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Old 2007-05-30, 15:42   Link #1201
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That's not the preview, that's the second ending theme. It was back in episode 3, too. XD Guess they were trying to appease all the lolicons out there...
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Old 2007-05-30, 16:24   Link #1202
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oh crap youre right XD thats what i get for trying to type during the end songs *lolicon urges rising*
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Old 2007-05-30, 17:00   Link #1203
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Haha yeah just the second ending. Though have to agree it's a nice image. This episode should be fun, can't wait to see it.
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Old 2007-05-30, 17:34   Link #1204
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Ayano was a lot more "moe" back then, I guess.
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Old 2007-05-30, 19:58   Link #1205
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Though there are some poeple who are more biased than others, following blindly first impressions no matter what.


P.S. On the side note - I think it takes great maturity to like such characters as Shinji from Evangelion..Usually immature poeple who are rushing with their judgements scream how terrible and wimpy he is, and fail to notice that behind their narcisstic self-image (that would be opposite to Shinji) they are Shinji's for the bigger time they spend in social interaction.

Yeah, Shinji was bit extreme, but still the siilarities between his actions and our ordinary social life is quite striking. I think it needs quite a bit of maturity to be able admit it and some introspection to notice and to connect to that, in many ways
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Old 2007-05-30, 21:18   Link #1206
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oh she will grow up...but that doesnt mean that her flame is reduced...it just means that it will take more that some cheap words to set her off again

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Gah...I just had flashes from La Corda after clicking that XD The screens look interesting needless to say
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Old 2007-05-30, 21:36   Link #1207
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Wrong! I like Shinn. If anything else, he is one of the most human-like characters in GSD. The one creature i hate from that show is Kira.
I like Shinn too. Though I like Kira better. The only guy I didn't like was Athrun.

Yes, contrary to popular belief, people can like both Shinn and Kira. It's just a matter of perspective at looking. Go check out 4Tran, me and wingdarkness's legendary bantering at the Gundam thread for examples...long examples.

As far as I'm concerned in the case of KnS... what matters most to me is character dynamics that work to character development. Ayano brings out the "under-side" of Kazuma that makes him look better than just a confident badass just as Kazuma brings out the side of Ayano that is entertaining, but at the same time showing signs of development on both front. It's less so for Kazume at the moment, but guys with sad, emo past is hard to break.

If Ayano isn't there, Kazuma would be boring as there would only be the occasional emo-tsundere-Kazuma from his father and the ahh~Soushu understands Kazuma and the Ren-Kazuma oniichan thing, all of which are more boring that Kazuma-Ayano.

It's like saying Guts is awesome because he's so GAR, but without that oh-so-perfect Griffith, Guts come across less interesting in the long run of things.
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Old 2007-05-30, 21:47   Link #1208
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I like Shinn too. Though I like Kira better. The only guy I didn't like was Athrun.

Yes, contrary to popular belief, people can like both Shinn and Kira. It's just a matter of perspective at looking. Go check out 4Tran, me and wingdarkness's legendary bantering at the Gundam thread for examples...long examples.

As far as I'm concerned in the case of KnS... what matters most to me is character dynamics that work to character development. Ayano brings out the "under-side" of Kazuma that makes him look better than just a confident badass just as Kazuma brings out the side of Ayano that is entertaining, but at the same time showing signs of development on both front. It's less so for Kazume at the moment, but guys with sad, emo past is hard to break.

If Ayano isn't there, Kazuma would be boring as there would only be the occasional emo-tsundere-Kazuma from his father and the ahh~Soushu understands Kazuma and the Ren-Kazuma oniichan thing, all of which are more boring that Kazuma-Ayano.

It's like saying Guts is awesome because he's so GAR, but without that oh-so-perfect Griffith, Guts come across less interesting in the long run of things.
I'm all about the GAR. Don't need drama in an action series. Just in a drama series.
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Old 2007-05-30, 22:10   Link #1209
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Yes, without Ayano Kazuma would not be really as cool as he is, or even if he would he would get boring rather soon enough.

