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Old 2010-12-14, 13:00   Link #7401
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On 2ch, I remember there being a heated discussion around the time of the Athens arc where people were upset because Athena was popular with fangirls and they thought there might be enough of them to upset the popularity poll. For me, Athena falls into a role that's very appealing (and mirrored by a couple of my other favorite characters, Sheryl Nome and Beatrice) in that she's confident, very much in love with the main character, but it feels like she's doing Important Shit on her own time instead of orbiting around the main character and what he does.

I'm not trying to bash on the other characters. As you said, all of them were made to be lovable. I really do like Nagi, Maria, Ayumu, Isumi, and, yes, I do like Hina. It's just that I have a preference for Athena due to those factors. I don't think she's going to end up with Hayate. I don't think she's the main heroine of the series. I just like the series more when she's a part of it.
ditto. im betting on a nagi-ending. (but, an athena one would be very much appreciated )
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Old 2010-12-17, 09:40   Link #7402
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I've really enjoyed the Nagi arc too. I think the main reason we're seeing these developments though is that it doesn't leave much (currently) for Hayate to do. He can't exactly get Nagi published in Shonen Sunday by battling giant robots, after all.

So instead Nagi gets her character development arc and Hayate gets his own subplot dealing with Yozora and now Athena and eventually I wouldn't be surprised at all to see the plot lines merge. At least I hope so. One of my gripes with the manga recently is that Nagi gets left out of the loop entirely too often during serious plot lines. I guess the thinking is that it would ruin her innocence if she learned about Athena/The RG and so on too soon, but eh...it's starting to feel a little forced, and constantly keeping her (And to a lesser extent, Ayumu) in a bubble limits what can be done with them in the long run.
I agree with you -- especially about all the plot threads and how/if they'll be tied together. I really do wonder what Ms. Tennos has to do with Luca and/or Yozora's plan. I hope she wasn't shoehorned in for, uhm, mundane reasons. If she's unrelated, then she just makes the post-Golden Week story lose focus.

On another note, maybe the two of us should play some kind of drinking game that involves all the shipping blahblah around here.
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Old 2010-12-17, 11:55   Link #7403
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On another note, maybe the two of us should play some kind of drinking game that involves all the shipping blahblah around here.
I forsee deaths by alcohol poisoning in the future....
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Old 2010-12-17, 12:40   Link #7404
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I forsee deaths by alcohol poisoning in the future....
I think one would drink themselves to death in the FSN subforum quicker than here.
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Old 2010-12-17, 13:09   Link #7405
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On another note, maybe the two of us should play some kind of drinking game that involves all the shipping blahblah around here.
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I agree with you -- especially about all the plot threads and how/if they'll be tied together. I really do wonder what Ms. Tennos has to do with Luca and/or Yozora's plan. I hope she wasn't shoehorned in for, uhm, mundane reasons. If she's unrelated, then she just makes the post-Golden Week story lose focus.
Well, there's a few things. One, Luca doesn't seem to be just an ordinary Mary Sue, and her Dojinshi focused on a character who one day found himself in a different world. It's not impossible she has her own ties to the Royal Garden.

(I had a bunch more stuff typed up regarding the Kings Jewels and such, but eh, it's all speculation and I'm not in the mood to start arguing about it.)

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Old 2010-12-18, 11:14   Link #7406
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all credits go to barmej (im simply reposting for discussion source)

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damn this hiatus! (but then again it could still be fanmade o.o)
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Old 2010-12-18, 12:36   Link #7407
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it better be fanmade...seriously this kind of crazy plot development would be too much for me to handle, my body is not ready. And I honestly dont think I would like it very much (but i've been proven wrong before)
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Old 2010-12-18, 13:41   Link #7408
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Spoilers are kinda...ugh. One of the the things I liked about how the apartment thing developed was that it wasn't just an excuse for another typical "everyone lives together" harem set up.

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Old 2010-12-18, 15:05   Link #7409
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I actually like that spoiler, it's just too random, and thus, HnGish. I approve.
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Old 2010-12-18, 15:14   Link #7410
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Old 2010-12-18, 15:34   Link #7411
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I'm hoping that it just means that she starts acting like she's in pain and such. Since the characters are all ~16, hopefully they wouldn't have a clue as to what type of noises and actions would go on.
Hina could have the best clue, since she was born 12 years after her sister, and thus might have heard second-hand, but no one else should know.

