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View Poll Results: Is Naruto worthy of the Chuunin rank
Yes, atleast! 65 36.52%
Yes, but he (seriously) lacks knowlegde 63 35.39%
No, but i think it wont take too long till he becomes it 12 6.74%
No 13 7.30%
No, not at all. He should be glad to be a genin. 25 14.04%
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Old 2006-11-01, 21:10   Link #81
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These would have been very low ranked missions though, seeings as a C ranked mission was quite a bit for Kakashi's squad in the beginning, and the leader was a Jounin.
I'm assuming you're talking about that escort mission in the Zabusa Arc? If so...I believe it got upgraded to a higher ranked mission because of what was revealed.

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I think Neji and possibly Sasuke would have been promoted to Chuunin had Naruto been knocked unconcious at the end of his fight with Neji causing Neji to win it.
irrelevant, it was already pretty much made clear why Naruto and Neji wouldn't of made Chuunin, despite of who won/lost.

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However Shika was promoted because though he lost his fight, he showed chuunin like leadership and it'd be waste for him to spend another year as a genin.
could of swore he won his fight against Temari...
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Old 2006-11-01, 21:26   Link #82
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I hate to be difficult, but I actually don't remember it being said that being a chuunin has to do with leadership. I doubt everyone who's a chuunin or even a jounin is instinctively a good leader. So please someone just show the manga page where it was said or give the anime episode so I can just shut up.
Conversation i'm talking about is in chapter 109 near the begining... its a conversation between the Izumo and Kotetsu, two of the examiners

let me ask this... can you name an chunin or jounin that doesn't seem to pocess the intellgence to lead a team or one that looks like they were promoted based on raw power alone? The do all have good leadership skills... they all have good intellegence and the ability to think about the whole team, work with them, and are not ever blinded by personal glory... unlike most genin... All of them could lead a team of a genin/chunin if need be...

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could of swore he won his fight against Temari...
nope, he offically gave up right after grabbing temari with his jutsu
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Old 2006-11-01, 21:31   Link #83
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blah! it was so long ago T_T
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Old 2006-11-01, 22:21   Link #84
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let me ask this... can you name an chunin or jounin that doesn't seem to pocess the intellgence to lead a team or one that looks like they were promoted based on raw power alone? The do all have good leadership skills... they all have good intellegence and the ability to think about the whole team, work with them, and are not ever blinded by personal glory... unlike most genin... All of them could lead a team of a genin/chunin if need be...


nope, he offically gave up right after grabbing temari with his jutsu

Sure. Chouji. Or Hinata.

And anyone can bark out orders. What matters is the orders have to be solid.

And in my opinion leadership can be taught.
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Old 2006-11-01, 22:33   Link #85
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I hate that everyone feels that Naruto sucks.
I honestly think it's the fillers that make people think this.
He follows instructions, even if they take them away from their friends, and he becomes extremely smart strategy wise as he trains.
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Old 2006-11-01, 22:48   Link #86
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Sure. Chouji. Or Hinata.

And anyone can bark out orders. What matters is the orders have to be solid.

And in my opinion leadership can be taught.
If your talking post-timeskip, (and do re-call, this is a non-manga thread)
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What's the point of saying leadership can be taught?
it's not like anyone said that you had to be born with leadership qualities... learning to be a good leader comes with disipline and experience... get both and mix in a good amount of intellegence and you'll eventually learn to lead...

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I hate that everyone feels that Naruto sucks.
I honestly think it's the fillers that make people think this.
He follows instructions, even if they take them away from their friends, and he becomes extremely smart strategy wise as he trains.
1) since when does, "not chunin-worthy" equal to "sucks"...
2) most poeple hear don't even consider fillers, they're not canon
3) being a chunin is about leading, not following...
4) A chunin must be able to think for the whole team, not himself... when it comes down to it, naruto mostly improvises and makes up his plans as he goes... unlike shikamaru who stays 10 steps ahead of his enemies... the later is good for teams, the former is only useful for solo fighting... as a leader, Naruto would probably end up making a lot of bad judgement calls when ordering the other genin...
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Old 2006-11-02, 21:39   Link #87
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ok, leading.
Lets take the plan he created so he and sasuke could take down the ninja who was matching Kakashi on the water.
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Old 2006-11-02, 22:59   Link #88
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Yes naruto should be chunnin, but he lacks knowledge. In fact, the only reason he should not be a Jounin is cus hes as dumb as wood. Otherwise, he should be a Jounin.

