Opinions on Hitsugaya Toushirou [spoiler]

[Gin]

Originally Posted by Crimson Cloud

If I would to pick a next commander, Ukitake would be first one to get that job. He is shown the wisest and kindest captain among current ones. Minus the disease, he would be better then Yamamoto that's for sure. Well not stronger but strength isn't everything.

As for Hitsugaya, he is a neat character. His actions are much more speedy then his words and that alone makes him cool I guess. Too much screentime is killing my respect for him though.

I think Unohana would be most likely to fill the position, but my vote goes to Shunsui, he really won me over with his "Make female shinigami wear skimpier uniforms" policy

[Crimson Cloud]

Originally Posted by Gin

I think Unohana would be most likely to fill the position, but my vote goes to Shunsui, he really won me over with his "Make female shinigami wear skimpier uniforms" policy

Shunsui? Well that would be good for males but really bad for females. Not just the clothes, I think he would insert a few ''other'' rules as well

[Gin]

more reason for me to support him

[kitten320]

Originally Posted by Gin

I think Unohana would be most likely to fill the position, but my vote goes to Shunsui, he really won me over with his "Make female shinigami wear skimpier uniforms" policy

I'm damn afraid to imagine what Soi Fon would do to him if he asked her to wear something weird
Nanao would be damn scray as well

Besides when did he say it? It really reminds me of Roy from FMA

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by kitten320

I'm damn afraid to imagine what Soi Fon would do to him if he asked her to wear something weird
Nanao would be damn scray as well

Besides when did he say it? It really reminds me of Roy from FMA

hahaha, and Lt Fury praising him XD

and Soi FOn won't do a damn thing. all he has to do is mention Yoruichi would approve and BAM,

[ShinAkuma135]

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

hahaha, and Lt Fury praising him XD

and Soi FOn won't do a damn thing. all he has to do is mention Yoruichi would approve and BAM,

thats EXACTLY why i mentioned earlier that urahara is the luckiest guy around in bleach....first his girl is dang hot, second, when she does transform she's nekked, third he can make soi fon do anythin with him and yourichi....he's as big a player as shunsui

[kitten320]

Originally Posted by ShinAkuma135

thats EXACTLY why i mentioned earlier that urahara is the luckiest guy around in bleach....first his girl is dang hot, second, when she does transform she's nekked, third he can make soi fon do anythin with him and yourichi....he's as big a player as shunsui

Do I smell threesome in your post?

Yeh... if they will mention Yoruichi in front of Soi... I'm afraid she will agree to the most emracing things

[ShinAkuma135]

Originally Posted by kitten320

Do I smell threesome in your post?

Yeh... if they will mention Yoruichi in front of Soi... I'm afraid she will agree to the most emracing things

the good kind too...


oohhhhh riiiiight...go urahara san

[Waking_Dreamer]

Okay amusing convo...but this is the Hitsugaya Toushirou thread right....?

[ShinAkuma135]

Originally Posted by Waking_Dreamer

Okay amusing convo...but this is the Hitsugaya Toushirou thread right....?

righto....he just got a bit too boring (i mean c'mon talkin about a threeway involving soi fon and yourichi is a lot more interesting you gotta admit)...but right back on track now. Since his recent move is a 'basic' and yet 'most powerful' move i wonder if we'll get to see more complex moves (though maybe weaker) based on technique. maybe even kidou based moves.

[kitten320]

Originally Posted by ShinAkuma135

righto....he just got a bit too boring (i mean c'mon talkin about a threeway involving soi fon and yourichi is a lot more interesting you gotta admit)...but right back on track now. Since his recent move is a 'basic' and yet 'most powerful' move i wonder if we'll get to see more complex moves (though maybe weaker) based on technique. maybe even kidou based moves.

There is actually a seperate YoruSoi thred
Sadly no threesome thread with Urahara in it

And back on topic... I already said what I think... and I admit, with this move he is not the most weak captain in my ranking now... But he isn't that high either

[Kyero Fox]

welll he did say his power is still a baby sorta, give him a few years and bam. I belive Bakyua was his age int he flash back. so maybe when he is as old as Bakuya he will be even stronger than him!

[kitten320]

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

welll he did say his power is still a baby sorta, give him a few years and bam. I belive Bakyua was his age int he flash back. so maybe when he is as old as Bakuya he will be stronger!

Yeh he will, but others also won't stay on place. All of them can be at Shunsui/Ukitake level later

[papidoom]

Originally Posted by Geta Boshi

Hitsugaya maybe a prodigy in terms of talent and was also fastest shinigami to attain Taicho Rank .

But he is greeen horn in terms of power . I mean due to excess fan-girlism followed everywhere in terms of his chibi Kwaii-ness . He is overhyped more than his actual poptential . No doubt he is a good Taicho but no where near greatness , as many Bleach Otaku rate him as

Spoiler for Manga:

Hitsugaya's Bankai is not yet perfect or better say he has not mastered in totality , its cleary seen in Hitsu Vs Shawlong battle . Also there are two stages in Bankai ( i.e. Byakuya ) to be near Greatness he has to acheive both .

