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Old 2009-08-06, 08:24   Link #20481
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I remember a time when this was still an image thread.

Ah, the good old days.
Sorry. I love a good moral alignment debate, but I guess I went too far with it.
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Old 2009-08-06, 08:26   Link #20482
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Jail did go out of his way to cause mayhem - he simply wanted to keep needless deaths down to a minimum at the same time.
Yes, and that is what makes him neutral evil.

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How so? Why would neutral evil care either way about a lawful organization? Evil is opposite to good, not opposite to lawful.
And? That doesn't mean a neutral evil character won't try to undermine such an organization. The point is that neutral evil is the alignment for the 'play along and then backstep' types. The alignment of those they backstep doesn't enter into it.

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Unless they're doing it to serve a chaotic end goal.
No, that'd make them neutral evil. Chaotic evil characters only follow orders out of fear of punishment or something similar.

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Aahhh... but Precia did care about Alicia. Everything she did was tied to Alicia - quite systematic, and hardly chaotic at all.

Precia had supreme regard for the life of Alicia. It's just that her pure evilness caused her to engage in evil means to try to accomplish her goals.
It is, actually. Alicia was Precia's desire. Remember, characters of this alignment tend to have no respect for rules, other peoples' lives, or anything but their own desires. Precia did not for a moment stop to think whether Alicia would have wanted Precia to do what she did. All she cared about was getting her back, and she'd do anything from whipping a clone of Alicia to tearing apart dimensions. Quite selfish, quote chaotic.

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Flashiness obviously runs counter to orderliness (organized parades notwithstanding - and Jail wasn't putting on a parade) - flashiness often has a train wreck effect, upsetting the natural order of things.
A serial murderer doesn't lit of the fireworks when he brutally and/or painfully kills someone. Doesn't mean he's not chaotic evil though.
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Old 2009-08-06, 08:30   Link #20483
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Look, I'm not saying this discussion is without merit. I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy. But it is off topic. People come here for images. I urge you guys to start a new thread for it and continue the discussion there. It's not like the server couldn't handle one more thread.
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Old 2009-08-06, 08:31   Link #20484
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Server won't, but the mods might. Even I can see how starting a new thread for the sole purpose of alignment debate would be questionable.

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Hmm, maybe the favorite character thread? Would give that thread a point besides people occasional saying 'I like this character.'
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Old 2009-08-06, 08:35   Link #20485
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Look, I'm not saying this discussion is without merit. I enjoy a good debate as much as the next guy. But it is off topic. People come here for images. I urge you guys to start a new thread for it and continue the discussion there. It's not like the server couldn't handle one more thread.
Edit: Actually, upon further review, I think that I was getting the labels mixed up here. Keroko is right - going by the D&D understanding of neutral evil and chaotic evil, Jail is neutral evil and Precia is chaotic evil.

Back to some great Nanoha images!

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Old 2009-08-06, 09:41   Link #20486
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Old 2009-08-06, 09:46   Link #20487
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Gorgeous
pic. Love the stance of both Nanoha and Fate there.

You can almost feel Nanoha thinking "You shall not pass!"
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Old 2009-08-06, 09:47   Link #20488
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*whistles* A 00 2500 card? What's the effect say?
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Old 2009-08-06, 09:48   Link #20489
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Old 2009-08-06, 10:51   Link #20490
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I made this today

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Cookies for two of the best quotes from StrikerS.

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Old 2009-08-06, 10:56   Link #20491
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*whistles* A 00 2500 card? What's the effect say?
Flavor text "There's something I'd like to get across." (ie. I'll SLB you.)

cost 1, put one opponent's front line character lvl 0 or below into the waiting room

VERY OVER POWERED

This is a PR card from the latest Megami.
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Old 2009-08-06, 11:10   Link #20492
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About Graham, yeah I see he broke the law. I think it's possible to swap him with Agito, who is neutral but has the extreme loyalty to Zest.
Or another possibility would be to make Graham Chaotic Neutral and Zest Neutral...
It should be as accurate as possible.


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DAT ASS.

Also, here's the Nanoha pic you liked:
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Also, I read the "After StrikerS" manga with Nanoha and Signum fighting. Awesome.
Unfortunately, all japanese.
Spoiler for Some pages:

The leader of the Wolkenritter can still kick Nanoha's ass after all.
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Old 2009-08-06, 11:14   Link #20493
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Flavor text "There's something I'd like to get across." (ie. I'll SLB you.)

cost 1, put one opponent's front line character lvl 0 or below into the waiting room

VERY OVER POWERED

This is a PR card from the latest Megami.
Wait wait wait, so a level 0 card with a zero cost and 2500 attack has a skill that can wipe out a players defense?

I smell an incoming ban.

Oh, and I finished the Numbers alignment chart:

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Made me realize Dieci is the only one of the numbers who'd fit the Lawful Good alignment.
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Also, I read the "After StrikerS" manga with Nanoha and Signum fighting. Awesome.
Unfortunately, all japanese.
The leader of the Wolkenritter can still kick Nanoha's ass after all.
You CAN read it in English...

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/mahou_...e_comics/c015/

Signum calling Nanoha "That thing" and the cute look on Nanoha's face. HEH!

Fate gets overly worried about both of them, course, that's all Nanoha's fault.
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Old 2009-08-06, 11:28   Link #20495
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@Keroko: That's awesome, although I always thought they were all neutral.. (Except Quattro).

@Nanya01: Cool, thanks.
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Old 2009-08-06, 11:58   Link #20496
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Wait wait wait, so a level 0 card with a zero cost and 2500 attack has a skill that can wipe out a players defense?

I smell an incoming ban.

Oh, and I finished the Numbers alignment chart:

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Made me realize Dieci is the only one of the numbers who'd fit the Lawful Good alignment.
I kind of remember the reddish orange-haired one being kind of nice

"Hey!" she said to Fate, with a sad face, "Please don't talk about our father (Jail) like that" (paraphrasing - going completely by memory; I may even have the wrong Number, lol)

I do recall at least one Number being genuinely considerate and moral.
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Old 2009-08-06, 12:02   Link #20497
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The one saying that to Fate was Tre. And yes, there was one number who was really concerned and moral, that was Dieci, the only one to actually question the Doctor's methods.

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I guess it's obvious how I took to her almost immediately...
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Anyone have the screen-shot of Nanoha all bandaged up and in a coma from the anime?
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