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Old 2008-05-24, 10:38   Link #10041
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actully, from what archetypal imagery tells me, Suzaku could easily die, but it won't be toward the very end, and it won't be till after he joins Lelouch.
My therory is suzaku will overhear what really happened to Euphie from the Emperor or V.V. (assuming my other theory is correct about VV activating Lulu's geass at that moment) and Suzaku will hate them more than Lulu, and join.
Um; the geass went super-active from Lelouch's use of it. C2 told him that as he used it more and more, it would become more and more powerful. I don't think the plot can throw that large of a curve-ball, where V2 activated the Geass, and still not raise a lot of eyebrows.
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Old 2008-05-24, 10:47   Link #10042
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Um; the geass went super-active from Lelouch's use of it. C2 told him that as he used it more and more, it would become more and more powerful. I don't think the plot can throw that large of a curve-ball, where V2 activated the Geass, and still not raise a lot of eyebrows.
However,

V.V did activate Lelouch's Geass on the island when V.V activated the ruins
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However,

V.V did activate Lelouch's Geass on the island when V.V activated the ruins
... No he didn't.
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... No he didn't.
Yes he did, go check for yourself
When the ruin that lelouch and everybody is standing on activates, so does lelouch's geass
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Ruins activated because of geass user. We have no evidence of V.V. doings there
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Old 2008-05-24, 11:04   Link #10046
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Yeah, what v1nx said. We only saw V.V.'s face because he was watching the whole thing and the development amused him.
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Does that mean he was the observer C.C was talking to?
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Old 2008-05-24, 15:59   Link #10048
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Does that mean he was the observer C.C was talking to?
The one she was talking about in 19 was V.V.. She also has been talking to Marianne and a third unknown person.

And Lelouch's Geass reacted to the ruins and it seems those were set off by the precense of Lelouch, Suzaku, and maybe V.V.. I'm curious why he was so amused though.
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:09   Link #10049
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Come to think of it, what's our guarantee that Marianne is really dead?
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:20   Link #10050
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Come to think of it, what's our guarantee that Marianne is really dead?
I dunno. Seeing her lying on the ground riddled with a dozen bullets in a pool of blood?

I mean sure it's not a cockpit death but still....
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Come to think of it, what's our guarantee that Marianne is really dead?
None, I'd say. For all we know, the emperor might've mindfucked everyone who was involved in it all, meaning it might all be one big lie and she's alive somewhere <_<. Well, I think she's most likely dead, but you knever know what plot twists they're going to come out with...
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:23   Link #10052
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I dunno. Seeing her lying on the ground riddled with a dozen bullets in a pool of blood?

I mean sure it's not a cockpit death but still....
1. If she's like C.C., that doesn't necessarily mean much.

2. If she isn't, the whole thing could easily be faked with Charles' Geass.
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:26   Link #10053
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1. If she's like C.C., that doesn't necessarily mean much.

2. If she isn't, the whole thing could easily be faked with Charles' Geass.
......I'll give you that.
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:27   Link #10054
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Kind of hard for him to use his Geass on everybody present there
and if he did that means his Geass doesn't have a one time restriction
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:31   Link #10055
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Come to think of it, what's our guarantee that Marianne is really dead?
None really, especially since her coffin is apparently empty since Schneizal took her body away. There is always the chance she is immortal as well or in cahoots with Charles, though I am sort of putting the latter option as a low chance given what has happened.

One thing is that Marianne did say at one point "I don't want immortality." I don't know what that mean exactly since you could look at it in a number of ways.
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Old 2008-05-24, 16:32   Link #10056
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When did she mention please?
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Technically it was only in the DS game. However, this line took place during 22 if I recall correctly and was on the storyboards so it is canon. It was that scene where Suzaku sees Marianne when he touches C.C..
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Old 2008-05-24, 17:14   Link #10058
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I dunno. Seeing her lying on the ground riddled with a dozen bullets in a pool of blood?

I mean sure it's not a cockpit death but still....
Mao got hosed aswell and he was up and running 1 ep later
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That was because Lelouch ordered them to shoot, not kill. Doesn't change that it looked like he died though.
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Old 2008-05-24, 17:24   Link #10060
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That was because Lelouch ordered them to shoot, not kill. Doesn't change that it looked like he died though.
He got shot through the heart, I thought he was dead for sure
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