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Old 2009-04-02, 17:09   Link #861
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Ah... Ahhaha... Sorry, I was just surprised at her popularity and did a round-about-way of saying that I personally don't give a care about her. I've already read her whole surreal arc in the actual JP volume.
Thanks for her last name though. Not sure how I missed that... *shrug*
How can you not care about her?? I'm borderline obsessed with her...
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Old 2009-04-02, 22:05   Link #862
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How can you not care about her?? I'm borderline obsessed with her...
Which I can ask straight back, what is so good about her?
As far as I see, she doesn't have any great points whatsoever. Her character design? Not really (though I froze when her older form appeared with a butler. By the way, the freeze was from the shock of her appearance changing). Her personality? Nothing interesting or that likable. Her story? A surreal tragic whose only remaining impression was how crappy Hayate's parents are.
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Old 2009-04-02, 22:43   Link #863
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1) Her style of dress is so unorthodox that it really begs the question what her origins are.
2) She has the strong, assertive personality of Hinagiku without the odd self-consciousness that Hina falls victim to. She was completely open with Hayate about her feelings towards him and what she expected out of him...I found that enchanting in a manga where literally all of the other girls have hidden feelings.
3) Her arc was the only time the manga got serious at all. Not only that, but it also brought an unprecedented mystic quality to the story that HnG completely lacked beforehand (with a few exceptions revolving around Isumi's supernatural encounters). In due time, I definitely foresee Athena being the catalyst for the final major plot turn of the series that'll literally throw every character's position in the social network into jeopardy.

This is why I love A-tan
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Old 2009-04-03, 02:40   Link #864
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Is it just me or is Hina becoming strangely more powerful as the manga goes on? Her sword fighting skills seem to be getting stronger and stronger. Nothing close to Hayate, but for a normal character, progressing really well.
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Old 2009-04-03, 05:36   Link #865
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2) She has the strong, assertive personality of Hinagiku without the odd self-consciousness that Hina falls victim to. She was completely open with Hayate about her feelings towards him and what she expected out of him...I found that enchanting in a manga where literally all of the other girls have hidden feelings.
And it's exactly the lack of self-consciousness and other visible weaknesses which keeps her from MY top spots in my personal rankings. I think I understand the appeal of having one girl going pretty much all-out in a harem of more self-conscious characters, but that's also what's DEFINING a good character in my book. It's not the strengths, it's the flaws.

Take chapter 195, for example. The fact that Hina was willing and able to grit her teeth and climb the ladder to the "high place" in order to let Ayumu win, overcoming her weakness, is what I consider really touching. Athena would probably have jumped at the platform in one go without even USING the ladder.

Winning with strength is one thing. Overcoming weakness is more in my book

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3) Her arc was the only time the manga got serious at all.
Er, no. There were enough serious arcs for Hina, Hamster and Maria in particular. But I'd concede that the Athena arc was particularly dark.

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Not only that, but it also brought an unprecedented mystic quality to the story that HnG completely lacked beforehand (with a few exceptions revolving around Isumi's supernatural encounters). In due time, I definitely foresee Athena being the catalyst for the final major plot turn of the series that'll literally throw every character's position in the social network into jeopardy.
Well, you might be right there.

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Old 2009-04-03, 06:13   Link #866
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I think we should be careful about Athena not having any flaws or weaknesses. We don't know enough about her and seeing her position now in life, I'm pretty sure she has her own huge problems.

Wondering around in a gigantic castle alone and wanting to go back there...... There's something wrong with that picture.
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Old 2009-04-03, 13:33   Link #867
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I hope I won't sound offensive for saying this, but you guys do realise you're discussing tastes, right? Tastes are subjective you know. So, asking something like "how can you not like this character if I love him/her to death?" is quite silly.

Anyway, back to discussing the chapter, I think it is fairly obvious the one who spoke to Hayate at the end was Maria (she's the only one who calls him "Hayate-kun," unless I'm mistaken). Why would Hata hide her face?
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Old 2009-04-03, 14:20   Link #868
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Well, Hinagiku does as well, although the rest of the speech pattern (incredibly polite) is Maria all the way.
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Old 2009-04-03, 15:22   Link #869
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Old 2009-04-03, 15:35   Link #870
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Well, Hinagiku does as well, although the rest of the speech pattern (incredibly polite) is Maria all the way.
I'm fairly sure Hina calls him "Ayasaki-kun".
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Old 2009-04-03, 15:49   Link #871
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She calls him Ayasaki-kun from after the Sports Festival arc up until after Hina's birthday event. Before the former and after the latter, she uses Hayate-kun.
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Old 2009-04-03, 17:29   Link #872
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Hell, I really suck at noticing these kinds of things. Anyway, as it was already mentioned, the speech pattern is undoubtedly Maria's.
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Old 2009-04-04, 09:03   Link #873
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Probably is Maria. Would explain her general lack of appearance of late even when everyone else is doing stuff. Perhaps Hata was preparing for the next part of the arc.

Maybe even... plot development!?
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Old 2009-04-04, 10:04   Link #874
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i love A-tan...
I hope she will appear in season 2 ^^
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