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Old 2014-08-08, 19:00   Link #10201
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I'm not sure I would call Athena the "original plot" given it first cropped up about four years into the manga.

Regardless, a new story arc starts next week and we saw Athena briefly as a 17 year old a little while ago with no indication that she'd be able to transform permanently anytime soon.
You could call it the "original plot" since the royal garden appeared in the second page of the manga.
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Old 2014-08-17, 19:21   Link #10202
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And Hata trolls again.
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Old 2014-08-17, 19:37   Link #10203
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Yes, and he giggles the entire time he's trolling.

I can understand his issue with a 3D movie in subtitles, but I saw Godzilla in IMAX 3D and it was just amazing.
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Old 2014-08-17, 21:12   Link #10204
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I like how this chapter had the reason I hate watching movies in 3D.
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Old 2014-08-17, 22:32   Link #10205
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I will say that the one thing I don't like about Imax 3d (not so much an issue with regular 3D) is that they just wash the glasses and reuse them, so they are often spotted. *_*

Anyway, in 2D or in 3D, Godzilla was a good movie, even if it did tease the audience for about 60% of the film.

While I'm thinking of it, I did find it humorous hearing Japanese people talking about watching a subtitled version of Godzilla. There's just something twisted about that, which causes me to laugh for some reason. (Or I could just be very tired as I wait for my last load of laundry to finish.)
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Old 2014-08-19, 17:49   Link #10206
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Sorry for the double post - the manga is taking place in 2004, right?
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Old 2014-08-19, 22:05   Link #10207
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It's taking place in a remarkable 2004 where everyone has IPhones and keeps up with the latest games, movies, and anime, yes.
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Old 2014-08-20, 20:11   Link #10208
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It's taking place in a remarkable 2004 where everyone has IPhones and keeps up with the latest games, movies, and anime, yes.
They probably just renamed the year 2004 instead of 2014. They subtracted a 10 somewhere during one of the recent arcs.
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Old 2014-08-20, 21:10   Link #10209
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Remember, the story started in 2004 and it's slowly moving through said year. While references and items are up to date with current stuff in the real world, the story itself is still set in 2004. They even joked about this in a recent chapter.
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Old 2014-08-22, 23:43   Link #10210
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Remember, the story started in 2004 and it's slowly moving through said year. While references and items are up to date with current stuff in the real world, the story itself is still set in 2004. They even joked about this in a recent chapter.
At least this is better than Conan which pretends it makes sense.
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Old 2014-08-23, 09:04   Link #10211
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Conan uses a Marvel sense of time combined with a Simpsons sense of time. That is, a sliding timeline that agrees to real world changes in seasons and dates, but within the world itself time barely passes.

It helps that almost all of the Black Organization plot used to take place in winter to give a sense of coherency.
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Old 2014-08-24, 00:12   Link #10212
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Conan uses a Marvel sense of time combined with a Simpsons sense of time. That is, a sliding timeline that agrees to real world changes in seasons and dates, but within the world itself time barely passes.

It helps that almost all of the Black Organization plot used to take place in winter to give a sense of coherency.
I didn't say I don't like it. It's just that the timeline is still completely screwy and should have accommodated someone growing older or raising in grades.

This series at least does it for comedic purposes, lol, so it just fits.
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Old 2014-08-26, 08:00   Link #10213
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462 is great is a completely different way then 461.

I've really been digging the manga over the last year or so. Almost everything from the climax of the mangaka arc on has been really good.

It's a little scary how fast everything is moving, though. I think Hata is serious about trying to end it soon. (And by "soon" I mean the next 2-3 years. There's still a lot for him to work though.)
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Old 2014-08-26, 08:58   Link #10214
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I'm sorry, but I really have difficulties to follow your optimism that Hata wants to resolve anything anytime soon.

Time and time again, Hata raised an issue, giving us the impression that the resolution of this issue actually really mattered.

- The Hinagiku development up to her intention to confess
- The Athena development up to their splitup
- Nagi's "Love Hina" move out, and "growth"
- The Ruka development up to their splitup
- The "King Jewel" hunt
- The Reconciliation with Hayate's brother

And the funny thing: None of this actually matters at all. Nothing has really changed. Any gradual developments of characters which could be seen _during these respective arcs_ have been fully undone afterwards.

So, I've stopped waiting for any "developments", "resolutions" or even "attempts to end things" and relegated HnG to "joke of the week" format. And lo and behold - it actually allowed me to enjoy things more, even though it forced me to disattach myself from several characters.

It's just the way it is. NOTHING MATTERS.
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Old 2014-08-26, 09:13   Link #10215
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Eh, we disagree, as always. *shrug*

I'm pretty resigned to the fact that you seem to have a completely different read on the manga then I do.

There's no question that the manga is on it's way to ending though. Not since Hata telegraphed (and confirmed) that the story would end in December and has spent a lot of time in omake's and elsewhere talking about his plans for the ending.

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Old 2014-08-26, 09:45   Link #10216
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Please don't get me wrong, it's great if you fully enjoy the show and see a proper buildup to a final conclusion ^_^; ... I just don't see it.

Could you give 1-2 examples of what kind of _lasting_ development you see? Lasting as in "this is a significant change from the initial setting which cannot/will not be undone"?

And just for the record: I think that the number of _funny_ chapters has increased over the last year.
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Old 2014-08-26, 09:51   Link #10217
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If we're just going to get funny chapters, I'd prefer Hata went back to making references and the like instead of just cliche manzai stuff.
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:15   Link #10218
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I'm sorry, but I really have difficulties to follow your optimism that Hata wants to resolve anything anytime soon.

Time and time again, Hata raised an issue, giving us the impression that the resolution of this issue actually really mattered.

- The Hinagiku development up to her intention to confess
- The Athena development up to their splitup
- Nagi's "Love Hina" move out, and "growth"
- The Ruka development up to their splitup
- The "King Jewel" hunt
- The Reconciliation with Hayate's brother

And the funny thing: None of this actually matters at all. Nothing has really changed. Any gradual developments of characters which could be seen _during these respective arcs_ have been fully undone afterwards.

So, I've stopped waiting for any "developments", "resolutions" or even "attempts to end things" and relegated HnG to "joke of the week" format. And lo and behold - it actually allowed me to enjoy things more, even though it forced me to disattach myself from several characters.

It's just the way it is. NOTHING MATTERS.
i agree with you, there is not real development in this story, and we have so many "filler" .... i still don't understand the reason for the ruka arc(i have the feeling the ruka was going to affect the story in another way...but...it was changed at the last minute).

and how many chapters we need to wait for the real plot..(king jewel, nagi mother, athena arc..even hayate parents ....)

......i know that this is a comedy story with a few serious arcs(i really like the athena arc).....but the comedy is so low lately.. i really enjoyed the first vols comedy.


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Eh, we disagree, as always. *shrug*

I'm pretty resigned to the fact that you seem to have a completely different read on the manga then I do.

There's no question that the manga is on it's way to ending though. Not since Hata telegraphed (and confirmed) that the story would end in December and has spent a lot of time in omake's and elsewhere talking about his plans for the ending.
it this true?....and, in what month is the story now in?.....i don't remember a thing now..
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Old 2014-08-26, 12:21   Link #10219
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Pretty sure it's still in August.

Only took 10 years to advance 8 months in the story, so at this rate there's only another 5 years left until it ends!
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Old 2014-08-26, 14:30   Link #10220
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so a normal chapter with Nagi and Hayate being their usual self, I guess they will get troll after they thing they have the stone.
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