Higurashi Spoiler Discussion (for people who have read the clues/finished the series)

[Sterling01]

The only dead body Takano moves is Tommy's

[Kanon-kun]

If that's the case, why doesn't somebody post proof?

[Eryops]

Originally Posted by Kanon-kun

If that's the case, why doesn't somebody post proof?

Why don't you post evidence for your claim that Takano moved it? The Sonozakis were the ones that covered for Satoshi when he murdered his aunt, so it makes sense that they'd do the same for Keiichi murdering Teppei, especially since Mion does the very same thing for Rena when she murders him. Plus, the fact that his friends were trying to create an alibi for him shows that they were trying to help him escape being arrested. Takano had nothing to do with this.

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by Kanon-kun

If that's the case, why doesn't somebody post proof?

Because no one have proof for any theory the body could be moving from takano, Mion, Shion etc... or keiichi could have digged the wrong hole.

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Eryops

The Sonozakis were the ones that covered for Satoshi when he murdered his aunt

IIRC It was Irie and Takano who did the covering...

[Eryops]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

IIRC It was Irie and Takano who did the covering...

Were the Yamainu the ones that planted the druggie that was later found dead in prison?

[Kanon-kun]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

Because no one have proof for any theory the body could be moving from takano, Mion, Shion etc... or keiichi could have digged the wrong hole.

That's the thing though-some people are trying to say for certain that it was Mion who organized the hiding of Teppei's body. Yes, she did cover for Rena, but that was because she and the others had helped to hide the body originally.

My theory is from what was hinted at in the anime. Nothing was said by Rena and the others to suggest moving the body, though they did cover for him so he wouldn't be blamed for the crime, should it be discovered. If the Sonozaki family had taken the body, there wouldn't really be much reason to cover for him, since it would be likely Teppei would be considered that year's victim of the curse, even moreso, since Takano's body is presumably found. And it is Takano who actually mentions stuff about the body's location and being easily discoverable, which would suggest she had her people take care of it. She did seem pretty irritated at the thought that he did a sloppy job and the body being discovered.

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Eryops

Were the Yamainu the ones that planted the druggie that was later found dead in prison?

Yes I think that's what happened.

Originally Posted by Kanon-kun

And it is Takano who actually mentions stuff about the body's location and being easily discoverable, which would suggest she had her people take care of it. She did seem pretty irritated at the thought that he did a sloppy job and the body being discovered.

Takano just says that if he didn't bury the body deep enough dogs would dig it. It was just her way of teasing him.

What she becomes irritated at was how long it took him to get "we didn't see each other tonight."
I'm surprised she just didn't kill him then.

Also never use just the anime to create a theory

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by Sterling01

Also never use just the anime to create a theory

YEs , they did a sloppy job for tatatrigoroshi-hen, that might be une of the reason we are still on that topic ( or at lease , it help)

[Kanon-kun]

Still, I'm not seeing anything at all that supports Mion being the one responsible for the body being moved, and no one has provided anything at all to even suggest that's true.

[Sterling01]

竜騎士07 said it, it's true

[Kanon-kun]

Then post proof already, instead of just saying things.

[Niemand]

Isn't it clear enough when they all try to openly cover up for him ?
Why pretend he went to the matsuri with them, if not to say "we know, we're going to help you" ?

Keiichi is doing the exact same thing Satoshi did before he disappeared and Shion (and the others, this time) are covering for him in the exact same fashion.

Even with just the anime, you should have gotten that...

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by Niemand

Isn't it clear enough when they all try to openly cover up for him ?
Why pretend he went to the matsuri with them, if not to say "we know, we're going to help you" ?

Keiichi is doing the exact same thing Satoshi did before he disappeared and Shion (and the others, this time) are covering for him in the exact same fashion.

Even with just the anime, you should have gotten that...

Every one agree on that; they try to give keiichi a alibi for the night of the Watanagashi matsuri, but giving a alibi and covering his trace is not the same.
By the way, how Mion and Rena could be making a alibi to Keiichi for the festival's night , if they are not themself on the site ( if they are realy the onr than did move the body) ?

[Sterling01]

Originally Posted by Niemand

Isn't it clear enough when they all try to openly cover up for him ?
Why pretend he went to the matsuri with them, if not to say "we know, we're going to help you" ?

Keiichi is doing the exact same thing Satoshi did before he disappeared and Shion (and the others, this time) are covering for him in the exact same fashion.

Even with just the anime, you should have gotten that...

But K1 was to fucked up at that point to see what they were trying to do

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

Every one agree on that; they try to give keiichi a alibi for the night of the Watanagashi matsuri, but giving a alibi and covering his trace is not the same.

Indeed, but actually, considering how it happened in Tsumihoroboshi, both actions are logically linked together, especially that giving an alibi isn't enough if the evidence can be found.

By the way, how Mion and Rena could be making a alibi to Keiichi for the festival's night , if they are not themself on the site ( if they are realy the onr than did move the body) ?

Considering what Mion said in Tsumihoroboshi, she didn't do that by herself, but she asked help from the henchemen of the Sonozaki (especially that I can hardly see both girls being able to figure where Teppei's corpse is, while the Sonozaki Yakuza obviously have manpowers and means to do that).

Mion had vastly the time for it, as Keiichi asked her to "kill Teppei", and also how Shion had that phone call. Actually, why would shion be at the Sonozaki estate at that time? Especially under that appearance?
Most likely that she is taking Mion's place for the alibi, while Mion is preparing the stuff to cover Keiichi.

[ganbaru]

Originally Posted by Klashikari

Considering what Mion said in Tsumihoroboshi, she didn't do that by herself, but she asked help from the henchemen of the Sonozaki (especially that I can hardly see both girls being able to figure where Teppei's corpse is, while the Sonozaki Yakuza obviously have manpowers and means to do that).

I agree than the Sonozaki got the means and manpower to find the corpse, but that kind of thing are not so easy to do without being see, the corpse is not to far of the road.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by ganbaru

I agree than the Sonozaki got the means and manpower to find the corpse, but that kind of thing are not so easy to do without being see, the corpse is not to far of the road.

It is just the same reason why Keiichi wasn't caught: they did it during the timeframe of the Festival.
Basically, the very span between Keiichi was going back home with takano, and the very end of the festival which ends very late at night.

Much like what Keiichi figured in his KOOL MODE (which was removed altogether in the anime), that area was hardly monitored.

[orange541]

Failed to find direct explanation from 07 himself in the game
so I think it's open for interpretation

[srstarry]

i found this somewhere

Super duper spoiler?

o.O