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Old 2009-10-21, 23:06   Link #3821
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Also, from my observations, we had more posting during Athena-centric chapters than any other time. If you compare the EotW arc, and the folllowing chapters, the post-ratio is about 5-1 (if not even bigger, since this thread barely moved when we went back to the slice-of-life style). Plot does bring discussion.
It also helps that the current chapters have had translations/scanlations.

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Well, she comes from a family of exorcists, and she's part of Mikado's family as well, I believe. She has always seemed to know more than she shows. I guess we'll see in the following chapters.
I'm pretty sure that Isumi isn't part of Mikado's family. She (and her family) were at those social events because her family is loaded, and rich families tend to socialize with each other.
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:14   Link #3822
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I really like hinagiku, but seriously no....regardless of how good a character is once they start hogging attention and lowering the appearance time of other characters (which are also somewhat important) there is a problem. If I was Hata I wouldnt give Hinagiku another spotlight before at least having worked on Maria, Nagi, Ayumu, and hell even Isumi and Sakuya (which is hopefully gonna happen soon). This Athena arc is prob the longest arc in the series so far, but I believe its nearing its end now...I dont expect Athena to continue being the main focus after this (at least not for a while), and if she continues....well we can finally group Athena and Hinagiku as the attention whores of the series.
Again the Hakuou Chairboard and President combo?

Well...i won't deny it for sure should be interesting...but i think Athena take things TOO serious...i bet there isn't one person in the world who never made a Joke his entire life...even in the EotW arc she didn't make any jokes...(ok, she at least smiled), but man, seriously, take things a little more funny(i know the right moment there wasn't time for jokes - but when she asked if Hayata sweettalk every girl he met - there's a space for one joke or two) =)

If there's a Isumi and Sakuya arc then it would probably something about their familys (since there's no info on what happened to Sakuya's real father/mother - Isumi's connection with Mikado/She learning someother exorcisms maybe Oo)...

Meaning Mikado remembered me of something...where is Gilbert (Aniki) and Lyn Legioster(or Ryn Regioster - dont know)?? They were so funny

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She'll remain 17 forever.
It can't be like that...if it's going to show Hayate's Birthday then it has to show Maria's too, and if there will be another Christmas, it DEFINITELY has to show Maria's...(since its just one day diference...)
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:14   Link #3823
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It also helps that the current chapters have had translations/scanlations.
Indeed, that's why I was mainly comparing the EotW arc with the following chapters. Even before McDonalds had released their scanlations, we already had some pages of spoiler discussion.

But yeah, I guess we'll be able to establish a better comparison once this arc ends, and the story goes back to slice-of-life mode.

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I'm pretty sure that Isumi isn't part of Mikado's family. She (and her family) were at those social events because her family is loaded, and rich families tend to socialize with each other.
Ah... I honestly wasn't sure. I knew Sakuya is part of Mikado's family, but I wasn't so sure about Isumi.

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It can't be like that...if it's going to show Hayate's Birthday then it has to show Maria's too, and if there will be another Christmas, it DEFINITELY has to show Maria's...(since its just one day diference...)
That was just a joke... Anyway, we'll obviously have to have some chapters for her birthday. Hayate promised her a gift, after all. Hopefully, Hata will give Maria enough focus by then.
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:23   Link #3824
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Ah... I honestly wasn't sure. I knew Sakuya is part of Mikado's family, but I wasn't so sure about Isumi.


That was just a joke... Anyway, we'll obviously have to have some chapters for her birthday. Hayate promised her a gift, after all. Hopefully, Hata will give Maria enough focus by then.
Isumi seems to be just like something more than "family's friend"...

You remembered me of something...coming of birthdays and other things...Hayata's always promising things for everyone...(Hina-Ayumu-Nagi-Maria-Athena-Izumi-Isumi(i'm not totally sure about her) and so...

Well...i wonder how much Hayata would receive from Nagi for be able to slowly pay his debt and still got something for use...
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:27   Link #3825
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Well...i wonder how much Hayata would receive from Nagi for be able to slowly pay his debt and still got something for use...
You mean the watch? That's a present; so, I don't think it'll count as debt.
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:29   Link #3826
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You mean the watch? That's a present; so, I don't think it'll count as debt.
No, not the watch... like i said, he's always promising things to the others...so i was guessing how much ienes he receives from his work as a butler to slowly pay the debt and still have enough to buy present for everyone he promises something, since he's always doing it...
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:35   Link #3827
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Ah... who knows? If you remember, Maria handed him around 1 million yens when Nagi kicked him out. So, he probably receives some good amount of money.
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:38   Link #3828
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Yep, but if you remember well this, he also get quite crazy since it was 1 million for 3 days...and when he was looking for a present for Hina, he declared a cloth of 32.000 yen(dont know if it was 32.000 or 60.000-70.000 yen) "too expensive"

So that made me guess he doesn't receive that much...

And in the white day, just a small bag of cookie (that he acidentally gave it to Maria) made him waste all his money...and because of that he needed Hina's help...

So there's two options:

1) Or he receives a good amount and a good part of it goes to his debt (90% or more?) and he stays with just a very little part;

2) Or he receives a small amount, a small part of it goes to his debt and he stays with nearby nothing...Oo

Poor Hayate...Mikado and Klaus were right... he seems that will never get any luck with money...
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:43   Link #3829
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Hmm... I had forgot about that. Well, in the end, the point is he does receive some allowance. Now, how much of his pay goes to himself, and how much goes to repays his debt, I wouldn't know. I doubt Nagi cares.
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:43   Link #3830
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Again the Hakuou Chairboard and President combo?
thats the best way to describe them, they will forever conquer anything Hayate no Gotoku! related, be it fan support, or screen time
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:47   Link #3831
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I vaguely remember him mentioning something about he didn't want to receive much allowance due to his debt.
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Old 2009-10-21, 23:58   Link #3832
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I vaguely remember him mentioning something about he didn't want to receive much allowance due to his debt.
If you remember where he mentioned this...please tell me... but i think he sure has bad luck with money... (A VERY poor face, NO ambition, a NORMAL dream (3LDK) and after all always happen something that disappear with his money...)

