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Old 2006-10-18, 16:09   Link #1
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Graphics card recommendation

Hello. I've been meaning to buy myself a graphics card that will be able to handle games like World of Warcraft and FFXI and have it cost under $70. A few people recommended I get a GeForce 6200 card (one of the ones listed here) but from looking at some of the reviews it seems like that might not be enouph. Anyway, here are my current system specs:

Windows XP
1.60 GHz Processor
640mb RAM
about 140+ GB available hard drive space.

any and all recommendations will be greatly welcomed. Thank you~
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Old 2006-10-18, 16:23   Link #2
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Tough budget to work on. Do you have an AGP or PCI-E slot? My advice would be to check out the For Sale forum on Anandtech Forums. You should be able to find a good deal there.
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Old 2006-10-18, 19:04   Link #3
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Tough budget to work on. Do you have an AGP or PCI-E slot?
1 AGP slot (currently occupied by a GeForce 2 MX card) and three PCI slots.
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Old 2006-10-19, 05:24   Link #4
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My old Radeon 9550 could handly WoW, though my old machine had 1GB of RAM on an Athlon XP2000. My parent's machine could handle it too, with the same graphics card but an Athlon 64 3000 and 512MB of RAM.

It should be quite a cheap card nowadays, if it's still available. (£30 in England, which is just under US$60)

EDIT: Radeon 9550, not 7550 I had. The 9600 is better and if it's within your budget, get that. The 9550 'merely' ran WoW. 7550 doesn't exist as far as I know.

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Old 2006-10-19, 09:25   Link #5
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Radeon 9600Pro. Just below your price and they are very good cards...
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Old 2006-10-19, 15:56   Link #6
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I also use an oudated GC, GeForce Ti 4200 with AGPX8 (dates back to 2002 or earlier lol). And im still able to play for example Quake 4 (low shit stuff) and World of Warcraft full at everything (video ress etc), but if you plan to play FFXI or WoW. I suggest that you get min 1GB (1024, like 2x515) of RAM or you will suffer from lagg issues, especially from WoW. As that game now host alot of players (theys days) on each server making it "laggy" in most places like Instances or Battlegrounds so 1Gb is a min: If you plan to play FFXI (Final Fantasy XI (11)) for those that do not know, I suggest that you get atleast 750mb~ of RAM or keep at 1GB. The game is old, but takes alot of space.


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The card that I have, can be found for less than 30-40$, if im not wrong.
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Old 2006-10-19, 17:22   Link #7
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Hmm, for $74 you could get this 9800 pro, on sale right now. It should do better than a 9600 or 9550. You could probably find one cheaper on ebay. Or you could get some kind of 6600 for a few dollars more. Even though those are a little over $70, I'd say those cards would do best for around that much money.
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Old 2006-10-19, 17:56   Link #8
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I suggest that you get min 1GB (1024, like 2x515) of RAM or you will suffer from lagg issues, especially from WoW. As that game now host alot of players (theys days) on each server making it "laggy" in most places like Instances or Battlegrounds so 1Gb is a min: If you plan to play FFXI (Final Fantasy XI (11)) for those that do not know, I suggest that you get atleast 750mb~ of RAM or keep at 1GB. The game is old, but takes alot of space.
How will the game(s) play at 640 mb RAM? I just spent $41 upgrading my RAM up to where it currently is, so I don't want to have to spend even MORE money just to play the game
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Old 2006-10-19, 21:19   Link #9
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How will the game(s) play at 640 mb RAM? I just spent $41 upgrading my RAM up to where it currently is, so I don't want to have to spend even MORE money just to play the game
Hard to say..I had 512 mb RAM on this PC before I had WoW. But I played it up til those Battlegrounds came in. After that It just went laggy, so I bought another 512. And it never went "laggy" again (excluding lag spikes).
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Old 2006-10-20, 06:38   Link #10
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It should play fine on 640MB RAM. I played Doom 3 on 512MB RAM with a 64MB intel extreme 2 integrated graphics and it run, so I don't see that as a problem.
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Old 2006-10-20, 09:24   Link #11
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I second the 9800 Pro recommendation. It's what I used to build my computer a couple years back. It's an excellent bang-for-your-buck video card and is more than enough for WoW (or at least it was as of late last year... I don't know if it's enough to handle all the new-fangled stuff - like weather - in addition). You might be able to snag an X800 Pro for about the same price on eBay, though.
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Old 2006-10-20, 23:11   Link #12
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ok, it seems like I may have posted the wrong link in my original post since I really looking for a good Geforce series card rather then a Radeon one. I hear the 6200's are good, but I'm not sure which one would be the best at my previously indiciated price range
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Old 2006-10-20, 23:30   Link #13
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I don't recommand the NVidia derivatives with your budget. 9800 is the best choice imo... you want a 7600 or the 6800 if you're going NVidia, which is still out of your reach for now.
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Old 2006-10-21, 03:00   Link #14
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Seriously... why are you even considering the 6200? Yes, it's cheap. There's a reason for that. It's the watered-down, bottom-of-the-barrel, value-driven, user-who-doesn't-care-about-graphics-only-office-applications version of the GeForce 6 product line. It's the equivalent of buying any of the Radeon SE cards. You do NOT want to use it for gaming.

The 9800, on the other hand, was the top of the line (technically, the 9800XT was the very top... but the Pro was just one step behind it) card from the Radeon 9000 series. i.e. the card was built with gaming in mind. Though the Radeon 9000 series is from the generation before the 6200 (the 9800 competed against cards from nVidia's FX line of GeForce cards - and outperformed them, I might add), the gap between "value card of the next generation" and "gamer card of the previous generation" is quite visible. If you want, you can check out http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....1=31&card2=192 to see what I'm getting at. The benchmarks of the two cards are like night and day. I stand by my suggestion of the 9800 Pro. I also still suggest that, if you want to go through the extra work, you grab an X800 Pro off of eBay.

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Old 2006-10-21, 10:20   Link #15
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... I hear the 6200's are good ...
Ok, just to be clear. You heard wrong. The 6200 is garbage, pure and simple. I would never recommend that card to anyone who ever wanted to play a video game (or it's predisessors, the MX 4000, the 440MX or the FX 5200, garbage all).
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Ok, just to be clear. You heard wrong. The 6200 is garbage, pure and simple. I would never recommend that card to anyone who ever wanted to play a video game (or it's predisessors, the MX 4000, the 440MX or the FX 5200, garbage all).
How about the 66000 series then? I was thinking of buying this card since its pretty cheap and is one notch above the 6200 cards (or so I've been told about the difference in the two series).
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Old 2006-10-21, 19:53   Link #17
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You're using an AGP slot... I would instead recommand the following:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102410
Radeon 9600pro instead. $56.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130262
There's an AGP verison of 6600LE for $80 but it's just slightly higher.
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Old 2006-10-21, 21:18   Link #18
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I'd like to see you just TRY to fit that PCI-E card into your AGP slot. The only 6600 card that can actually outperform the 9800Pro is the 6600 GT... and that means it's pretty much eBay or bust if you want one in your price range. With the 9800Pro, you at least have a few other options open to you if you want to get it within your price target.
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eBay or bust
Or... craigslist.
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You're using an AGP slot...
I've got 3 PCI slots though
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