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Old 2010-04-01, 19:13   Link #6621
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Well, if the camera version comes out, that's really all that matters to me. I was just thinking that since chapter 266 discussion started on March 26th, maybe we'd find out about 267 tomorrow.
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Old 2010-04-01, 19:17   Link #6622
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*ahem*

If I didn't misunderstand, 267 won't be coming out this week! Instead of it, we'll see some extra chapter (like those "Limited!" ones you can read on O**M****). Perhaps you already saw a spoiler pic of it last week (Sakuya bathing, and Hayate in the background saying something...)

Oh, and I'll use Used Can's post to answer you, Mr. Mad Scientist-san~

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Honestly guys, I really don't see why you've got to do this thing almost every week. Your arguments go basically this way:

A: I don't like your character.
B: OMG, why don't you like my character?
A: OMG, why don't you dislike that character the same way I do?
B: Why don't you like that character the way I do?!!

Ad infinitum

Honestly, cannot you guys just agree to disagree? Fuck, it shames me to think I used to be part of this argument.
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Hopefully we're done with that for a while, but since there's a possibility that a new chapter won't be coming out this week... well... hahaha... who knows? ^___^


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Don't worry about all these posts. It's just me bringing back the Christmas CHEER!! *raises knife in hand high in the air; the sunlight reflects from it blinding everyone, and then only silence remains*

Yay! Everyone is happy now!
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Old 2010-04-01, 19:18   Link #6623
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*ahem*

If I didn't misunderstand, 267 won't be coming out this week! Instead of it, we'll see some extra chapter (like those "Limited!" ones you can read on O**M****)
Interesting. I never really got the gags in the Limited! chapters anyhow though =/

Btw, don't mention O**M****
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Old 2010-04-01, 19:21   Link #6624
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If I didn't misunderstand, 267 won't be coming out this week! Instead of it, we'll see some extra chapter (like those "Limited!" ones you can read on O**M****). Perhaps you already saw a spoiler pic of it last week (Sakuya bathing, and Hayate in the background saying something...)
Lot of people were complaining in other forums that Hata couldn't depict Nagi in a penniless state and that's why he's using those extra chapters to buy more time.
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@KK13

Don't worry about all these posts. It's just me bringing back the Christmas CHEER!! *raises knife in hand high in the air; the sunlight reflects from it blinding everyone, and then only silence remains*
You would've thought they would've dropped it after filling up at least 5 pages with that argument. So has it been finalized yet?
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Interesting. I never really got the gags in the Limited! chapters anyhow though =/
Most of those gags required some knowledge on Japanese culture and word tricks.

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Old 2010-04-01, 20:27   Link #6625
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Honestly, cannot you guys just agree to disagree?
Because that's no fun? o3o

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Spoiler for Clicky~:


Notice where the text is? Over Nagi it's who he wants to protect the most, and over Athena who he cares for the most. Well... it's still rather.. inconclusive.. perhaps..?
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I dunno, looks like 'most important' ended up with Nagi as well.

@ most everything else: tl;dr

Anyway, you guys seem determined to declare this discussion over, even thought I put all this work into coming up with a long and insightful(?) post.... well, I'll spoilertag it, so you can ignore it if you want (:

Spoiler for La:
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Old 2010-04-01, 20:47   Link #6626
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For future developments, Nagi mentioned something about ruining Mikado's plans when she destroyed the stone.
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Old 2010-04-01, 20:53   Link #6627
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I'm not a mad scientist, wtf

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Lot of people were complaining in other forums that Hata couldn't depict Nagi in a penniless state and that's why he's using those extra chapters to buy more time.
What

does this mean

I think Hata's a plenty skilled enough writer to depict just about damn near anything he wants.
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Old 2010-04-01, 21:22   Link #6628
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I think Hata's a plenty skilled enough writer to depict just about damn near anything he wants.
I don't know. He's kind of treading a thin line after all the controversy caused by the EoTW arc. I wouldn't call him a literary genius either, he should be able to do whatever he wants because it was/is a gag/comedy, but that's sort of changed a little now.
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Old 2010-04-01, 22:12   Link #6629
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Because that's no fun? o3o



Spoiler for Nope:

I dunno, looks like 'most important' ended up with Nagi as well.

@ most everything else: tl;dr

Anyway, you guys seem determined to declare this discussion over, even thought I put all this work into coming up with a long and insightful(?) post.... well, I'll spoilertag it, so you can ignore it if you want (:

Spoiler for La:
i wonder who would be more important to a *normal* person- a girl who saved him 10 years ago, taught him many things, and whom he loved, who kicked him out due to his own retardedness, as compared to a girl he tried and failed to kidnap, then saved and being saved in turn, resulting in the desire to protect her.
The choice is obvious to me. But hayate's a retard so whatever choice he makes is easily justified.

