless they are from the Kaguya clan.



It's possible to release chakra from the entire body, of course. Naruto can, with the sheer amount of Kyuubi chakra unleashed he is able to create a shield around his body to protect him, but he doesn't use the specific technique known as Kaiten and activate all his tenketsu, that is the ability unique to the Hyuuga clan. It is the same thing about your example that a Jounin can gather chakra in his hands or feet, but it is different from releasing pinpoint chakra through tenketsu, otherwise Naruto would have been able to cut through Kidoumaru's web, but he couldn't.

Activate all your tenketsu. Meaning you can exert chakra through all your body parts. When naruto walks on water he exerts it from his feet into water to counterbalance himself right. Isn't there parts with him or other nins laying, or doing anything else but standing on the water. Wouldnt this imply they are exerting chakra from those body parts to counterbalance themselves anyways?

Knowing that other ninjas can train these abilities, you would think they could get as capable with this kind of chakra exertion as a hyuuga. Again, it would simply have no point, or value to them. A complete waste of time, without having the byakugen.

Also remember tenketsu are simply the opening's to which this chakra may be extracted. Everyone must do this, in order to do any jutsu. So if naruto is releasing this chakra as an explosion around his body, kyuubi is filling his chakra, then he is releasing it through his tenketsu, in a devastating explosion of chakra. Hyuuga have no affiliation with tenketsu except that they can see it

Originally Posted by Dark

I'm interested in the data book that Hunter has though.

Im also interested to see if its true. If it is, im hoping that there is an explaination, or a miswording. I will be pretty unhappy, unless it seems that they are relating kaiten to byakugen as an indirect bloodline ability. Anyone who doesnt have byakugen, wont bother learning kaiten, or training jyuuken, so in that manner its only theirs. *sigh*

[raikage]

I'm going to agree with this -- for the most part.
(That's all I'm going to say about this unless anyone actually wants to read an essay-length reasoning.)

Originally Posted by Hunter

I do.

Originally Posted by sayde

^^*raises hand*
I would'nt mind as well if you've got the time to type that much.

...Wonderful.

Firstly, what is Kaiten?
Kaiten is a technique in which a set amount of chakra is expelled simultaneously from every tenketsu in the body, coupled with a spin.
Can anyone (well, not anyone, but can non-Hyuuga) learn how to do it? I say yes, though for most people it is so impractical that it's not worth the time.

*tries to think of an appropriate analogy*
Let's take, say, two people who want to build a computer system.
One person has experience dismantling and reassembling VCR's, assembling home stereo systems, and has installed HD's in his computer before.
Person #2, well...they've pressed the power button before.

I would think most people would agree that in general, Person #1 would have an easier time than Person #2.
In fact, some forumgoers might discourage Person #2 from even attempting to build a computer on his own, even though it's still quite possible. Why is this?

It's because Person #1 can draw on his experience of working with electronics, where Person #2 would have to build his knowledge base almost from scratch.

At this point, I'm going to add spoiler tags to try and break up this post into easily-digestable chunks.

Spoiler:

The first break in knowledge comes from the tenketsu. Hyuuga learn where they are on the human body -- they can see them on a daily basis.
Chances are, Joe Shinobi out of the Academy doesn't know very much about them. After all, why would anyone teach them? You can't see them, you can't manipulate them; the knowledge itself is functionally useless to you because you can't do anything with it. He might know they exist, but most likely does not know where they all are.
And, based on the Hakke: Rokujuuyonshou attack, we know there's at least 64 of them.
And thanks to a pic Dauthi posted earlier, we have a clue as to where some of them are:

Spoiler:

So the first gap of knowledge to overcome is knowing where all the tenketsu are, something the Hyuuga already train for and can see.

Spoiler:

Now that you've memorized the tenketsus (in itself no small feat, since to your eyes they are invisible) the next step is to learn how to expel chakra out of every one of them.
Ninja train in how to externalize chakra from their hands and feet and mouth, but when's the last time they've externalized out of their right shoulder? Their knee?
It requires something they've never done at all before. The Hyuuga, at the very least, are used to expending a set amount of chakra out of individual fingertips (the basics of Jyuuken) as opposed to a general area like a hand or foot (walking on water). From that point, it's a matter of learning how to force chakra out of every tenketsu at the same time.

Spoiler:

The spin. This is, surprisingly, probably the hardest thing for a non-Hyuuga to replicate and use tactically.
A Byakugan allows you to see all everything you simultaneously and so you wouldn't get dizzy, as opposed to a normal person who would get dizzy after spinning around at a high RPM.

Kaiten builds upon the foundations of Jyuuken (absolute chakra control and tenketsus) and so a non-Hyuuga would need to study Jyuuken for months -- a style he would never be able to use very effectively -- for one move. To a Hyuuga, it's the next martial-arts move in the set.
If you can already jump and throw a crescent kick, then a jumping spin-kick is just an extension of what you already know.
If you're a heavyweight boxer (remain standing, only throwing punches), then is it really worth it for you to learn the jumping spin-kick? Or would your time be better spent working on your hand speed/strength/feints?

Two things scare me about this post:
- The amount of time I spent thinking about this and writing it -- I'm not really sure how much time it is, since I've been running back and forth and only being able to write a sentence or two at any given time.
- (an offshoot of the above point) This is only like ⅔ of what I had floating around in my head, but I've forgotten the rest of it.

[Rurik]

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