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juri_miki · 2003-11-06, 22:51

I see a lot of posts where people are blaming Mitsuki for all the events that have occurred in this show, but I don't see why people are giving her all the weight of the blame. Like people are going, "Well she made Takayuki late for a lot of his dates for Haruka and if she hadn't then, Haruka wouldn't have been in a coma." I think everyone is so quick to blame the females, especially other females, which is wrong.

If anything, I put a lot of the responsibility for a lot of the events, on Takayuki. One could bring up the argument that, if he had more balls back in high school and just told Mitsuki his feelings then him dating Haruka wouldn't have happened, therefore no accident, (maybe there would've been if it was just fate). Also, everyone blames Mitsuki for making him late, but if anything that's just Takayuki's fault, because he didn't have to talk to her right then and there, but he WANTED TO. Even though he knew he was late for those dates he still chose to be with Mitsuki then to fulfill his previous responsibility of meeting up with Haruka at the specified time. Like did he really have to buy Mitsuki that ring, at that time when he knew he was running late for his date with Haruka? No, of course he didn't, but he chose to do it. Did Mitsuki ever put a gun to this brother's head and demand that he stay with her? Of course not, it was of his own choice.

Another point, is where everyone scorns Mitsuki for sleeping with Takayuki. Remember everybody it takes TWO to tango. He could've refused, but he didn't. Of course he was a little incapicitated, but to go the next day to go look for a job, proved that he was very much aware of his actions. So, I mean, yeah he did like Mitsuki before and now he has her, even though the relationship has been nothing but sex, sex, sex with them. (Which I think has been to get over his guilt.)

Personally, I think Takayuki is a worthless bum and doesn't deserve either of them. He's too indecisive and ready to go with the next chick to offer up the goods to him. I'm sure that in the next episode, if Akane were to come up to him and offer to have sex with him, he'd do it and then leave Mitsuki in a split second. I feel bad for the both of them to be so in love with this guy. Shinji would be a much better catch.

And if he does go back to Haruka it would be nothing but a pure guilt trip. Like, to this day, I believe that the only reason he truly even stayed by Haruka's side in the beginning was because of sheer guilt. If it was more than just guilt he would've protested when her parents told him not to come back to the hospital. He didn't though. It's almost as if this guy has no real personality. Like I said, he's a worthless bum.

GUTB_ · 2003-11-06, 23:09

It is an important point to make: Mitsuki can offer her body, but Takayuki has to accept it.

ZGMF-10A · 2003-11-06, 23:59

thats sad how she needs to offer her body to get a man when Hakura doesn't.... Takayuki didn't even mind if they didn't had sex .......... i think Hakura and Takayuki are going to be together no matter what....

Shift_ · 2003-11-07, 01:48

I'd rather have a Haruka + Mitsuki lesbian ending. Takayuki is stupid, he should die, EVERYTHING IS HIS FAULT.

It's true

juri_miki · 2003-11-07, 02:23

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Originally Posted by ZGMF-10A

thats sad how she needs to offer her body to get a man when Hakura doesn't.... Takayuki didn't even mind if they didn't had sex .......... i think Hakura and Takayuki are going to be together no matter what....

I really think the only reason he was even with Haruka in the first place was because Mitsuki practically told him to go out with the girl, and he did like the nice little obedient dog that he is. To think he did it out of pure love for her, would mean that one has to rewatch those episode again, I think.

Also, some other poster noted in the circumstances of both of their relationships. When Haruka/Takayuki were going out everything was a lot simpler then. With Takayuki/Mitsuki the feelings and everything have become much more complicated. Takayuki was and will always be drowning in guilt. He was swimming in so much of it that he prolly really even notice Mitsuki until she gave up the goods. Once he got a taste of the cooch he was converted. I'm sure if he gets a taste of Haruka's cooch he'll be converted once again....

Kamui4356 · 2003-11-07, 03:40

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Originally Posted by juri_miki

I see a lot of posts where people are blaming Mitsuki for all the events that have occurred in this show, but I don't see why people are giving her all the weight of the blame. Like people are going, "Well she made Takayuki late for a lot of his dates for Haruka and if she hadn't then, Haruka wouldn't have been in a coma." I think everyone is so quick to blame the females, especially other females, which is wrong.