NO he is not the weakest Taicho in Sendai no Gotei , there are weaker Taichos like Tosen Komamura and Gin

why would Aizen keep a person who is supposedly weaker then hitsugaya as his second in command?

gin is probably one of the strongest captains.

[Waking_Dreamer]

Originally Posted by ShinAkuma135

Since his recent move is a 'basic' and yet 'most powerful' move i wonder if we'll get to see more complex moves (though maybe weaker) based on technique. maybe even kidou based moves.

Im sure he'll develop a lot more different moves not unlike the ice mirage which isnt totally about offense. The kids got nothing but time on his hands.

Also, here's a description I found about the archetypal version of the Child Prodigy often found in fiction. Its an interesting read and it definitely relates to Hitsugaya...

The good guy version of this character is a mature, emotionally reserved, and precocious child with a heavy sense of responsibility. Usually, these characters are afraid of their own power and aloof because of it, developing few friends (and those usually force themselves on the character, friendship-wise, ignoring not-so-subtle hints to stay away for their own safety).

The most important consideration for such a character is to never access the dangerously potent abilities when innocents or allies are near enough to be harmed, because low control in no way decreases the potency. Most of the time, it does the opposite, actually.

Inevitably, at some point, it's no longer enough to stick to only weak attacks unrelated to (or at least unable to accidentally tap into) the potentially devastating abilities. Usually, these characters come off as weak for this restraint, although they tend to turn out to be stronger than even they believed.

These characters tend to feel things very deeply, but to make up for the sense of lack of control, they both develop control in other aspects of their lives (becoming emotionally reserved) and develop some means of decreasing the power available to them. Artificial methods, such as exhausting themselves, to some small extent make up for being unable to use control to limit the power those potent abilities access.

Of course, refusing to tap into that potential can force this person to allow harm to come to friends because the cost of using their full power would do far worse. It's hard to tell when the line is crossed, but at some point, the potential harm the enemy can do to allies--or the actual harm they have done--becomes greater than the risk of hurting friends.

In expectation of this point arriving, this character type usually develops unnecessarily draining combat techniques and permits weakening attacks to land because that saps their power faster. Of course, that's presuming exquisite control in all other aspects. The person whose power outstrips their control of that power and of their temper can cause a lot of collateral damage.

Having less power available to force into obeisance usually looks like improved control, but doesn't always prevent overkill and unintended casualties, just as imperfect control in no way decreases the effectiveness and power of such dangerous attacks.

[Yosei]

I honestly don't hate Toshirou. I think Kubo could have used his character a lot better, and I choose to follow the manga these days alone precisely because of the horrible way the anime has treated so many characters, including Toshirou. But as a character, I'd be lying if I said I really disliked him. In fact, for the past two manga chapters, his coolness factor has been rising.

[Waking_Dreamer]

In the SS arc, I kind of thought of Hitsugaya as the darkhorse. The reliable guy thats working around the spotlight doing what he needs to do and having the potential to step it if he needs to. Though I was surprised to find everyone thinks of him as the Kubo's pet now.

Honestly I stopped watching Bleach halfway through the Bount arc and only watch certain episodes that have particular battles, just to see how they pull it off animated. So filler arcs/eps what the heck are those?!

From my perspective Hitsugaya has only been in 3 legitimate fights including his current one, hardly in your face to what people go on about. Renji has had more fights than this guy and Hitsu is only now tied with Byakuya in matches.

I also got around watching the second Bleach movie and I actually like it better than the first. Dont get me wrong I consider the first much better than Naruto moives but the second was just more entertaining. Yes, it does center around Hitsugaya but then at least it was not another lets save/protect/escort random stranger etc. etc. I mean all the captains release their bankai (well the ones that you already know) in an all out war in SS, even Yoruichi and Soi Fon do their thing!

When I read the manga I dont have Hitsufangirls squealing in my ear so sorry I dont suffer a lot of peoples pain, and Im glad I dont...otherwise these few chapters may have been like nails on a chalk board I guess...what can you do?

[ImpelDown]

Originally Posted by Kafriel

He can't be the next Yamamoto, because for him to be next means the first one's gone...and that old man's still alive and kickin:P

I have a feeling that he wont be for very much longer... I don't know why.

[ShinAkuma135]

Originally Posted by ImpelDown

I have a feeling that he wont be for very much longer... I don't know why.

lol i was thinking the exact opposite...i was thinkin he has shown no sign of goin down anytime soon.

[Gin]

Originally Posted by Yosei

I choose to follow the manga these days alone precisely because of the horrible way the anime has treated so many characters, including Toshirou.

Please explain the horrible way Hitsugaya has been treated. Was it his massive ammount of screen time? Or maybe the entire movie devoted to his character development?