[Manga] Chapter 335 Discussion

[Mr. Johnny 5]

To become a jounin the person needs to be highly skilled in the area's genjutsu, ninjutsu & taijutsu. This rank is probably given on personal tests of the hokage or reputation..after discussing or reading mission rapports etc.

Anyway Naruto will probably show up after the Wind Attack...begins..

I kinda hate it that Ino cant be used...she seemed extremly usefull but is made useless again...only healing...

I am glad about Chouji....he became a true fighter...not scared one bit...just...constantly suprised. And i thought Shika was low on chakra...and what is that stuff!? Chakra refill? Senzubean? Kakashi got it from Shika but gave it back.

And then Kakashi is asking for the plan...Kakashi would claimed to be as smart as or smarter then Shika...hah...why doesnt he think of something? MS is out of the question now...

[gibits]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Gaara

Yeah but this is Narutoverse Kakuzo just made 4 masks come out of his body and be exactly the same I'm just saying that the Brain is the sourse of the mind and personality as the heart (in narutoverse) his a source of chakra and we can see Kakuzo car easly replace hearts (his words)

If the brain is the seat of ones mind and personality in this world then how do you explain Sasori? All he had was a chunk of meat, yet it was enough to mold chakra and hold all his memories.

[Uchiha_Gaara]

@Mr. Johnny 5
"To become a jounin the person needs to be highly skilled in the area's genjutsu, ninjutsu & taijutsu"
What about Gai ?

And about Ino I agree, she's still on with that tec. not even an upgrade in this 2.5years like shika's upgrade to multi target or close range KM ? Ino really does suck !

@gibits
Sasori had a heart and most definitly a brain (brain was not confirmed) but can be presumed since he kept his heart he would keep his brain !

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by gibits

That's 4 times Hidan has been caught by the same justu, talk about dense.

Ok, lol I read the last two pages and noticed allot of Hidan bashing, ok the guy is not a genius but, you got to give him more credit then that guys. Firstly Shikamaru's Kagemane, has evolved to an insane level. Chakra blades, Tentacles that throw them, and lastly the most surprising of all, using his shadow like gum and punching you block your shadow's touch your fucked. I mean come on, which one of us here even expected that from a Jutsu that requires hand seals? Hidan sure as hell didn’t, what was he to do but block Shikmaru's punch, give Hidan some credit he really tried hard dodging that last one, who expected him to stick his scythe in the tree and then stand on it to avoid the chakra blade?

Originally Posted by ProtoMan

I'm wondering if "that thing" isn't actually a sample of Hidan's blood. Then they may try to force Hidan's to use his voodoo technique on himself and see what happens

Wouldn’t matter, Hidan feel's every pain as he was killing Asuma he felt every stab he took at him self, even the critical stab that killed Asuma, Hidan is immortal even if he did swallow some of his own blood, he would stab him self and realize nothing is happening and just stop after the first stab. Also I'm sure Hidan has swallowed his own blood plenty of times during fights, as Sabaku Kyu stated.

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

I wonder why Shikamaru wasn't promoted to Jounin during the timeskip?

Isn’t one of the requirements for Jounin is to have control over at least 2 elements? (If my memory serves me correct)

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

but I'd like some kind of backstory before he dies.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Nanatsu

Anyone consider that it might be Kakuzu's blood somehow? I mean Kakashi did just put a hand through his chest...

Does Kakuzu even have blood? That guys inside's are full of thread's I haven’t seen him bleed yet, there was no blood during the Raikiri either.., still wouldn’t matter, one stab and Hidan will notice nothing is happening and he will stop also, Shikamaru will have to pretend to get hit by his scythe and plant blood on it which wont be easy, even if he forces Hidan to lick some one else’s blood, he cant force Hidan to do his jutsu.

Originally Posted by Suna no tate

I did find it interesting that ino said if she missed she couldn't return to her body or something. In the past, we've seen her miss with no consequence (ie sakura in chuunin exam, ino missed several times). Wonder whats going on there...

She cant return to her body for a few minutes which leaves her defense less, but just enough time for anyone to kick her ass. During the Chuunin exam, or any time before that she never missed Shinranshin No Jutsu, during the exam she tossed her hair (that she cut off) then pretended to Shinranshin No Jutsu while Sakura ran around, and then fell to the floor (pretending) Sakura stopped thinking Ino missed and her spirit would not return to her body for a few minutes, that’s when Ino sent her Chakra through her hair and captured Sakura with it, then did the real Shinranshin No Jutsu.



