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Old 2009-11-06, 21:23   Link #4421
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You really think that'll happen? Destroying the stone means destroying a good story for Hata to use and disappointing Japanese fans who expects more battles.
Of course, the stone won't be destroyed, not right now anyway. It will be sooner or later.
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Old 2009-11-06, 21:29   Link #4422
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there is also kill mikado now, receive inheritance and gave stone to Athena.
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Old 2009-11-06, 21:33   Link #4423
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Or Hayate can always get a miraculous power-up that allows him to face Midas and Machina.
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Old 2009-11-06, 21:42   Link #4424
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Or Hayate can always get a miraculous power-up that allows him to face Midas and Machina.
Don't you think that the main character receives a major power up to defeat the villain is overused? I'll prefer a more unique way for Hayate to defeat Midas King.
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Old 2009-11-06, 21:45   Link #4425
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Don't you think that the main character receives a major power up to defeat the villain is overused? I'll prefer a more unique way for Hayate to defeat Midas King.
Yes, but as I've said before, I'm not really expecting strategy or battle tactics being used in this manga. Isumi already showed her cards; so, unless she's testing Hayate, I think that's the only plan she could think about.

So, between some corny scene and some good battle scene, I'll take the latter any day, any time.
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Old 2009-11-06, 22:04   Link #4426
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this is no bleach, there is no power-up, for each 3 chapters... hayate , just need to destroy that stone , damit, just save athena , nagi can live a good live without the stone, but a power-up ,really sound good XD.
men, the history is getting better XD.. good work, hata !! if midas, change host, that would give a new way.
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Old 2009-11-06, 22:22   Link #4427
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The spirit and the snake are being supplied with limitless power, and they're so much stronger it's scary.
Guesses that Athena has the ability to push them to their maximum power.
Isumi: 'If we don't at least separate the spirit from the Chief President... no matter how many times we fight them, we have no chance of wining.


This makes me wonder...Why does Isumi wants "the chance to win" even after she were to successfully separated the spirit from Athena? Why does she still want to fight after separating the spirit? Unless the separating spirit only refer to the "physical skeleton" itself while Athena is still possessed by the "mind" of the spirit.


But the "breaking the connections" seems to refer to the "mind" of the spirit which to drive that monster away from Athena's mind...Need more information...
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Old 2009-11-06, 22:34   Link #4428
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Perhaps, it's possible to fight Midas in its physical form? Isumi said they (Midas and Machina) are being supplied with limitless energy; so, I think Isumi wants to take that limitless supply from them, before fighting again.
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Old 2009-11-06, 22:40   Link #4429
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I thought the Skeleton is Midas' physical form.

And the limitless supplies of power is from Athena which most likely is one of Athena's powers that Midas used to make Machina and the Skeleton unbeatable. (Witche Hunter anyone?)
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Old 2009-11-06, 22:58   Link #4430
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I know, my point is that Midas' physical form won't manifest itself unless Athena's mind is disturbed. So, if you sever their connection it may be possible to fight Midas in its physical form, and he wouldn't have this endless supply of energy he seems to get from Athena.
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Old 2009-11-06, 23:00   Link #4431
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Hell no, that skeleton is just a imagiantiona form from the power he got from Athena, perharps . . .
That's why Isumi said they need to separate them . . .
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Old 2009-11-06, 23:06   Link #4432
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I know, my point is that Midas' physical form won't manifest itself unless Athena's mind is disturbed. So, if you sever their connection it may be possible to fight Midas in its physical form, and he wouldn't have this endless supply of energy he seems to get from Athena.
So you mean that by separating the connection, Midas' mind goes back to his physical form, the Skeleton, and he can control himself in that form? It's plausible,very logical, although I doubt it.
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Old 2009-11-06, 23:37   Link #4433
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I know, my point is that Midas' physical form won't manifest itself unless Athena's mind is disturbed. So, if you sever their connection it may be possible to fight Midas in its physical form, and he wouldn't have this endless supply of energy he seems to get from Athena.
quick question... if they they managed cut the connection between midas and athena wouldn't that hurt her soul(her very soul) or cause her insanity at same time?

just trying to catch up with the topic here

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Old 2009-11-06, 23:47   Link #4434
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quick question... if they they managed cut the connection between midas and athena wouldn't that hurt her soul(her very soul) or cause her insanity at same time?

just trying to catch up with the topic here
From the spoilers, it seems that if the connection isn't destroyed beforehand, then removing Midas from Athena could ultimately damage her soul.
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Old 2009-11-06, 23:56   Link #4435
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From the spoilers, it seems that if the connection isn't destroyed beforehand, then removing Midas from Athena could ultimately damage her soul.
so basically, they can save athena right? if so, what are the chances? you can guess if u want...
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Old 2009-11-07, 00:28   Link #4436
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I think Athena bounds to be save by Hayate, sooner or later, unless she dies, and I will deem Hayate as the most hated male protagonist ever for his incompetent (unless he suicides).

Rather than thinking about it, I'd prefer wondering about Hayate's decision right now, and what he will do. Which I have no clue regarding what Hata is thinking.
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Old 2009-11-07, 00:35   Link #4437
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Rather than thinking about it, I'd prefer wondering about Hayate's decision right now, and what he will do. Which I have no clue regarding what Hata is thinking.
Didn't he reluctantly reject the idea to forcefully seperate Midas King and Athena without breaking the connection? He wants to find a way to both break the connection and not lose the stone since he promised Nagi he wouldn't let her lose her inheritance. He's bound to attempt to break that connection himself, since he blames himself as the cause for Midas King's attachment on Athena.

Edit: Read the RAW spoilers again. This line said by Isumi, 症状もきっとそれに関连して、最近加速度的に悪化したのではないかと, Athena's conditions have been worsening very quickly recently compared to before. Does that mean she already knew Midas King was attached to Athena before this battle?

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Old 2009-11-07, 00:48   Link #4438
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Didn't he reluctantly reject the idea to forcefully seperate Midas King and Athena without breaking the connection? He wants to find a way to both break the connection and not lose the stone since he promised Nagi he wouldn't let her lose her inheritance. He's bound to attempt to break that connection himself, since he blames himself as the cause for Midas King's attachment on Athena.
Yes, he did. But it's difficult to break the connection without destroying the stone.

The only other way to break the connection is to give the stone to Midas but the chance of them succeed in obtaining victory, after doing so, is 0.1% which ultimately may lead to "the End of the World." Btw, I love "the End of the World," no seriously, I really do.

Decision, decision, decision...

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Athena's conditions have been worsening very quickly recently compared to before. Does that mean she already knew Midas King was attached to Athena?
It sounds like it.
That's weird considering Isumi just mentioned, on the last chapter, that a spirit of that level can not possess Athena.
Great, why do you have to say that Hata?

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Old 2009-11-07, 02:42   Link #4439
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call kamijyo touma he'll definitely do something about midas... but then again this isn't TAMNI
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Old 2009-11-07, 08:37   Link #4440
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There's also a 99.9% chance that Hayate would be so stubborn to the point of stupidity, with promises such as the "I will never lose the stone ever again" hardwired to his head.

Let me see Hayate struggle with their decisions.

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So what do you guys listen on to when reading a typical manga such as HnG?

I usually just listen to something when on a serious chapter, if it's tragic / emotional, I'll play Friend of the Night by Mogwai (rethinking about it, heck it fits to anything bloody tragic).
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