If anything, I put a lot of the responsibility for a lot of the events, on Takayuki. One could bring up the argument that, if he had more balls back in high school and just told Mitsuki his feelings then him dating Haruka wouldn't have happened, therefore no accident, (maybe there would've been if it was just fate). Also, everyone blames Mitsuki for making him late, but if anything that's just Takayuki's fault, because he didn't have to talk to her right then and there, but he WANTED TO. Even though he knew he was late for those dates he still chose to be with Mitsuki then to fulfill his previous responsibility of meeting up with Haruka at the specified time.

The thing is he knew that Haruka wouldn't mind him being late. I'm sure everyone has had a simliar experince, you're supposed to meet you friend/girlfriend/boyfriend, run into someone else, start talking and end up late. If the accident hadn't happened no one would have thought anything of it. Also it wasn't the first time Mitsuki did it. While the accident was, in a way, Mitsuki's fault, you can't blame her too much since she never intended for something like that to happen.
As for Takayuki sharing the blame, it's clear he blames himself for the accident, or it wouldn't have effected him to that degree. It's also possible that if he hadn't stopped to talk to Mitsuki and buy her that ring, Takayuki may have been hit by the car too. Who really knows what would have happened?

saku~ya · 2003-11-07, 10:09

You know I am reallllly trying to stay away from this anime. But its so darn addictive that I can't. I just gotta make sure my sister doesn't see watching this. You never know what they will show in one episode

My feelings on Mitsuki:

I really despise her; I don't know its just something about her. The only credit I give to her is having sex with Takayuki so he can be sane again. Shes done her part now lets move on with Haruka. Its true though, if Mitskui hadn't of talked to him on Haruka's second date to the festival, or the huge one where she got in the accident, there wouldn't be any problem.

I see her as a backstabbing girlfriend. And don't tell me about well it has been 3 years since her coma. Mitsuki probably would have been trying to stall Takayuki on their dates.

I hope that when Haruka gets well enough she slaps Mitsuki in the face and call her what she deserves. But I don't think I will get to see that. Haruka seems like the girl who forgives and forgets. That would be a totally awesome scene, Mitsuki crying holding her face and we see a tear trickle over her ring.

Shift_ · 2003-11-07, 10:13

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Originally Posted by Kamui4356

The thing is he knew that Haruka wouldn't mind him being late. I'm sure everyone has had a simliar experince, you're supposed to meet you friend/girlfriend/boyfriend, run into someone else, start talking and end up late. If the accident hadn't happened no one would have thought anything of it. Also it wasn't the first time Mitsuki did it. While the accident was, in a way, Mitsuki's fault, you can't blame her too much since she never intended for something like that to happen.
As for Takayuki sharing the blame, it's clear he blames himself for the accident, or it wouldn't have effected him to that degree. It's also possible that if he hadn't stopped to talk to Mitsuki and buy her that ring, Takayuki may have been hit by the car too. Who really knows what would have happened?

Heh...and That's why you get a car, and pick up your date from their house

Easier that way.

And always be on time...just RIGHT on time...but it's also fun to show up unexpectedly

u&t · 2003-11-07, 12:03

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Heh...and That's why you get a car, and pick up your date from their house

Easier that way.

Bah, then you have to be sober

Cars suck. With those you can't do the oh-crap-I-missed-the-last-bus trick

Tboz · 2003-11-07, 13:46

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Originally Posted by rothgar

It's funny that some people blame Mitsuki for the accident, but nobody has blamed the person who was actually driving the car that hit Haruka. It was prolly some drunk driver who had to go to court:
Judge:"Due to your carelessness, a girl is in a coma. What do you have to say for yourself?"
DrunkDriver:"But judge, if Mitsuki wouldn't have made Takayuki late, Haruka would have been alright!"
Judge:"You know, you're right. You're free to go. Now, don't ever do it again."
DrunkDriver:"Woohoo! Time to get my drink on! There's a new bar near the elementary school I haven't tried yet..."
Judge:"Officers, put out an APB for this bitch Mitsuki."

I still think this quote from the Mitsuki thread is the most undisputable.

Alright, everyone blames Mitsuki, but I agree with a few that Takayuki is the cause of the whole mess. He is indecisive, probably he like Mitsuki first, then grew to like Haruka too. So he couldn't bear giving up anyone of them. Maybe that's why he appear to be haruka's boyfriend, but yet willing to spare abit of his dating time to buy Mitsuki a ring for her Birthday.

