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Old 2009-10-23, 21:42   Link #3921
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Well, keep on saying it then, cause we can't decide when the magazine will be released and they are always out on Wednesdays in Japan.
Some chapters are missing probably cause there was no RAW for them. I read all the chapters to date and from chapter 174-177 were just one chapter comedies.
Yep, 174-177 are just comedies, i got the volume RAW.
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Old 2009-10-23, 21:43   Link #3922
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Well, keep on saying it then, cause we can't decide when the magazine will be released and they are always out on Wednesdays in Japan.
Some chapters are missing probably cause there was no RAW for them. I read all the chapters to date and from chapter 174-177 were just one chapter comedies.
Where did you read the chapter 174-177?? I also want to read they too, more now that you told me that they were comedies...

I know the magazine is always released on Wednessdays... but it takes too long for release...(especially when you're waiting them - looks like 1 month at least)...

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Because they have an affinity for Athena's arc. It's simply too awesome.

I think most or all the Raw are on Mangahelper including the chapters before tEotW arc.
I didn't think its because of Athena's arc... you see...in chapter 230 it wasn't in Athena's arc yet, and they didn't put out the missing chapters... (you probably will say that's because they were in a hurry to start Athena's arc)... i guess there's no need to discuss about it... i think they have their own reason...but i still want the missing ones...

For some reason i can't find the chapter i want on the Mangahelper
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Old 2009-10-23, 21:55   Link #3923
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I didn't think its because of Athena's arc... you see...in chapter 230 it wasn't in Athena's arc yet, and they didn't put out the missing chapters... (you probably will say that's because they were in a hurry to start Athena's arc)... i guess there's no need to discuss about it... i think they have their own reason...but i still want the missing ones...

For some reason i can't find the chapter i want on the Mangahelper
That's my hypothesis...
Athena's arc began on chapter 178 which the translations and scanlations skipped numerous chapters (lots) and began from there. Personally, I was surprised with the huge chunk of non-scanlations in the middle when I first began reading tEoTW arc.

I step upon some sites that believed the same thing. Even in a Vietnamese website, there is someone started to translate HnG from English to Vietnamese due to Athena.
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Old 2009-10-23, 21:59   Link #3924
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Where did you read the chapter 174-177?? I also want to read they too, more now that you told me that they were comedies...
I can read the Chinese scanlations which are 100% up to date and also the RAW. That's where I read these chapters.
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Old 2009-10-23, 22:07   Link #3925
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Well, as i can see on Mangafox, they're slowly releasing some missing chapters...i guess that i will need to wait that too... but now back to the EotW arc... there Midas fully come out...with entire body... so which means he was inside that coffin or inside Athena and fully come out? I'm lost here...
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Old 2009-10-23, 23:37   Link #3926
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midas with atthena in EoTw ,so , he was inside of athena or inside the castle (coffin, etc), but as now he appear together with athena. then he is inside of athena...
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Old 2009-10-24, 00:23   Link #3927
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Yea, in this chapter i know, i just wanted to know in the EotW, since it appeared completly, but even now his hand looked much more big than before... that coffin sure is weird...
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Old 2009-10-24, 01:12   Link #3928
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in Eotw,midas appears in the back of athena and appears complete
.. the coffin, uhhh, that this only trembled at the time of the fight between athena and hayate..sure is weird, but nothing more is explained, and also, midas , attacks hayate, but nothing like now, was more like a ilusion. but yes , he appears completly in the past,but like a ilusion, and . i think that he grows with the time or , bad feelings ?.....

itīs just my teory, but midas was all the time, inside athena, the coffin, have to be the royal powers, and can bring life again, or make wish true.... i do not know if that was your question (about if midas appear complete in the past)
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Old 2009-10-24, 06:33   Link #3929
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hey I got something to say
you guys said that the RG is the place to suppress Midas but what if RG actually increase Midas power
second thing, where can I actually read the translated chapter for the missing chapter
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Old 2009-10-24, 13:31   Link #3930
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No, i think Midas only want to go there because he's too greedy, and maybe that coffin is for supress him, since Athena told Hayate to don't touch it...(with a weird face)..

Second thing, if i knew it i probably won't be diying there and won't be getting mad everyday...
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Old 2009-10-24, 16:43   Link #3931
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Spoiler for don't peek..just my Opinion:
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Old 2009-10-24, 17:20   Link #3932
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Athena was locked out of the RG a short while after Hayate left. She also said that she was searching for him all this time (bullshit). So basically the mirror has nothing to do with him. Though, now I want Athena(Midas) and Maria to meet...

