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Old 2007-04-03, 01:05   Link #281
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Perhaps my use of "good generals" wasn't a very good word choice. I meant that Shu had the most top-tier generals, then Wu, then Wei. It's obviously quite a bit more complicated than that, but I don't really want to get into specifics. By the way, I'd definitely include the strategists in that assessment.
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Old 2007-04-03, 01:08   Link #282
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Perhaps my use of "good generals" wasn't a very good word choice. I meant that Shu had the most top-tier generals, then Wu, then Wei. It's obviously quite a bit more complicated than that, but I don't really want to get into specifics. By the way, I'd definitely include the strategists in that assessment.
If you include the strategist thent he list goes even more Wei heavy.
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Old 2007-04-03, 01:23   Link #283
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Perhaps my use of "good generals" wasn't a very good word choice. I meant that Shu had the most top-tier generals, then Wu, then Wei. It's obviously quite a bit more complicated than that, but I don't really want to get into specifics. By the way, I'd definitely include the strategists in that assessment.
I wouldn't say they were the true "top tier", but the Shu generals definitely had more spot lights in the novel. Which often resulting in modern adaptations, such as video games, to portray them as a step above the others.

If one had to make a true Tier-list going by the feats in the novel, then the upper top tier would be flooded with Wei and Shu generals.

I really don't think RotTK portrayed the Wu generals as all that strong or described about them as much as the others, so I was a bit surprised that Ikkitousen started with Sun Ce being the main character and all O.o
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Old 2007-04-03, 02:16   Link #284
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The Wu have been my favorite since DW4, character-wise. Sun Ce, Sun Jian, Sun Shang Xiang, Zhou Tai (my favorite to play as), Lu Meng, and the Qiao sisters FTW.I have favorites in the other two armies too (Guan Yu, Zhuge Liang, Zhao Yun, Zhen Ji, and of course my original favorite, Xiahou Dun), but Wu is by far the best overall.
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Old 2007-04-03, 07:12   Link #285
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If you have played the Romance of Three Kingdoms tactical game series, I think that would influence people's perception of the generals too. They have real numbers as stats after all. In that game, there are relatively few Wu generals that have top strengths.

Sun Ce is probably one of the strongest general from Wu, especially from that game

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Old 2007-04-03, 08:15   Link #286
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Yeah, Sun Quon isn't anywhere near as cool as the rest of his family.

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Old 2007-04-03, 17:38   Link #287
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I wouldn't say they were the true "top tier", but the Shu generals definitely had more spot lights in the novel. Which often resulting in modern adaptations, such as video games, to portray them as a step above the others.

If one had to make a true Tier-list going by the feats in the novel, then the upper top tier would be flooded with Wei and Shu generals.

I really don't think RotTK portrayed the Wu generals as all that strong or described about them as much as the others, so I was a bit surprised that Ikkitousen started with Sun Ce being the main character and all O.o
I would to agree with you on the novel aspect. Shu always seemed to have more of a spotlight than the rest, perhaps because Liu Bei wanted a kingdom built on virtue. It really shows in the video game adaptations also the fact that Zhuge Liang sided with Shu might have had a hand in it. But in terms of generals i would have to say Shu and Wei did stand out. Cao Cao had some of the most fiercely loyal generals. Like Dian Wei,Xiahou Dun, Xiahou Yuan, and one of favorites Cao Ren and Zhang Liao.

Shu's generals of course were very loyal as well, Of course Guan Yu and Zhang Fei along with Zhao Yun and later Jiang Wei.

I was also surprised that they put Sun Ce as the main character in Ikkitousen. But than again the series is very loosely based so we cant really compare it all that much to the novel
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Old 2007-04-03, 18:45   Link #288
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Have watched ep 5 subbed.

1. Loved the BGM during the Teni/Ryomou fight.

2. Cho'un's awesomeness should not to praised from her defeating of Ryomou. We all know that upon first aweakening, the bearers are unconcious and they are thus easily defeated. Remember in the first season? Sonsaku awoke during her first match with Ryomou and she was taken out with one punch from Saji. So, Cho-un awesomeness should be praised from her battles in the manga. They were supe awe...And as she said herself, if Ryomou hadn't been made into mince by Teni, she might have lost.

