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Old 2006-10-13, 04:48   Link #1
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Exclamation Hong Kong AnimeSuki BT users please HELP!

Hi people new to the board ... i am still thinking whether or not to download stuff using BT at Hong Kong ... as their are alot of news about people getting hunted down using BT to download stuff ... Does anyone in the board are from Hong Kong are using BT now as we speak to download anime? My mean aim is to get anime basically from BT and that is mostly it as ... all of it is fansubs ....

Any ones got any some what a good solution to tackle the government or should we say the Internet police to sniff you out on download stuff from BT?

Lots of thanks!
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Old 2006-10-13, 12:37   Link #2
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Perhaps you should try using "encrypted connections" in uTorrent or the like? The bluecoats shouldn't be able to sniff what you are doing if the connection is scrambled.

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Old 2006-10-13, 20:03   Link #3
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Alots of thanks wordplay ... for a solution!
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Old 2006-11-29, 20:12   Link #4
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since you are in hong kong it is probably not a good idea to use BT since all te japanese anime that you can get is protected by copyright in ASIA. we can download it for free here becase it hasnt been lisenced in northern america yet but most of the liceneses for japan cover china, taiwan and all of asia i think. so downloading anime from animesuki is technically illegal in hongkong, china, japan etc etc..
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Old 2006-11-29, 22:05   Link #5
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from my years of working as a server admin, I can tell you now that there is no such thing as a "safe connection", specially in Asia areas. The government Will want to know that the hell you are doing. As long as that you are not doing anything shady, they will let you walk.

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Old 2006-12-02, 17:24   Link #6
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since you are in hong kong it is probably not a good idea to use BT since all te japanese anime that you can get is protected by copyright in ASIA. we can download it for free here becase it hasnt been lisenced in northern america yet but most of the liceneses for japan cover china, taiwan and all of asia i think. so downloading anime from animesuki is technically illegal in hongkong, china, japan etc etc..
If that is true, why is that most of anime pirate products are from Asia?
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Old 2006-12-04, 15:15   Link #7
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1) because not everyone have broadband or large DL limite like we do in NA and some Euro crountries. They might have super fast connections but a lot of the ISP do cap the transfer amount.
2)When I was in HK last year for the summer stay, the ISP capped the friend that I was staying with, they capped his DL at 2 GB per month.
3)On the other hand, it's also cheaper to buy per ep from the evil pirates than to DL them as well, it's like around less than $1US per CD.
4)Oh, there is also the habbit of how most Asians dislike waiting around for things, they really rather give something in return for something they want instantly.
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Old 2006-12-05, 15:55   Link #8
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since you are in hong kong it is probably not a good idea to use BT since all te japanese anime that you can get is protected by copyright in ASIA. we can download it for free here becase it hasnt been lisenced in northern america yet but most of the liceneses for japan cover china, taiwan and all of asia i think. so downloading anime from animesuki is technically illegal in hongkong, china, japan etc etc..
This is the first time I hear that Japan liceneses instantly covering the whole of Asia . As ridiculous as you may see, this is exactly like saying that any single TV series in the US, disregarding the quality, fees and legal stuff, are instantly licensed in the whole of the English-speaking world.

Well, it would be truly fantastic if it was true. I wouldn't have to import R1 Kamichu or Haibane Renmei at ridiculous prices with crazy shipment fees when you can pick them up in Rightstuf or whatever online dealer at a great discount.

Anyway, the whole licensing system works exactly the same everywhere in the world, except every place gets different things licensed at different time. The theatrical and video releases of Ghibli stuff here started in as early as 1987, while we will never be able to see stuff like Elfen Lied in our local DVD stores.



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4)Oh, there is also the habbit of how most Asians dislike waiting around for things, they really rather give something in return for something they want instantly.
Talk about over-generalizations as blatant as those like "all bootlegs on earth are from Hong Kong" or "all anime are cartoon porn." But anyway if it is so, wouldn't it be a support to downloading stuff instead of waiting for pirated releases? Say, to a harcore anime/Key fan, nothing can beat seeing Kanon within five hours of the broadcast time in Japan with accurate and properly-timed subtitles and translation notes. And no, you can never get BS-i quality from crappy pirated DVDs that squeeze 26 episodes into 2-3 discs.



Back to the topic, the current policy of Hong Kong, pushed by the local media giants with the assistance of the goverment, is to sue those who helps to upload licensed stuff to the general public. The "helps to upload" part is a bit tricky, because BTers normally assume only the one who uploads the torrents and provides the source files is the "uploader," while the government/coporations asserts that everyone who send a single byte to another peer is an uploader (despite this is the way any peer-to-peer system works). Anyway you are placing yourself in great risk if you attempt to download the latest Andy Lau movie or the album of Twins. But I can't see how the Big Ones here would be interested in spending money to hunt down unlicensed harem anime lovers who would never give a damn to Andy Lau or Twins, let alone bothering to waste the diskspace and bandwidth to download their stuff. Still, Tales from Earthsea is a different story though, as Ghibli stuff are truly the ones that get instantly licensed (and if you have the cash, support Goro Miyazaki ).

Or, to be more prudent, stop using BT, learn Japanese, enjoy RAW anime from Share and Winny within one hour of the broadcast time in Japan, and discuss with the otaku on 2ch who would never care where you got the releases from. Given the 1-hour time difference, you are essentially watching the anime at the same "time" with the Japanese otakus after the download finishes. Pretty fantastic indeed.

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Old 2006-12-06, 14:12   Link #9
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If you worried, just buy the bootleg DVD once the series is finished. The bootleg DVDs are usually just fansub rips, so the translation quality is the same.
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Old 2006-12-06, 18:14   Link #10
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having bought many bootlegs i can say that it would be nice if that were always true, but most of mine have horrable subs. "These sands is annoying" - Kimimaro
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Old 2006-12-08, 04:24   Link #11
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I guess I have better luck. Most DVDs I got are fansub rips. But you can always just buy one disc and see if that particular shop sells fansubs rips or just bad jibberish translations.
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Old 2006-12-08, 09:22   Link #12
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Most actual shops sell good translations, but most online sites sell ones so bad that if they didn't put subs in there wouldn't be much of a change.

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Old 2006-12-09, 01:23   Link #13
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Yeah, I only bought from physical shops, haven't tried eBay.
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Old 2006-12-09, 19:37   Link #14
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i got a .hack//roots dvd from ebay, one of the episodes wasn't even raw, it was a chinese fansub that they had put english (if you can call it english) over.

back on the subject of BT in Hong Kong, i just wouldn't. If you really want to, you could go to a place with a wireless connection and just download from it without having to worry. I would recomend downloading from direct download sites or just stearming online

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Old 2006-12-16, 05:14   Link #15
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use http://www.torrentspy.com and search for animesuki batches
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that won't help for not being detected
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