Except what TV tells us happens, which might be what it's talking about..
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Old 2010-12-18, 17:07   Link #7412
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Maybe Hina just imagined that particular scene.
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Old 2010-12-19, 04:06   Link #7413
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Maybe Hina just imagined that particular scene.
or maybe it was the trio with her imagining stuff
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Old 2010-12-19, 20:41   Link #7414
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or perhaps it all come from hata imagination?
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Old 2010-12-20, 05:12   Link #7415
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Hm.

There are 1-2 details which almost make me believe that the spoiler is genuine. For example Hina smashing Hayate with the sword for trying to remember "when this could have happened". This is exactly the kind of humor that Hata loves to add.

Also, having the story try to have the main characters "move in" to the mansion in Love Hina style. Naturally it's a silly pretext, but it simplifies joint storytelling later, so it kinda would make sense.
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Old 2010-12-20, 11:22   Link #7416
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ヒナギクが子供を産んだと騒ぐ周囲。
ヒナギクは子供を産んだことも
子供を産むような行為をしたこともないとムキになる。
After being called "mama" Hinagiku starts behaving and giving noises like "she was giving birth herself".
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むきになる 《向きになる; 向きに成る》 (exp,v5r) (uk) to become serious; to take something (joke, teasing) seriously; to become irritated or angry (usually at something trivial)
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Old 2010-12-20, 13:48   Link #7417
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Hm.

There are 1-2 details which almost make me believe that the spoiler is genuine. For example Hina smashing Hayate with the sword for trying to remember "when this could have happened". This is exactly the kind of humor that Hata loves to add.

Also, having the story try to have the main characters "move in" to the mansion in Love Hina style. Naturally it's a silly pretext, but it simplifies joint storytelling later, so it kinda would make sense.
Hina-tan's ears also had aspects of running gags within it.

The biggest clue that this isn't in continuity, Nagi was taken out of the issue early on, she wanted to refuse Chiharu a room originally, do we really think she would allow the one she sees as her biggest rival for Hayate's affection (which she believes to be Hinagiku) to move in without a word, and then two others which have questionable motives (Hayate supposedly has a child and the mother isn't her) to move in without any issue?
She is the owner of the building, and would thus be able to choose who to rent the rooms out to. The only way to allow this arc to play out the way we are seeing it is to have taken her out of the story early, and since the major arc currently has her as the focus character, it wouldn't make sense to have her out of play for a major event like this.

I still think this is a holiday/poll celebration arc and when we go back to the story, it'll all go away.
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Old 2010-12-22, 03:36   Link #7418
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The biggest clue that this isn't in continuity, Nagi was taken out of the issue early on, she wanted to refuse Chiharu a room originally, do we really think she would allow the one she sees as her biggest rival for Hayate's affection (which she believes to be Hinagiku) to move in without a word, and then two others which have questionable motives (Hayate supposedly has a child and the mother isn't her) to move in without any issue?
She is the owner of the building, and would thus be able to choose who to rent the rooms out to. The only way to allow this arc to play out the way we are seeing it is to have taken her out of the story early, and since the major arc currently has her as the focus character, it wouldn't make sense to have her out of play for a major event like this.
It is true that Nagi is the owner of the house, but please do not forgot the person that is in charge: Maria (last boss).

Sure both Hina and Nagi need some persuading about the moving in, but the suspense is now on how Hayate is going to overcome such obstacles. I think Hata might have prepared something fun and unexpected. It will be pretty boring if all the setup goes for nothing by a single "NO" from Nagi.
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Old 2010-12-22, 10:07   Link #7419
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woot! Just read 301, hilarious chapter. Especially with Hayate's relentless teasing of Hinagiku.

They finally got a mechanism to put all of Hayate's shipping interests under the same roof, and it only took a *little* magic
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Old 2010-12-22, 10:38   Link #7420
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woot! Just read 301, hilarious chapter. Especially with Hayate's relentless teasing of Hinagiku.

They finally got a mechanism to put all of Hayate's shipping interests under the same roof, and it only took a *little* magic
wow so lucky! *_* too bad scans/complete raws arent out yet.
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