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Old 2007-08-01, 17:45   Link #2141
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Old 2007-08-01, 20:17   Link #2142
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Old 2007-08-01, 21:28   Link #2143
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Actually, I don't know. Could you explain further pls.
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Old 2007-08-01, 22:05   Link #2144
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Actually, I don't know. Could you explain further pls.
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Old 2007-08-02, 03:49   Link #2145
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Watched subbed ep 16.

Juugo was pretty comical there.

Also, question: is Kazuma and Ren's mother still around? Or did she die while Kazuma was away?

Also, I find it a pity Kazuma didn't seduce Kirika just to show he was a better man than his father.
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Old 2007-08-02, 03:54   Link #2146
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did he meet her after or before he ran away? And was she his lover or something?
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Old 2007-08-02, 05:21   Link #2147
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^ after and yes as far as we know she was his lover (or love interest)
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Old 2007-08-02, 06:39   Link #2148
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^ after and yes as far as we know she was his lover (or love interest)
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It's great that they're back on track and all but I still want to see something really "big" happen and by big I mean a huge fight or Kazuma and Ayano finally getting serious with each other esp Kazuma but not so much with ayano since she's the one showing us her deepest feelings for the guy or maybe ayano could become smart for once (now that would be big)Anyway I hope we get to all that soon since I think there are only 9 or so more episodes remaining and I would think that ayano and kazuma would be a couple for at least 5 episodes- at least that's what I hope but either way they will eventually become couple I just want it to happen sooner than I expect it to.
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Old 2007-08-02, 13:53   Link #2149
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I'm going to assume Kazuma's mother is dead since if she's around they've really pushed her right out of the series. Plus if they are moving Kazuma's father closer to Kirika at the very least they are going to be divorced. Anyways, it's not like Kazuma wants anything to do with his mother so it probably won't become an issue.
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Old 2007-08-02, 15:14   Link #2150
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No, she isn’t dead, she’s still at home, and Kazuma and Ren share the same mother. Her name is Miyuki, which means, deep snow.

When Kazuma visited Genma in hospital,
“Do you hate Miyuki?”
“Nothing in particular. Parents who do not love their child are not rare nowadays. That woman didn‘t love me, I don‘t remember loving that woman either. So we‘re just the same.”

Also, when Ren took Ayumi to the beach, Ayano mentioned that Miyuki was worried about Ren because it’s late.

In such a clan, a woman married into the family is likely just a tool to bear the heir. Since Kazuma was useless, I’d only imagine that her life was very difficult too until Ren’s birth.

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Old 2007-08-03, 01:29   Link #2151
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To those who read the novels

Is the novel finish? If not is it a lot farther than the anime? (stupid question, but wanna know if the main plot is quite far) Also i got a question about a certain character:

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Old 2007-08-03, 09:08   Link #2152
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Old 2007-08-03, 09:46   Link #2153
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could this possibly have a second season? if they decide to continue it beyond.
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Old 2007-08-03, 10:41   Link #2154
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Also, I find it a pity Kazuma didn't seduce Kirika just to show he was a better man than his father.
Would really do much? I mean Kazuma already commented to Ren and Ayano when Ren said are we going to have to call Inspector Tachibana mother?, that they shouldnt beleive everything they hear. Since Kazuma knows whats really going on it wouldnt prove anything to his father. A punch in the face however proves much
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Old 2007-08-03, 10:48   Link #2155
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I still say it should have been "punch in the face" and then seduction. Pretty cavemanish, I know, but what better way to establish dominance?

(And as far as I'm concerned, it's not like you really need an incentive to sleep with Kirika... Plus, it would tweak Sousho and his damn stupid setups.)
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kazuma isnt into older woman hes more into the "sweet 16" type ~ you go ayano :3
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Old 2007-08-03, 11:49   Link #2157
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kazuma isnt into older woman hes more into the "sweet 16" type ~ you go ayano :3
get em while their young LOL

Is anyone else getting a little worried about Ayano's dad? I know hes trying to get them together but the visuals he had in episode 16 were a little disturbing. Looks the sooner Ayano gets knocked up the better for him, i have never seen anyone who has tried to pass their daughter off so hard before.
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Old 2007-08-03, 11:59   Link #2158
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You obviously have not looked back in history. In some cultures, fathers used their daughters as something to bargin and trade with. Plus if a father could get his daughter pregnant by a powerful person, then the family could have abette rlife financially. In this case, just replace money with ......element powers. Get a child out of Ayano, Kazuma would have to marry her and then the Kannagis would have a very powerful trump card.

But Kazuma could always kill Ayano if she got pregnant as well.
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Old 2007-08-03, 12:33   Link #2159
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history and present day dont mix...if you look ayano is clearly not the type to remain silent if love was forced upon her...they types of women who would be silent in the case of an arranged marriage would be the likes of misao (but she is a nun now )
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Old 2007-08-03, 12:36   Link #2160
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Throwing away Misao may have been a bad move, come to think of it.

Sure, she's not Ayano, but she is a (branch) Kannagi, so if Kazuma married her, they'd still win. Unless Juugo really hopes for a Fire & Wind user, it might have been a better solution.
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