Its always fun to watch his and ayanos talks and fights with each other, where he can really shine with his witty or sarcastic comebacks...

Lets face it - without Ayano-Kazuma this show would loose quite a big part of its charm, specially considering how "great" action scenes look.

P.S. justinstrife, I didnt had you in mind when I was writting the comments of mine. Even if I dont agree with some points of your attitude, it doesnt mean that I am making each of my comments just to mock you.

Yet, I stilll believe, that the poeple who screa their hatred for shinji are more or less screaming their hatred to themselves... Since we are all better opinion about ourselves than we really are, thus in respect to such an image of oneself the Shinji's character might seem almost like an insult. It takes quite a bit of maturity to understand Shinji, though to like him you would need to have some emotional connections with this character.

Sad as it is but Shinji is probably the most true fictional character that represent the social reality of our time. And I would disagree about the comment of him not having character development. he does, its juts that his character development is hidden behind the character deconstruction in Anno's style.
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Old 2007-05-30, 22:24   Link #1210
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Old news, guys... foil.

So what's up with
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Yet, I stilll believe, that the poeple who screa their hatred for shinji are more or less screaming their hatred to themselves... Since we are all better opinion about ourselves than we really are, thus in respect to such an image of oneself the Shinji's character might seem almost like an insult. It takes quite a bit of maturity to understand Shinji, though to like him you would need to have some emotional connections with this character.

Sad as it is but Shinji is probably the most true fictional character that represent the social reality of our time. And I would disagree about the comment of him not having character development. he does, its juts that his character development is hidden behind the character deconstruction in Anno's style.
What you are actually doing is proclaiming a blanket argumentum ad hominem against everyone who does not agree with your interpretation of Shinji. Not to mention that you are grossly generalizing without any facts to back it up... where is the "generally inflated self-esteem" argument coming from? If anything, my experience with people around my own age often shows a prevalent lack of self-esteem in many cases. And the only insult coming from Shinji is the insult to the viewer who has to watch a
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I meant my comment about Shinji's character development to be sarcastic. Plainly, it did not come across as intended, so I'm at fault there. I do not actually wish to argue for or against him, but I do believe that Evangelion as a whole is grossly overrated. (Meaning, this is a personal belief that I have neither time, wish, nor reason to debate, especially not in the Kaze no Stigma thread )

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Old 2007-05-31, 02:11   Link #1211
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Wrong! I like Shinn. If anything else, he is one of the most human-like characters in GSD. The one creature i hate from that show is Kira.
Sorry dude, but im no Shin fan. Im also not a fan of Kira. I only loved Destiny and Strike Freedom gundam but i never really fond of the pilot. I thought that Shin was too drastic and emotional, he thinks too high over himself then in the end thats everything that matters until somebody has to slap him right out of it. Kira is a goody guy who doesnt want to hurt anybody but then many people have died in the process if he didint try to prevent earlier, he never tries to use reasonable words, he only goes, "stop it" and "i dont want to hurt anybody".

Thats why i think Kazuma is your strict and firm guy who tells people to cut the nonsense straight away which is really cool. I think a character like Shin fits more for a female like Ayano.

Actually i thought Athrun was very good in the series, he and Mu ra Flaga,Hein,Yzack Joule, Elsman and Andrew, including the bad guys, Sting and Auel. I liked them better. I cant forgive Shin for what he did to Auel.

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Old 2007-05-31, 05:25   Link #1212
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Old 2007-05-31, 07:54   Link #1214
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haven't seen this episode yet... itching... waiting for the chinese subs ><
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Old 2007-05-31, 08:36   Link #1217
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Old 2007-05-31, 08:46   Link #1218
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oh, and forget about what I said about the dinner... it's different from what I thought (the one I mentioned was the one in the short story... ><)
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Old 2007-05-31, 08:53   Link #1219
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haven't seen this episode yet... itching... waiting for the chinese subs ><
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Old 2007-05-31, 09:22   Link #1220
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uguu... but that one I posted is the one in the short story... not the 'dinner' in the next episode... ><

sorry for the confusion... and giving false expectations... >_>
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