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Old 2011-10-25, 00:35   Link #8501
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If I recall correctly, there is still at least two months left according to Hina in her shoulder message chapter.
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Old 2011-10-26, 03:54   Link #8502
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To be honest, I'd really like them to finally start telling us what happened with Ikusa. Who is Himegami? What secrets the Royal Garden holds exactly and how is Yukariko related to it? How is Maria related to Athena (or why did she see her in that memory device)? Will Maria ever stop being a gag-character? What happened with Yozora and the whole 28th thing and how is Luca related to it?
Who is Ikusa?

I think in last few chapters we are introduced to 2 more new characters. They feels like two new pokemons.
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Old 2011-10-26, 05:43   Link #8503
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^ Ikusa is Hayate's brother.
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Old 2011-11-01, 23:32   Link #8504
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I like the new character they introduced, though shame I can't remember her name.
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Old 2011-11-03, 14:52   Link #8505
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anyone else take it as sign that the Mangaka is running out of ideas when new character keep getting introduce when there is already a huge cast?
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Old 2011-11-03, 17:38   Link #8506
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She's obviously needed to bring this Nagi-centric trillion-sales manga arc to a positive conclusion.

Like I wrote before, I'd really love to know if anybody feels that this arc just REMOTELY reaches the quality of earlier arcs. Especially the author. To me, it is a total disaster, especially since we're about to do it all once more (next Comiket). Meh.

And what frustrates me most is that there isn't even growth and gradual maturing of Nagi, while I'm at the same time convinced that this is supposed to be the overall goal. Maturing would have been to recognize that a trillion-sale is completely impossible to aim for. Not to acknowledge an earlier failure and trying again.

Maybe I should simply sit out the next 3 months. By then, the current disaster might be over.
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Old 2011-11-03, 19:26   Link #8507
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I've been "sitting it out" since June and relying on this forum's updates, so 3 months might not be long enough, Mentar.
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Old 2011-11-04, 07:48   Link #8508
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anyone else take it as sign that the Mangaka is running out of ideas when new character keep getting introduce when there is already a huge cast?
It seems to be a current trend. A good amount of harem shows go on like this, starting with Negima, to To aru Majutsu no Index, Infinite Stratos and other harems out there.

It'd seem more like a marketing tacting, so that otakus can have more waifus to add to their collection.
And well, whilst in terms of volume I don't like it, I cannot deny I loved Athena and I currently like Luca. Though, sadly, characters like Sakuya and Isumi have taken a back-seat.

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Maturing would have been to recognize that a trillion-sale is completely impossible to aim for.
Well, this is a shōnen manga. They always have thematics like these, like doing what would seem impossible and stuff like that.
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Old 2011-11-09, 04:18   Link #8509
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Old 2011-11-09, 09:01   Link #8510
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Meh, sounds like typical prep talk to me. Dramatic, wise-sounding words, no real advice. Hinagiku was better; Bakuman was waaaay better.

And I need to stop reading this, as it's kind of boring right now. New character doesn't interest me in the least.
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Old 2011-11-09, 09:31   Link #8511
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And then Nagi became the Yamakan of manga.
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Old 2011-11-09, 09:34   Link #8512
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She's obviously needed to bring this Nagi-centric trillion-sales manga arc to a positive conclusion.

Like I wrote before, I'd really love to know if anybody feels that this arc just REMOTELY reaches the quality of earlier arcs. Especially the author. To me, it is a total disaster, especially since we're about to do it all once more (next Comiket). Meh.

And what frustrates me most is that there isn't even growth and gradual maturing of Nagi, while I'm at the same time convinced that this is supposed to be the overall goal. Maturing would have been to recognize that a trillion-sale is completely impossible to aim for. Not to acknowledge an earlier failure and trying again.

Maybe I should simply sit out the next 3 months. By then, the current disaster might be over.
I actually don't recall any arc being that amazing except for the Athena arc and maybe Hina's birthday.
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Old 2011-11-09, 12:15   Link #8513
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Hands up anyone who *really* cares about this Nagi mangaka arc.
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Old 2011-11-09, 13:40   Link #8514
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:P The thing is, I actually do. The economic and creative ideas behind creating a gigantic megahit are interesting to me for personal reasons, and I think the impossibility of the "Trillion-seller" target brings up many thematic connections to the concept of the "Power of Kings". This most recent chapter in particular, I see many hints towards that in Kayura's words. Nagi's family by heritage has an inherent disposition towards the sensibilities of the "Power of Kings", so, however lost she may be now, all of the struggles she is currently undergoing I see as laying down a foundation for major developments in the theme of this story.
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Old 2011-11-09, 15:13   Link #8515
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:P The thing is, I actually do. The economic and creative ideas behind creating a gigantic megahit are interesting to me for personal reasons,
go read bakuman if you are interested in the professional aspect of the Manga industry. Or if you want to read about the doujin circles, read Genshikin and Comic Party.


Someone PM when the nagi wants mangaka arc is over,
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Old 2011-11-09, 15:28   Link #8516
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Hands up anyone who *really* cares about this Nagi mangaka arc.
I don't care less than for any other arc. And I must admit, I've missed her.
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No, it really isn't. Before thinking outside the box and bringing about a revolution, you should really master the box.
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Old 2011-11-09, 16:04   Link #8517
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go read bakuman if you are interested in the professional aspect of the Manga industry. Or if you want to read about the doujin circles, read Genshikin and Comic Party.


Someone PM when the nagi wants mangaka arc is over,
I do read Bakuman. And I do engage in the creative and commercial elements that are brought up there. But I'm not interested in just manga specifically, and Nagi's "trillion-seller" ambitions are closer to the scale I'm thinking about when I refer to "gigantic megahits".
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Old 2011-11-09, 18:34   Link #8518
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No, it really isn't. Before thinking outside the box and bringing about a revolution, you should really master the box.
Agreed. This advice is just horrid.
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Old 2011-11-09, 18:39   Link #8519
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No, it really isn't. Before thinking outside the box and bringing about a revolution, you should really master the box.
This. The reason why crackpots never get anywhere isn't because there's some conspiracy keeping them down. It's because you can't get anywhere without a foundation.
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Old 2011-11-09, 20:09   Link #8520
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Agreed. This advice is just horrid.
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This. The reason why crackpots never get anywhere isn't because there's some conspiracy keeping them down. It's because you can't get anywhere without a foundation.
If you have the passion to keep drawing manga, by yourself, without influence for (let's say) 15 years, then by the end of that you're gonna be producing something highly polished, unique, and individual. This is just the nature of how human mastery works. A boiler pot is a better analogy. The point is not "thinking outside the box", but distilling yourself into a concentrated essence from a different space entirely.

Of course, Nagi doesn't have 15 years. And it is extremely difficult to maintain that passion. But for ambitions as great as Nagi has stated, (well, IMO) Kayura's got the right idea. On one point in particular I think Kagura is completely right (in a general sense as well): common results are what arise from common methodologies.
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