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Old 2006-12-07, 14:33   Link #1
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[Manga] Chapter 255 Discussion

Don’t Breathe in the Bush

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Old 2006-12-07, 14:47   Link #2
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Aizen's and Ichimaru's thoughts are the only interesting part of this chapter. It is as if they want to see the Ichigo band to grow in strength so that it can help them achieve something later on.
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Old 2006-12-07, 14:59   Link #3
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Aizen's and Ichimaru's thoughts are the only interesting part of this chapter. It is as if they want to see the Ichigo band to grow in strength so that it can help them achieve something later on.
Yeah Aizen was more bothered about time taken by Dol to be defeated than Dol's actual defeat .. And in a cryptic way Aizen discusses about Ichigo's progress and leatsu . Aizen showed a keen intrest in Ichigo during SS arc pawnage .

Maybe somewhere down the line Ichigo fits into Aizen's masterplan
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Old 2006-12-07, 15:41   Link #4
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Geez what kind of plans does Aizen have for Ichigo? I love the convo between Aizen and Gin. Heh. AizenxGin for the win! That's why Matsumoto never could seduce him, Aizen seduced Gin first!

Lol at Ishida.
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Old 2006-12-07, 20:37   Link #5
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i think aizen must know something more about ichigo's family. i think it's fairly obvious that he knows who his father is. (my theory, and it is nothing more than a theory, is that aizen is somehow going to use ichigo to open up the ss king's realm. kind of like how kariya had to use ishida to open up soul society. just a theory.)

btw, what's with gin? does he have a job? he still seems to be lurking all the time. i thought it was just something he did back in ss while he was being a spy of sorts. but he is still lurking in the shadows. and he's fond of talking to people with his back turned to them. not that i'm complaining as anytime i see uruhara or ichimaru i am happy!

anyone want to guess at who is in the shadows behind ishida? i'm willing to put money on it just being the other hollow that was with nell (the third one as the second guy is with renji now). if not that, then my longshot guess is we may be seeing papa quincy already.
( "i hate you son" "i hate you dad" *both kill the espada* "i still hate you son" "ditto" )
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Old 2006-12-07, 21:28   Link #6
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OMG!! Y is Ishida getting bashed so badly!! This is not even an esparda yet!

interesting chapter, i want to kno what Aizen is plotting lol
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Old 2006-12-08, 02:40   Link #7
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Geez what kind of plans does Aizen have for Ichigo? I love the convo between Aizen and Gin. Heh. AizenxGin for the win! That's why Matsumoto never could seduce him, Aizen seduced Gin first!

Lol at Ishida.
lol......that would be weird to see aizen-gin's baby espadas running around hollow world.

where's the blind dude anyway? he's havent been seen for a while. if ishida is getting his ass whooped by that crazy bitch, i wonder how chad handle the other ex-espada. i just hope chad doesn't die, cuz he's the weakest link.

this series is becoming so much like DBZ. classic formula for manga/anime that will get kids (and nerds) hooked forever. step 1: Enemy is strong, main guy must get strong to defeat enemy. step 2: main guy get stronger than enemy, main guy killed enemy, everything is good....for a short time. Step 3: new enemy show up, stronger than main guy. step 4: back to step 1 and repeat the cycle.

I am hoping in future chapter, the dads will come down and help kick espada's ass. i wanna see isshin and daddy quincy (i dunno his name) do some major ass kickin.
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Old 2006-12-08, 14:01   Link #8
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Don't you hate it that Bankai are now being so degraded, its not even worth using at all...

I mean seriously, Ichigo needed his ultimate skill to defeat some loser ex-espada. Even Aizen would be disappointed.

Anyway, its really lame for the hollow side. They are apparently so weak that Aizen can just come in and walk all over them and become their king.

So its seems as though we have to wait for Qunicy to finish his fight, then wait for Chad then Rukia, then Renji. Hope they don't take too long. lol
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Old 2006-12-08, 14:47   Link #9
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So its seems as though we have to wait for Qunicy to finish his fight, then wait for Chad then Rukia, then Renji. Hope they don't take too long. lol
Well if you ever read the last arc of the Flame of Recca manga thats what happened there. Everyone is together, splits, go through all seperate fights, together, seperates, fight.....Its the standard group-adventure-tourney style.