I also believe that both are feeling equally guilty for having a small part in that accident. Could be why Takayuki took it so hard initially and Mitsuki thought she can redeem and relieve herself by helping Haruka take care of Takayuki. Apparently the pressure and the needs are too strong and they when off the track. Honestly speaking, I think some people when in love can really do some silly things like trying to imitate her, learn her hobby, spy on her... might sound abit perverted, but loving is something that everyone has to take some time to learn and yet never master completely, all I can do is quote from Agent Smith ~ He's only human...

I am not condoning anybody, I just think nobody's perfect. And this is just fiction, so it appears the scriptwriter has succeded in creating a character that people can love and hate at the same time. This series is defintely worth watching. Just my 2 cents...

z-kun · 2003-11-07, 14:23

uhm... saku~ya you are partially right

Haruka would never slap Mitsuki, i just don't see it out of her nature. But she will have a major disappoinment / crash when she will find out what actually happened.

As for Mitsuki, i can't really blame her for anything. I know this type of person. They sacrifice too much for somebody else without getting any reward. She just succumbed to her feelings in the end. She also hinted Takayuki that several times even before he and HAruka actually got together (she admitted that firstly she talked to him just for Haruka's sake, but that changed].
If somebody remains to be blamed, that is Takayuki for being lame and undecided.

I'm very curious how this will go on. My prediction about this is here

lordwu · 2003-11-07, 14:56

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Originally Posted by Shift_

Heh...and That's why you get a car, and pick up your date from their house

Easier that way.

And always be on time...just RIGHT on time...but it's also fun to show up unexpectedly

Young guys have cars are usually the bad guys in the anime don't you see?

Normal high school students in Japan don't usually have the ability to own a car, contrary to how it is here in US.

Durandal · 2003-11-07, 15:15

I agree for the most part with Juri_Miki, it's not one person thats at fault here. However I think that this whole anime is based on being victims of circumstances. The characters do what they feel is right, we make the judgment calls.

Crimson · 2003-11-07, 17:52

Oh my gosh!. I don't know why some people keep blaming Mitsuki for Haruka's accident. She never knew Takayuki was running late and she never held a gun at his head and told him to stay with her and forget his date.

Some people are acting like she hired someone to run over Mitsuki or something. If anyone should be at fault for Haruka's accident its Takayuki..... and the car driver, hehe.

And all the Haruka fans should try to realize that if it wasn't for Mitsuki, there wouldn't have been a Haruka +Takayuki relationship. If it wasn't for Mitsuki Takayuki wouldn't have gone out with her, and we all know that Takayuki was ready to turn down Haruka in a instant. He even said he is only going out with Haruka because Mitsuki told him to, its not because he liked her.

So you guys can hate Mitsuki all you want but if it wasn't for her then Haruka would have probably commited suicide of something after getting turned down by Takayuki. lol

Takayuki obviously had some feelings for Mitsuki, and thats why he did almost anything she told him to. So both Mitsuki and Takayuki were holding in their feelings for each other, but as fate now has it they somehow ended up together.

Personally, i hate Takayuki's guts, and i don't think he deserves any of the girls. But since this is a romance series i'm sure he will end up with one of them in the end.

So i think he will end up with Mitsuki in the end because leaving your current girlfriend who has taken care of you for 3 years to go back to your old girlfriend is just wrong. -_-

GUTB_ · 2003-11-07, 19:13

Actually, Mitsuki knew very well that Takayuki was going to meet Haruka on a date, and it was also clear that he was in a hurry. When Takayuki tried to take off, Mitsuki pulled out her birthday as an excuse to keep him around. And she knew she was out of bounds by the expression in her voice -- she stuttered a bit in a way that shows she was forcing it out. Fighting with her concious.

They probably spent a good 10 minutes or so while they walked down the street while she picked out what she wanted. When they were done, we see a shot of Haruka waiting -- so the accident hadn't happened yet. Woudl those 10 or so made the difference? Hard to say, it's slicing it really thin. But that's not the point -- the timing is just too close to matter to them, and they will reserve the right to feel responsible for it.

Also, I don't know about any of you, but I would consider that ring to be a bloody ring of accussaion and guilt. I'd probably deliberately lose it somehwere where I was unlikely to find it again. But Mitsuki kept it and wore it for years, like some kind of demonic symbol of her greedy triumph. LOL.

musouka · 2003-11-07, 20:56

Wrongfully accused? How so?

Mainly what I see people accusing her of is:

A. Distracting Takayuki from his dates.

Both times she used something that's fairly hard to say no to. One was "I really need to talk about something important" (prevailing upon his friendship) and the other was "It's my birthday [so come and buy me something]" (again prevailing upon his friendship). No, she did not hold a gun to his head, but neither did she give him the option of "Oh, you're busy? How about after the date, or later this week?"