U did realize a-tan was thinking of clinging to him and crying to change his mind, which meant that she knew he would probably change his mind if she did so, because he still had strong feelings for her. That is why she wore the ring he gave her to show that she accepts his feelings. She only wanted hayate to go back to nagi for the time being to repay her for breaking the stone, and also because it would be too sudden and would put him in a tough situation if she asked him to go with her right now. A-tan is smart-she obviously thinks that with time, hayate would be happier with her, and would be less guilty about 'breaking up' with nagi. Hence the choice of words "giving him back for now" because he would be happier with nagi and his circle of friends for now.It also seemed to me that she referred to him as 'that' because she didnt want nagi to know about her and hayate for the time being.
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Old 2010-04-01, 22:26   Link #6630
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i wonder who would be more important to a *normal* person- a girl who saved him 10 years ago, taught him many things, and whom he loved, who kicked him out due to his own retardedness, as compared to a girl he tried and failed to kidnap, then saved and being saved in turn, resulting in the desire to protect her.
The choice is obvious to me. But hayate's a retard so whatever choice he makes is easily justified.
I find it interesting that you think this is such a clear-cut choice. I mean, I don't even remember anyone I knew when I was 6, really, outside of family. I can't really be arsed to care much about crushes I had even 5-6 years ago either, much less 10.

More people prefer to live in the present then chasing ghosts from the past, I would wager, and there's nothing stupid about that.

I don't see how being kicked out was all Hayate's fault, either, but I'm pretty sure that's a discussion that will turn ugly fast.
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Old 2010-04-01, 22:35   Link #6631
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I find it interesting that you think this is such a clear-cut choice. I mean, I don't even remember anyone I knew when I was 6, really, outside of family. I can't really be arsed to care much about crushes I had even 5-6 years ago either, much less 10.

Most people prefer to live in the present then chasing ghosts from the past, I would wager, and there's nothing stupid about that.

I don't see how being kicked out was all Hayate's fault, either, but I'm pretty sure that's a discussion that will turn ugly fast.
Considering how many manga run on tropes like that (about toy shipping et al), this series shouldn't be criticized for doing similar, especially since it didn't make pretensions for realism in the first place.
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Old 2010-04-01, 22:46   Link #6632
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Like Nagi said, "Don't mix manga with reality."
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Old 2010-04-01, 22:49   Link #6633
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Considering how many manga run on tropes like that (about toy shipping et al), this series shouldn't be criticized for doing similar, especially since it didn't make pretensions for realism in the first place.
Oh I know it's a common trope, and I'm not particularly picking on this series for that, although it really is a story device that does nothing for me. I just thought it was a little strange to see someone make such a big deal of it. (That is, I don't think I've ever seen anyone say "Dude, obviously you go with the girl from 10 years ago" before.) *shrug*

I think the trope gets subverted more often then not these days, though. Lots more crazy yandere "childhood friends" then destined lovers from what I've seen.
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Old 2010-04-01, 23:38   Link #6634
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If it's affections, it isn't false to claim that Hayate's toward Athena is greater than Nagi due to what had happened between them. And with more affections, it's not strange to consider with more 'care.'

Even if you think it's some "crazy yandere childhood friend," Hata already labeled Athena as "Hayate's first lover." I guess I'd rather trust the mangaka. ^^
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Old 2010-04-01, 23:41   Link #6635
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Even if you think it's some "crazy yandere childhood friend," Hata already labeled Athena as "Hayate's first lover." I guess I'd rather trust the mangaka. ^^
Lies! This is the internet! Random, anonymous posters always know the intention of someone else better than said person!
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Old 2010-04-01, 23:45   Link #6636
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Lies! This is the internet! Random, anonymous posters always know the intention of someone else better than said person!
I don't know whether you're being sacrastic or not, but it's the left caption on chapter 218, I think.

Here's the link: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hayate...t_butler/c218/
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Old 2010-04-01, 23:55   Link #6637
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I don't know whether you're being sacrastic or not, but it's the left caption on chapter 218, I think.
I was obviously being sarcastic. Reread my comment again. I don't see how it's possible for anyone to say what I said and actually mean it.
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Old 2010-04-01, 23:55   Link #6638
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yandere childhood friends lol... kaede from shuffle @.@

and what i meant by obvious is with due consideration to the context, as i have explained. not much of a big deal over that.

blehhh im so bored. no new good games, new season of anime is one week later, no hng. life sucks -_-
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Old 2010-04-02, 00:09   Link #6639
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I was obviously being sarcastic. Reread my comment again. I don't see how it's possible for anyone to say what I said and actually mean it.
Ah, sorry, I guess I wasn't confident nor tried to be judgemental since it's someone I can't say I know well. hehe

Ah...Should have noticed the exclamation marks.
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Old 2010-04-02, 00:15   Link #6640
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Not sure where to begin here. But you guys make of an interesting read. And that's not a bad thing by the way Perosnally, in regards to shipping, I do believe that Hata has made it clear which pairing he'd most likely ship Hayate too in the future. I'm am, and believe me when I say this, a Athena fan. As much as I would love Hayate to end up with her, the way the story has been going, seems to point to a Nagi end. With that said, the 'pair-up' won't likely happen until Hata shows an interest in finishing (which won't be a very long time). So even if this is the case, you'll still be able to watch the other wonderful characters chase after Hayate, as well as character development.

This is the fun thing about reading Hayate right? Or maybe that's just me *hides in a corner in hope people won't flame me* Ha-ha. But in regards to the current chapter, I'm quite excited to read about Athena going back to Japan, I wonder what interesting plot devices Hata will use now that Athena won't give up on her feelings. With that said, this context can be described in Hamster's case, who has the stubborn ability to 'never give up' which I adore so much

Hinagiku is also one of my favourite characters - with realising she isn't alone in the quest of conquering love, I believe Ayumu will likely keep pushing her to keep going (in regards to her feelings for Hayate)
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