I love how Aizen was disappointed in Ichigo though....I guess he just gave him to much credit.
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Old 2006-12-08, 15:56   Link #10
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Chad is my fave character but i won't be surprised when he struggles with his opponent. However, i'm surprised and disappointed that Ishida is struggling with his, at least at this stage. Ishida is supposed to be the foil to Ichigo! I know he's not supposed to be as strong as him but i at least figured he'd be more skilled. I was hoping he wouldn't have much trouble until he encounted the Espada. He's a tactical fighter so i just wanted him to be strong. There aren't many of those in Bleach. And that Chirichi girls weapon is interesting. That at least makes me happy.
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Old 2006-12-09, 09:09   Link #11
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Anyway, its really lame for the hollow side. They are apparently so weak that Aizen can just come in and walk all over them and become their king.
You mean the Arrancar? They didn't exist before Aizen came along with his Orb-of-Whatever and made them. So I guess it's natural that'd he'd be their leader. He's their creator. And from what I've seen, most Hollow aren't that strong... so, yeah, Aizen basically took over the place.
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Old 2006-12-09, 10:56   Link #12
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Yes. Before hougyouku, there probably were arrancars and espadas like doldoni. Im not surprised ichigo had to use bankai, anyway. Dont forget, arrancar and espada would be naturally stronger than shinigami because of their removal of limit.
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Old 2006-12-09, 15:08   Link #13
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it's pretty clear that Ichigo only went all out as a sign of respect.


Ishida having a hard time is not a big suprise. His opponent is not Kon... a espada, even if it's a "ex" one will be a strong opponent.
Also, he was out of the loop the longest. He was without his power until very very recently so he will need some time to get to his peak.
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Uryuu is fighting a Dominatrix..


Dominatrix would normally be good, awesome infact.


But...I WANT NELL!!! t%rgfg^%$#&^#1
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Old 2006-12-10, 01:03   Link #15
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Don't you hate it that Bankai are now being so degraded, its not even worth using at all...
To me, this is the biggest shortcoming of bleach so far.... they have completely downplayed the power of bankai, reducing it to a stepping stone. Unfortunately it was the stepping stone upon which SS is judged.. so it leaves a lot to be desired.

They had an entire arc devoted to the development of power and peaking at bankai, only to have it trashed so soon afterwards... What makes it sad is that it had a lot of potential for variety and ideas.
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well consider that just achieving bankai is not the epitome of power, There are levels to it, and training to master it.
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Old 2006-12-10, 11:57   Link #17
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(experienced) bankai or a similar hollow power level was supposed to be the peak, until hybridization came along and trashed it. that's the whole point of the houguyoku, to surpass the limit. since the story of bleach progresses with ichigo, now he himself has gone past "the peak", it's only fair for bankai to step down from the power throne. plus, kubo's shown bankai captains getting trashed in the S.S. arc by non-bankai non-hybrid individuals way before. in the end it all comes down to raw power, look at vaizard ichigo, or yamaji. if you're 3 times stronger and faster than chuck norris you'll crush him like a toothpick regardless if you've spent time in a dojo or not. whatever skill/bankai one possesses only starts to matter when the opponent is on a similar power level.
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This is wrong.
It was strongly implied, that Arrancar (and Vaizards) are things which occur "naturally", though very rarely... just look at Nell.
but we don't know if Aizen was the one who named them and made all those classes, cause he was working with HM before obtaining power to create new Arrancars
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I felt there was so much more potential to Bankai but I think they just glazed over it to Vizard/Arrancar. Prehaps they are running out of time to finish it, its hards to tie up every loose end.

Why would Ichigo use his Bankai when he can use his Vizard powers? Have you seen anyone defeat a Bankai with a Shikai before? Why would Ichi want to use his Bankai anymore?
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Have you seen anyone defeat a Bankai with a Shikai before?
Kenpachi didn't even need a shikai.
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