Since Mitsuki is his friend, and she's appealing to his sense of duty as a friend, it would be rude to turn her down in both instances. Granted, could he have said "Gee, I'm running late. I'll buy you dinner tommorow to make up for it!"? Absolutely. But you seem to fail to recall that both times it was her pushing him to break his dates.

Then there's always...

B. Having sex with Takayuki at a time when he vunerable and not thinking straight

Okay, who was the one that instiganted contact here? It's not like nearly-comatose!Takayuki looked at her and said "Hey, bay-bee, I know what'll fix me right up! Take off your clothes!"

She's not completely to blame for either of these, yes, but again, she is the one that started it. It's not like Takayuki met her when he was on his way to Haruka and said "Hey, I'm running late, but here, let me stop and take even MORE time to buy you something! Oh, it's your birthday? Even better."

Again, Mitsuki is human. People want to set her up as this poor, angelic long suffering friend, when she hasn't exactly been the best friend someone could have. I don't think she's a slutty whore or anything, I just think that she's more selfish than some of her fans care to admit. And while these things might not be entirely her fault, it's hardly as if she had no part to play in what happened.

Key Board · 2003-11-07, 21:09

Agreed.

She was forced to a breaking point and understandably so, since she apparently had to bear most of the burden of the situation.

Shinji was in his own world, and GOD KNOWS where Takayuki's parents are.

Of course, there was Akane, but she too was preoccupied with Haruka and she too had her own school life to worry about.

CrazyFlamer · 2003-11-08, 03:11

Some pretty strong points being thrown back and forth. I would like to say one thing. Apparently Kimi ga Nozomu has attratied a very mature aduidence(sp). The different views seem to be strong, but yet there's not even a hint of fighting. After reading them I have to say I love the anime a lot more than before which I didn't even think to be possible.

I myself am a huge Haruka fan. My girlfriend in real life is so much like her it isn't funny. I was so sad when that car came and suddenly ruined things. I didn't blame Mitsuki, I blamed it fully on the drunk driver.

Anyway, just thought i'd share that.

ognir · 2003-11-08, 05:14

[QUOTE=Crimson]
So you guys can hate Mitsuki all you want but if it wasn't for her then Haruka would have probably commited suicide of something after getting turned down by Takayuki. lol

Actually, in episode 1, Takayuki had already turned down Haruka on the phone, and the scenes afterward had proved that Haruka still lived normally until Takayuki took her from the train station to the mountain and confuessed to her that he liked her.

Sepiraph · 2003-11-08, 09:13

If anything, I'd blame the driver. It is an accident and one can't place a blame on Mitsuki for causing it.

2003-11-06, 22:51	Link #1
juri_miki Death Note Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NY	Mitsuki being wrongly accused I see a lot of posts where people are blaming Mitsuki for all the events that have occurred in this show, but I don't see why people are giving her all the weight of the blame. Like people are going, "Well she made Takayuki late for a lot of his dates for Haruka and if she hadn't then, Haruka wouldn't have been in a coma." I think everyone is so quick to blame the females, especially other females, which is wrong. If anything, I put a lot of the responsibility for a lot of the events, on Takayuki. One could bring up the argument that, if he had more balls back in high school and just told Mitsuki his feelings then him dating Haruka wouldn't have happened, therefore no accident, (maybe there would've been if it was just fate). Also, everyone blames Mitsuki for making him late, but if anything that's just Takayuki's fault, because he didn't have to talk to her right then and there, but he WANTED TO. Even though he knew he was late for those dates he still chose to be with Mitsuki then to fulfill his previous responsibility of meeting up with Haruka at the specified time. Like did he really have to buy Mitsuki that ring, at that time when he knew he was running late for his date with Haruka? No, of course he didn't, but he chose to do it. Did Mitsuki ever put a gun to this brother's head and demand that he stay with her? Of course not, it was of his own choice. Another point, is where everyone scorns Mitsuki for sleeping with Takayuki. Remember everybody it takes TWO to tango. He could've refused, but he didn't. Of course he was a little incapicitated, but to go the next day to go look for a job, proved that he was very much aware of his actions. So, I mean, yeah he did like Mitsuki before and now he has her, even though the relationship has been nothing but sex, sex, sex with them. (Which I think has been to get over his guilt.) Personally, I think Takayuki is a worthless bum and doesn't deserve either of them. He's too indecisive and ready to go with the next chick to offer up the goods to him. I'm sure that in the next episode, if Akane were to come up to him and offer to have sex with him, he'd do it and then leave Mitsuki in a split second. I feel bad for the both of them to be so in love with this guy. Shinji would be a much better catch. And if he does go back to Haruka it would be nothing but a pure guilt trip. Like, to this day, I believe that the only reason he truly even stayed by Haruka's side in the beginning was because of sheer guilt. If it was more than just guilt he would've protested when her parents told him not to come back to the hospital. He didn't though. It's almost as if this guy has no real personality. Like I said, he's a worthless bum.