3. I wonder how they are going to explain Ryomou's dragon in the anime? They better not use that fight with Hakufu.

4. Kan'u and Cho'un, what exactly is going on btn you two I wonder.

5. I loved how Sonsaku was all worried about Mou-chan. it reminds me of Haruhi's fretting over Yuki in 'Snow Mountain Syndrome'. I am a sucker for such simple things. Thus, I await possibilities btn Sonsaku and Ryomou.

6. Saji-kun, whatever happened to you? Where art thou Saji? Did you already meet thy maker without our knowledge?

Ehe he, couldn't resist.
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Old 2007-04-03, 18:50   Link #289
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1. Loved the BGM during the Teni/Ryomou fight.
I've been very impressed with the musical score from this series --- a lot better then the first. Love the Guilty Gear style that they've gone for. I REALLY need a OST release.

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6. Saji-kun, whatever happened to you? Where art thou Saji? Did you already meet thy maker without our knowledge?
Just my luck that my fav' character from the series hasn't even appeared yet.. i'm starting to think it won't happen at all --- unless they add him right at the end smiling, I'D LOVE THAT!

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Old 2007-04-04, 03:45   Link #290
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Anyone here heard about the DVD specials?

One word, onsen!
Do you mean the trailer or the limited edition DVD thing that was released in Japan a while back?
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Old 2007-04-04, 05:52   Link #291
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There;s a special DVD only OVA in the DVD just released.
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Old 2007-04-04, 10:32   Link #292
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who is the strongest character for the series? it seems that the girls are somewhat stronger than the boys here and so far wiki says that this series is about 13 episodes long.


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Old 2007-04-04, 16:34   Link #293
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parts of episode 6 is out in youtube already
Episode 6 was pretty lame, all things considered. All that happened was Koumei getting recruited by Ryuubi. Almost no action at all.

The next ep preview on the other hand...
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Old 2007-04-04, 18:45   Link #294
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Saw ep5.All episodes are great as hell. The chicks are super. Sousou kicks ass.
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Old 2007-04-04, 21:28   Link #295
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So, who wants to take bets on who dies.
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Old 2007-04-04, 23:25   Link #296
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*watches episode 3*

Twintails girl is hot. I thought that she was just going to be cannon fodder for a second... that would have been a waste.

Its nice to see Hakufu back as the lead.
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Old 2007-04-05, 00:01   Link #297
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It's interesting that Rin Shin, the character designer for I: DD did some hentai OVAs. Makes me wonder why there is so much fanservice in the series. No one gave credit on ANN for Satoshi Urushihara, who did the character design and animation on the ending. At first, I thought the characters were the same design, but their facial expressions and eyes are almost completely lifeless. The girls still look hot though.
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Old 2007-04-05, 08:12   Link #298
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so...
speaking of eps. 6
what was all that talking about?
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Old 2007-04-05, 12:11   Link #299
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The anime is really catching up with the manga. Volume 11 of the English translation is to be released next week according to the Tokyopop website (a day after Volume 4 of Battle Club oddly enough).

I've noticed a theme with the illustrations used for the ad breaks for both series. In series one we mostly had images of the characters in their nightwear (I think only Kanu was shown wearing something other than pyjamas, but she had 2 images). This series we have the girls in cosplay (Ryomou as a cop, Ryubi as a kitty, Kaku as a nun, Teni as a gymnist and Chouhui in a kind of Little Bo Peep costume. Goei is just in a bikini, so I think she's being a MILF).

I hope my favourite character, Ukitsu appears soon. If she does not get killed off in both manga and anime I will be really relieved. There's nothing mentioned in her fate that she will be killed but you never know.
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Old 2007-04-05, 13:02   Link #300
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so...
speaking of eps. 6
what was all that talking about?

what aroduc posted was basically it. the girls fought the two Shaolin Monks and were defeated but we didnt see no action.

then it was Koumei getting recruited by Ryuubi

http://www.seiha.org/blog/?p=36
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