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thats the best way to describe them, they will forever conquer anything Hayate no Gotoku! related, be it fan support, or screen time
Yeah...there i should agree with you...

Just imagine a fanservice with their both...i think both fans will go crazy

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Hmm... I had forgot about that. Well, in the end, the point is he does receive some allowance. Now, how much of his pay goes to himself, and how much goes to repays his debt, I wouldn't know. I doubt Nagi cares.
For sure Nagi cares, since she latelly thinks that he isn't seeing her as a girl(he never did it), and that probably the debt is the only thing that are making him stay with her... but maybe she really don't care if he's going to run out of money...

(Remember that 10 billion yen is "just only 10 billion yen for her).

She somehow must be one of the most rich people in Japan...(I would be VERY-ULTRA-HIGH happy with 0,1% of her money).
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Old 2009-10-22, 00:04   Link #3833
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If you remember where he mentioned this...please tell me... but i think he sure has bad luck with money... (A VERY poor face, NO ambition, a NORMAL dream (3LDK) and after all always happen something that disappear with his money...)
I think during the White Day arc after he gave the present he bought for Ayumu to Maria and got scolded by Hina.

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Just imagine a fanservice with their both...i think both fans will go crazy
Lol, for some reasons, I don't want a fan service from Athena. It reflects her personality that way.
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Old 2009-10-22, 00:08   Link #3834
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I think during the White Day arc after he gave the present he bought for Ayumu to Maria and got scolded by Hina.
Well, im going to verify it later since i have the entire Season 1 / Season 2 downloaded here =)

But now im really curious to know how much Hayate receives... based on what he thinks of some prices it sure should be little...

But i guess what will come before the Athena arc...perphaps he will tell Nagi and Maria the whole thing?
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Old 2009-10-22, 00:14   Link #3835
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He does receive very little but due to his debt and to his conscious of not wanting the money for all the Sanzein had done for him, not to lousy payment. At this rate, he will be a butler for the rest of his life...
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Old 2009-10-22, 00:21   Link #3836
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For sure Nagi cares, since she latelly thinks that he isn't seeing her as a girl(he never did it), and that probably the debt is the only thing that are making him stay with her... but maybe she really don't care if he's going to run out of money...
Perhaps, she may have thought about doing something like that in the past, but I don't see her doing something like that now. If she ever realises Hayate doesn't see her as a romantic interest (assuming he never will), I'm sure she'll be sad, but I don't think she'll try to force him to love her, or to keep him only for herself.
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Old 2009-10-22, 00:22   Link #3837
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He does receive very little but due to his debt and to his conscious of not wanting the money for all the Sanzein had done for him, not to lousy payment. At this rate, he will be a butler for the rest of his life...
Well...if that happens i can't say i won't be enjoying it...since his entire day is always full of things that let us enjoy :

1) Amazing Bad Luck (he has a Shinigami on his back?)

2)Misunderstand before misunderstand

3)Comedy around him (just like the Azumamiya and Nonohara or the Trio)
And more things

But, if he will be a butler for the rest of his life, then he could end like Klaus (Chief Butler), and become the superior of another butler...(hum...don't know why but i can't see him doing this)...

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Perhaps, she may have thought about doing something like that in the past, but I don't see her doing something like that now. If she ever realises Hayate doesn't see her as a romantic interest (assuming he never will), I'm sure she'll be sad, but I don't think she'll try to force him to love her, or to keep him only for herself.
I'm not sure about this... what about her saying "Hayate is mine from body,mind and soul"??

Edit: Well, in just 1 hour and 32 minutes we wrote an entire page...a record?Oo
Going sleep now (03:50) - or at least i will try

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Old 2009-10-22, 01:11   Link #3838
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Wow, 5 pages of discussion while I was away. No spoiler as of now, might come out later tonight or tomorrow. For Hayate's salary or allowance, its based on the main factor, his debt. We aren't sure whether Nagi covers the living expenses or the education expenses. Nagi (or was it Maria) said he need to work for 40 years in order to pay for his approximately 150,000,000 , so he approximately receives 3,750,000 or more and not counting on the other factor. If he had to support himself, that would mean he has to extend his debt and receive even less. If he doesn't have the debt, he actually earns more than any other ordinary jobs. With that said, it doesn't really matter if Hayate has any money since Nagi will buy whatever Hayate wants if he asks her.
Here's some info from Hata's diary on chapter 245, I'll list the potential interesting parts.
Volume 21's omake has Klaus and Yukariko's backstory.
Spoiler for Hata's diary on chapter 245:

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Old 2009-10-22, 02:26   Link #3839
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I Finally manage to get a pc.

Wow, already 192

Hey, is everybody already sleeping??

its funny cause it is afternoon and raining in here

So, Whats up with Hayate currently??
Really, is wheres the reply. I work so hard to get a pc and now this!!

NOOOOOOOO. I'm ALL ALONE KYAAAAAAA (for now)

BTW, Rah
Nice SPOILER
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Old 2009-10-22, 03:52   Link #3840
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Spoiler:
戦力 = war potential

In this situation, he's basically saying we can expect a grand battle.
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