His lack of brains is a serious liability
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Old 2006-11-03, 00:58   Link #89
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The chuunin rank tests in part power (you dont want an overly weak leader), but what they are really testing is leadership/maturity.

Basically, there are kids that are very strong, but you dont want them to be a leader simply because they are strong. They may lack the necessary abilities to analyze situations and consider what is best for the group.

Juunin more than likely tests simply raw power and ability. Once chuunin is accomplished, extremely talented/genious ninja's i would imagine are able to accomplish juunin soon after.
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Old 2006-11-03, 17:46   Link #90
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The chuunin rank tests in part power (you dont want an overly weak leader), but what they are really testing is leadership/maturity.

Basically, there are kids that are very strong, but you dont want them to be a leader simply because they are strong. They may lack the necessary abilities to analyze situations and consider what is best for the group.

Juunin more than likely tests simply raw power and ability. Once chuunin is accomplished, extremely talented/genious ninja's i would imagine are able to accomplish juunin soon after.
yes, i agree naruto is very strong but the reason he is not worthy of being chuunin becuase he doesnt use his head and neither he has some good analyzing skills..
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Old 2006-11-30, 21:09   Link #91
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naruto's an idiot but in certain situations his iq could be even higher than shikamaru's like his fight with kakashi for the bells(both times), his fight with kiba, his fight with neji(using a kage bunshin) besides his iq his strength is spectacular(not really but if he calls on a bit of nine-tail) his leadership skills are bogus and would probably get his team killed but his determinatio would make up for that
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Old 2006-12-01, 00:08   Link #92
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He has jounin's strength.

He lack leadership, but he has the determnation to obtain it if he control his emotions which always get the better of him, but then again, that's what make him who he is and powerful.

But who really care about ranks?

Itachi is really a chunnin and he doesn't care.

Just as long as Naruto beat the crap out of them and take names, he is fine being a "genin" forever
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Old 2006-12-01, 17:14   Link #93
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Naruto is kage level. if he can seriously wound jiraiya and can fight off orochimaru, then he is kage level. think about it like this... lets say naruto was else where someplace and sakura, sai, and yamato met orochimaru. How long do you think that fight would have lasted?
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Old 2006-12-02, 13:14   Link #94
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Naruto is kage level. if he can seriously wound jiraiya and can fight off orochimaru, then he is kage level. think about it like this... lets say naruto was else where someplace and sakura, sai, and yamato met orochimaru. How long do you think that fight would have lasted?

You have to remember three things.

One, Jiraiya wouldn't fight Naruto to the death, not even kill him. He was supressing MK.

Two, Oro was playing with MK the whole time, and decided to spare his life as he was testing him. This is mentioned many times during and after the fight.

Three, that was not Naruto, but mini Kyuubi. Naruto lost conscious at three tails, as he doesn't remember destroying the bridge.
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Old 2006-12-02, 13:33   Link #95
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You have to remember three things.

One, Jiraiya wouldn't fight Naruto to the death, not even kill him. He was supressing MK.

Two, Oro was playing with MK the whole time, and decided to spare his life as he was testing him. This is mentioned many times during and after the fight.

Three, that was not Naruto, but mini Kyuubi. Naruto lost conscious at three tails, as he doesn't remember destroying the bridge.
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As for Shikamaru....he possed "the most important attribute" (Leadership) but cant compare to Naruto at all in terms of fighting(spirit). (During Chuunin Exam)

I think Shikamaru was pretty much the weakest person around..with the brain of a genius.

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Old 2006-12-02, 17:30   Link #96
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I'm sorry, but was that directed at me? I didn't talk about Neji or Shika.
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I'm sorry, but was that directed at me? I didn't talk about Neji or Shika.
I am not sure...i read something about Neji and just put it between it ...

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Old 2006-12-03, 08:04   Link #98
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You're both partially right :
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Old 2006-12-03, 09:52   Link #99
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yeah i guess it's similair when people are drunk....(even though i've never been drunk...from what i've heard) some people know what they do...but when they are clear of all the alcohol...(next day) they totally forgot what they really did...
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I am not sure...i read something about Neji and just put it between it ...


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