In any case as for which Mask was broken I'm not taking any guess's right now it seems to bring upon heavy contradiction, as far as it goes 5 heart's means 5 elements and nothing more, wither 1 heart is his own, or all 5 heart's are from other shinobi's does not matter because 5 hearts = 5 elements so he has all the elements, we cant be totally sure as to which elemental heart was broken Kishimoto is very slick hasn’t had Kakuzu use Earth OR Water since the first mask was broken he obviously wants us to keep debating this subject.

One last thing, I see a lot of people claiming that Ino is a medical ninja?? When did this happen, or did I miss something correct me if I’m wrong (seriously lol) Ino is not a medical Ninja at least to my knowledge. Also yea she still hasn’t done anything but neither has chouji (without Shikamaru’s permission) Once again Ino is the type of Ninja you use as a fail safe, when shit hit’s the fan, her jutsu requires special conditions EX: Target has to be held down etc…

[Uchiha_Gaara]

@0TaKu0
"Isn’t one of the requirements for Jounin is to have control over at least 2 elements? (If my memory serves me correct) "
Again how about Gai ?

One last thing, I see a lot of people claiming that Ino is a medical ninja?? When did this happen, or did I miss something correct me if I’m wrong (seriously lol) Ino is not a medical Ninja at least to my knowledge. Also yea she still hasn’t done anything but neither has chouji (without Shikamaru’s permission) Once again Ino is the type of Ninja you use as a fail safe, when shit hit’s the fan, her jutsu requires special conditions EX: Target has to be held down etc…

Yes she is a medical ninja, don't know to what level but in the first fight with Kakuzo and Hidan Ino was about to perform medical jutso on Asuma ! And Chouji at least showed a little evolution on his jutso Ino hasn't and Chouji has participated a lot more in this fight showing a lot of maturity grown like not being afraid all the time like pre-timeskip !

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Gaara

@0TaKu0
"Isn’t one of the requirements for Jounin is to have control over at least 2 elements? (If my memory serves me correct) "
Again how about Gai ?

We saw Gai use element minipulation I mean he used Asa Kujaku, who's to say he doesnt know how to minipulate another element?

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Gaara

Yes she is a medical ninja, don't know to what level but in the first fight with Kakuzo and Hidan Ino was about to perform medical jutso on Asuma ! And Chouji at least showed a little evolution on his jutso Ino hasn't and Chouji has participated a lot more in this fight showing a lot of maturity grown like not being afraid all the time like pre-timeskip !

Ahh yes! Point taken, some how I forgot about it, might have been partying too hard last night. I guess anytime I think Medical Ninja Sakura is the only one who pops in to my mind, that’s probably why Ino!! Wanabe Sakura xD.

[Uchiha_Gaara]

When did Gai use element manipulation ? and what the hell is Asa Kujaku ?

"Ino!! Wanabe Sakura xD" completly

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Gaara

When did Gai use element manipulation ? and what the hell is Asa Kujaku ?

During the chapter when Gai fight's the Kisame clone, he uses Asa Kujaku (Morning Peacock) and flames shoot out all over the place.

[Uchiha_Gaara]

I don't think that was flame coming out, it was misinterpreted, it's just to show the power of is fists hitting at great speed !

[Sabaku Kyu]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Gaara

When did Gai use element manipulation ? and what the hell is Asa Kujaku ?

"Ino!! Wanabe Sakura xD" completly

Asa Kujaku means "Morning Peacock" Gai used this technique when he opened the 6th gate against Kisame. When he uses this technique his hands are surrounded in flames and he rapidly punches the opponent.Presumably, he uses fire manipulation but this hasn't been specifically stated.

Originally Posted by 0TaKu0

Isn’t one of the requirements for Jounin is to have control over at least 2 elements? (If my memory serves me correct)

Kakashi states that most jounin can use at least two elements. I took it to mean that it's a preference but not a requirement. But even if it is a requirement, Shika could've been made a tokubetsu jounin. I mean, if you need two forms of element manipulation to become a jounin, what hope does Lee have? He can't even mold chakra!