Maria was found...
What if she's the daughter of Midas? On his BIO page it's stated that he has a daughter, and the mirror displays only the people that you know. How long was Athena possessed by Midas? Would it work in this case if it was displaying someone that Midas knows, if he was possessing her before she met Hayate? Hmmmm...


**Why would he need to possess her while in the RG, though? Why does he need to go back? If he was possessing her since the RG, and is doing the same now, why did he do it back then? ........ It's likely that he really is in that coffin. Perhaps sealed inside? Perhaps the seal weakened a little by the strong emotions of the two when they were arguing, and he was able to possess / influence Athena. And since it was a long time that he was sealed it was fun to toy around with them... The path closing was totally unexpected. I guess he stayed with Athena for the fun, or.... heh, who knows?**

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Mikado has no hold over the RG since it's in a different dimension / magically sealed, whatever...

Hakuo land is split between the most wealthy families.

Athena didn't seal the path.


I thought that Athena realized she needs to go to the RG to get rid of Midas, or perhaps she's completely under his control? Midas said it himself that he wants to go back there. Perhaps he made a deal with her? Get me to the RG, and I'll leave your body. Or something like that....

Heh, it's possible...
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Old 2009-10-24, 17:37   Link #3933
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Rah, are you saying that Maria would be Midas's daughter??? And since Maria's face appeared on the God's Eye Mirror that means that Midas/Athena knows her?

Well, it's true that nothing is know about Maria's past... but i guess she beign Midas's daughter is a little too...ridiculous? Even if it was true, Maria seems to be had abandoned on the Christmas Eve... why would Midas (if she's really his daughter) abandon her?? Also Midas lived a long time ago, and i don't believe he time-travelled or something like that... but i guess Midas just want to go back to RG by greed, even if that coffin can be the seal for his soul...

And about Athena... she seemed to be in a hurry on the need to open the RG (when she felt pain on the stormatch or somewhere like), i guess it would be to seal Midas there, which makes me thinks more about that coffin and about it beign the place where she must go to seal him...
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Old 2009-10-24, 17:38   Link #3934
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It stands to reason that Midas' power may be linked to the coffin in the Royal Garden. Athena may have stopped Hayate from touching it because it would have resulted in him being cursed, perhaps with Mida's spirit like her. It's only speculation but it would explain why she was so deadly serious about it, something that dangerous definitely should not be in Hayate's hands.

I doubt that Athena still has the God's Eye Mirror to scry for Hayate, it seemed that she was using non-magical methods to locate him. She only knew about the full situation with Nagi and his parents by asking Aika when he was accepted into Hakuo Academy.

While I'm sure that Athena may have been a little depressed about not being able to help Hayate, I think that she doesn't have much reason to complain about what he said. The simple fact is that, even though she wanted to find him and help him, she did not. She was unable to find him somehow and it was Nagi's kindness that saved his life. Personally, if she really wanted to help him she would have called freakin' social services on his deadbeat parents (actually, this also applies to Ayumu, his other classmates, and his teachers as well). Hayate obviously never would (he knows it's not in his character, archetype that is) and simply never trusted them after the mess with Athena, but somebody should have done something at least! I don't know what Athena's resources were at the time, but I still feel that she had no rational reason to get that worked up over a single phrase from Hayate. Then again, it may go to show the fragile state she is in right now, I guess we can't know just yet.

Damn, no I really want them to kick Midas' ass so that we can get some answers.
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Old 2009-10-24, 17:58   Link #3935
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Teleutao, are you sure you were reading HnG? Because Athena did not complain or got angry at Hayate but only felt depress about his statements.

She did wanted to find him for the last 10 years but she can not due to whatever the circumstances may be. It doesn't matter how illogical you think it may be, but it is a "fact."

If you feel that Athena has no rational reasons to be depressed about his statement after 10 years of everything that happened between them, I'd find it very amusing if you believed that Hinagiku was rational enough to be angry at Hayate for being late to her birthday party which happened in a couple of days.

I don't think your being rational here.


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OMG, OMG, OMG, How dare Athena die like that. It's a shame that she can't even survive an impale by the sword, she deserved it.