2003-11-06, 23:09	Link #2
GUTB_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2003	It is an important point to make: Mitsuki can offer her body, but Takayuki has to accept it. __________________ The Super Genius

2003-11-07, 10:09	Link #7
saku~ya la~li~lo Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 28	You know I am reallllly trying to stay away from this anime. But its so darn addictive that I can't. I just gotta make sure my sister doesn't see watching this. You never know what they will show in one episode My feelings on Mitsuki: I really despise her; I don't know its just something about her. The only credit I give to her is having sex with Takayuki so he can be sane again. Shes done her part now lets move on with Haruka. Its true though, if Mitskui hadn't of talked to him on Haruka's second date to the festival, or the huge one where she got in the accident, there wouldn't be any problem. I see her as a backstabbing girlfriend. And don't tell me about well it has been 3 years since her coma. Mitsuki probably would have been trying to stall Takayuki on their dates. I hope that when Haruka gets well enough she slaps Mitsuki in the face and call her what she deserves. But I don't think I will get to see that. Haruka seems like the girl who forgives and forgets. That would be a totally awesome scene, Mitsuki crying holding her face and we see a tear trickle over her ring. __________________

2003-11-07, 14:23	Link #11
z-kun baka! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: daremo inai machi	uhm... saku~ya you are partially right Haruka would never slap Mitsuki, i just don't see it out of her nature. But she will have a major disappoinment / crash when she will find out what actually happened. As for Mitsuki, i can't really blame her for anything. I know this type of person. They sacrifice too much for somebody else without getting any reward. She just succumbed to her feelings in the end. She also hinted Takayuki that several times even before he and HAruka actually got together (she admitted that firstly she talked to him just for Haruka's sake, but that changed]. If somebody remains to be blamed, that is Takayuki for being lame and undecided. I'm very curious how this will go on. My prediction about this is here __________________

2003-11-07, 17:52	Link #14
Crimson Ecchi Nazi Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Long Island NY Age: 29	Oh my gosh!. I don't know why some people keep blaming Mitsuki for Haruka's accident. She never knew Takayuki was running late and she never held a gun at his head and told him to stay with her and forget his date. Some people are acting like she hired someone to run over Mitsuki or something. If anyone should be at fault for Haruka's accident its Takayuki..... and the car driver, hehe. And all the Haruka fans should try to realize that if it wasn't for Mitsuki, there wouldn't have been a Haruka +Takayuki relationship. If it wasn't for Mitsuki Takayuki wouldn't have gone out with her, and we all know that Takayuki was ready to turn down Haruka in a instant. He even said he is only going out with Haruka because Mitsuki told him to, its not because he liked her. So you guys can hate Mitsuki all you want but if it wasn't for her then Haruka would have probably commited suicide of something after getting turned down by Takayuki. lol Takayuki obviously had some feelings for Mitsuki, and thats why he did almost anything she told him to. So both Mitsuki and Takayuki were holding in their feelings for each other, but as fate now has it they somehow ended up together. Personally, i hate Takayuki's guts, and i don't think he deserves any of the girls. But since this is a romance series i'm sure he will end up with one of them in the end. So i think he will end up with Mitsuki in the end because leaving your current girlfriend who has taken care of you for 3 years to go back to your old girlfriend is just wrong. -_- __________________ Sig removed by Mod (xris) because it exceeds the limits as requested in the forum rules.

2003-11-06, 23:59	Link #3
ZGMF-10A Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	thats sad how she needs to offer her body to get a man when Hakura doesn't.... Takayuki didn't even mind if they didn't had sex .......... i think Hakura and Takayuki are going to be together no matter what....

2003-11-07, 01:48	Link #4
Shift_ Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Down Under	I'd rather have a Haruka + Mitsuki lesbian ending. Takayuki is stupid, he should die, EVERYTHING IS HIS FAULT. It's true

2003-11-07, 15:15	Link #13
Durandal Insane AI Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Colorado Age: 30	I agree for the most part with Juri_Miki, it's not one person thats at fault here. However I think that this whole anime is based on being victims of circumstances. The characters do what they feel is right, we make the judgment calls.

2003-11-07, 19:13	Link #15
GUTB_ Senior Member Join Date: May 2003	Actually, Mitsuki knew very well that Takayuki was going to meet Haruka on a date, and it was also clear that he was in a hurry. When Takayuki tried to take off, Mitsuki pulled out her birthday as an excuse to keep him around. And she knew she was out of bounds by the expression in her voice -- she stuttered a bit in a way that shows she was forcing it out. Fighting with her concious. They probably spent a good 10 minutes or so while they walked down the street while she picked out what she wanted. When they were done, we see a shot of Haruka waiting -- so the accident hadn't happened yet. Woudl those 10 or so made the difference? Hard to say, it's slicing it really thin. But that's not the point -- the timing is just too close to matter to them, and they will reserve the right to feel responsible for it. Also, I don't know about any of you, but I would consider that ring to be a bloody ring of accussaion and guilt. I'd probably deliberately lose it somehwere where I was unlikely to find it again. But Mitsuki kept it and wore it for years, like some kind of demonic symbol of her greedy triumph. LOL. __________________ The Super Genius

2003-11-07, 20:56	Link #16
musouka Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Wrongfully accused? How so? Mainly what I see people accusing her of is: A. Distracting Takayuki from his dates. Both times she used something that's fairly hard to say no to. One was "I really need to talk about something important" (prevailing upon his friendship) and the other was "It's my birthday [so come and buy me something]" (again prevailing upon his friendship). No, she did not hold a gun to his head, but neither did she give him the option of "Oh, you're busy? How about after the date, or later this week?" Since Mitsuki is his friend, and she's appealing to his sense of duty as a friend, it would be rude to turn her down in both instances. Granted, could he have said "Gee, I'm running late. I'll buy you dinner tommorow to make up for it!"? Absolutely. But you seem to fail to recall that both times it was her pushing him to break his dates. Then there's always... B. Having sex with Takayuki at a time when he vunerable and not thinking straight Okay, who was the one that instiganted contact here? It's not like nearly-comatose!Takayuki looked at her and said "Hey, bay-bee, I know what'll fix me right up! Take off your clothes!" She's not completely to blame for either of these, yes, but again, she is the one that started it. It's not like Takayuki met her when he was on his way to Haruka and said "Hey, I'm running late, but here, let me stop and take even MORE time to buy you something! Oh, it's your birthday? Even better." Again, Mitsuki is human. People want to set her up as this poor, angelic long suffering friend, when she hasn't exactly been the best friend someone could have. I don't think she's a slutty whore or anything, I just think that she's more selfish than some of her fans care to admit. And while these things might not be entirely her fault, it's hardly as if she had no part to play in what happened.

2003-11-07, 21:09	Link #17
Key Board Donut Join Date: Nov 2003	Agreed. She was forced to a breaking point and understandably so, since she apparently had to bear most of the burden of the situation. Shinji was in his own world, and GOD KNOWS where Takayuki's parents are. Of course, there was Akane, but she too was preoccupied with Haruka and she too had her own school life to worry about.

2003-11-08, 03:11	Link #18
CrazyFlamer Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2003	Some pretty strong points being thrown back and forth. I would like to say one thing. Apparently Kimi ga Nozomu has attratied a very mature aduidence(sp). The different views seem to be strong, but yet there's not even a hint of fighting. After reading them I have to say I love the anime a lot more than before which I didn't even think to be possible. I myself am a huge Haruka fan. My girlfriend in real life is so much like her it isn't funny. I was so sad when that car came and suddenly ruined things. I didn't blame Mitsuki, I blamed it fully on the drunk driver. Anyway, just thought i'd share that.

2003-11-08, 05:14	Link #19
ognir Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003	[QUOTE=Crimson] So you guys can hate Mitsuki all you want but if it wasn't for her then Haruka would have probably commited suicide of something after getting turned down by Takayuki. lol Actually, in episode 1, Takayuki had already turned down Haruka on the phone, and the scenes afterward had proved that Haruka still lived normally until Takayuki took her from the train station to the mountain and confuessed to her that he liked her.

2003-11-08, 09:13	Link #20
Sepiraph Arayashiki Join Date: May 2003 Location: On the Internet	If anything, I'd blame the driver. It is an accident and one can't place a blame on Mitsuki for causing it.