HAYATE WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU? HOW DARE YOU STEP ON HINAGIKU's FOOT? HOW DARE YOU HURT HER? You *****

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Old 2009-10-24, 18:18   Link #3936
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Athena is insane.

All she needed to do to find him was to get a list of all the students in every school in Japan. They were apart for 10 years, and it's impossible to say that he wasn't registered in a school when she tried that option (if she did...), because she could simply check every month or so.


As for Maria being the daughter of Midas...


Why do you think that it's absurd, Mr. Himegami? Midas HAS a daughter.


I see no one except Athena or Maria that could fit as his daughter, due to OBVIOUS circumstances (people have parents n' shit, ykno...).

Unless it's someone not introduced yet, or perhaps irrelevant to the story.


Everything is revolving around Midas now. Well, since 10 years ago actually, because he tore them apart, and because of those events things are as they are now. The daughter part probably isn't irrelevant, I take that back..

It would be quite a twist if Isumi beat him, but at the last moment he possessed Maria, took Hayate's gem, and kidnapped Nagi to the RG. FUCK YEAH! RESCUE ARC! KUBBBOOOOOO!!

Hahahaha!



Oh yeah, don't ask how he possesses Maria, or how he takes Hayate's gem while not in a corporal form.


Wait........ he's a giant fucking skeleton! ..... How's that not corporal?




.............

Ah, screw this. I dunno... >_<
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Old 2009-10-24, 18:22   Link #3937
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Rah, if you want to apply real logical ideas into the world of manga, then ,please, logically explain how Athena and Isumi know magic. (You do not even know her circumstances, please refrain yourself) And like I said, your thoughts , regardless of how rational it may be, are meaningless.
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Old 2009-10-24, 18:57   Link #3938
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Sure. I'll use a prettier word. THE B**CH IS CRAZY, YO!

Lol.


What's illogical about her checking every school? She said that she searched for him, but couldn't find him. I said that it's BS with all her money. Let's say that she tried finding him after 9 years. At that time he was still working part time, and going to school. Come now, it doesn't make any sense. Hata needs to clarify things, or take it back that she searched for him.

Explain it to me then so I may understand. With your superior "manga logic" of course. I'll be satisfied with even a retarded answer, like: Hayate's misfortune prevented her from finding him, or Midas interfered every time by taking over, canceling and searches in progress, discarding any reports, or his sightings, yadda, yadda....

Oh, I explained nicely there already. Guess you don't need to add anything. Wooo! Go me! Self owned with retarded answer! Mwuahaha!


Yeah, don't need to think much with silly mangas~

*derp mode engaged*

HURRRR!!
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Old 2009-10-24, 19:10   Link #3939
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Sure. I'll use a prettier word. THE B**CH IS CRAZY, YO!

Lol.


What's illogical about her checking every school? She said that she searched for him, but couldn't find him. I said that it's BS with all her money. Let's say that she tried finding him after 9 years. At that time he was still working part time, and going to school. Come now, it doesn't make any sense. Hata needs to clarify things, or take it back that she searched for him.

Explain it to me then so I may understand. With your superior "manga logic" of course. I'll be satisfied with even a retarded answer, like: Hayate's misfortune prevented her from finding him, or Midas interfered every time by taking over, canceling and searches in progress, discarding any reports, or his sightings, yadda, yadda....

Oh, I explained nicely there already. Guess you don't need to add anything. Wooo! Go me!


Yeah, don't need to think much with silly mangas~

*derp mode engaged*

HURRRR!!
I guess, the word "crazy" and "bit*c" is too complicated for you to understand, or is it that you find Athena's personality too difficult to understand? Or is it you blurred it out like a madman? Sorry, but it is really sad.

Second, like I said if you want to use "logically" values to apply to the world of manga, then please, explained to me "logically" HOW THE HELL DOES ATHENA and ISUMI know magic?

Third, did you not understand when I stated, "if you want to apply real logical ideas into the world of manga" which means I ACCEPTED that your idea is logical. However, in the un-realistic world of manga, something illogical CAN OCCURRED NATURALLY. Like magic, Hayate's indestructible body, the Royal Garden. It is illogical for Athena to not be able to find Hayate, BUT it is fact that she WANTED and DID try to find him.

Honestly, please, show some respects for yourself and respects others' character.
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Old 2009-10-24, 19:12   Link #3940
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How about we move on from this and discuss why Midas King would be called a Heroic Spirit if he's trying to kill someone.
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