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Gaara

I don't think that was flame coming out, it was misinterpreted, it's just to show the power of is fists hitting at great speed !

Morning Peacock

Morning PeacockName: Asa Kujaku, 朝孔雀, literally "Morning Peacock"

Users: Might Guy

Exclusive to Might Guy, this jutsu uses six of the eight chakra gates to give the user unmatched speed and strength. After the gates are open, Guy will approach his opponent in a somewhat distinctive stance and, once he gets close enough, kick them into the air. He then hits his opponent over and over, causing a peacock-like fan of flaming chakra to develop. Once Guy is finished, his opponent will fall back to the ground, covered in the attack's aura. Unlike Rock Lee's Reverse Lotus, which uses fewer gates and leaves Lee much worse off, Guy is not visibly injured after using the attack.

Those are clearly flames lol. Though it has not been stated that it is a fire technique or that Gai uses element manipulation, so your not wrong either.

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by Sabaku Kyu

Kakashi states that most jounin can use at least two elements. I took it to mean that it's a preference but not a requirement. But even if it is a requirement, Shika could've been made a tokubetsu jounin. I mean, if you need two forms of element manipulation to become a jounin, what hope does Lee have? He can't even mold chakra!

Ah, I took it as a requirement due to translation error, bah (this is why now I compare 2-3 different translations). As for Lee, I was thinking if indeed it is a requirement (I doubt it, I did have my doubts) then maybe its a hint that Lee will be able to mold Chakra in the future?

[Uchiha_Gaara]

"I mean, if you need two forms of element manipulation to become a jounin, what hope does Lee have? He can't even mold chakra!"
Exactly, I don't even know how he got to chunin or even passed the academy exam, Lee just can't use chakra at any level execept to enhance is fisical habilities

"Though it has not been stated that it is a fire techinique or that gai uses element minipulation"
Yeah maybe it is, we have to wait for kishi's confirmation!

[Kinder]

Originally Posted by gibits

I'm sorry, but as med student i take a bit of offense to this. This is a manga, its made up so yes in a fictional world i guess replacing body parts is easy, even brain implantations.

But your trying to make a real life comparsion please know that transplants of any kind are hard. Hard to get the parts, hard to put them in, hard to maintain them and on and on. Heart transplant is THE hardest of them all, so please do all future heart surgeons a favor and take that comment back.

And ur a med student? LMAO

[Luminion Lancer]

-Not that I disagree with you 0Taku0 but could it be at all possible that the flames appearing during that attack is the result of the 6th Gate Opening? All I'm saying is that when Lee opened the 3rd Gate his chakra became quite visible and changed colour. Then again it is also possible that Gai has the affinity for fire. LOL, maybe Naruto should learn how to open the Gates as well and give Sasuke-hime a literal butt-kicking .

[0TaKu0]

Originally Posted by Fukitsu Naruto

-Not that I disagree with you 0Taku0 but could it be at all possible that the flames appearing during that attack is the result of the 6th Gate Opening? All I'm saying is that when Lee opened the 3rd Gate his chakra became quite visible and changed colour. Then again it is also possible that Gai has the affinity for fire. LOL, maybe Naruto should learn how to open the Gates as well and give Sasuke-hime a literal butt-kicking .

^^ Nah it's cool, I'm an open minded person in fact, I was the one who argued against Rurik that it wasn’t flames or even a flame technique that, the reason the flames were created could have been due to kenetic energy, meaning his punches were so fast it was creating flames, like how something enters the earths atmosphere at high speed's.

Though Rurik was against it, but yea it wasn’t really stated that's a fire element technique, neither was it stated if Gai can use element manipulation or not, but as far as it goes "Kakashi states that most jounin can use at least two elements" While Sabaku Kyu took it as a preference I took it as requirement due to mistranslation. I guess if that was the case Rock Lee will remain a Genin forever, lol ^^.

However, if it is a requirement and it wasn’t a mistranslation then, maybe its a hint that Rock Lee can mold chakra sometime in the future. In any case, we know Gai can mold chakra, and we know he’s a jounin I think it would be safe to assume that he can use at least one element manipulation since it was never mentioned if he can or can not.

[Sinaura]

Question: Did Hidan join Akatsuki the way Sasori did, like fighting all of the Akatsuki members. I know th way to join Akatsuki is still unknown, but Sasori's words made it somewhat clear as to what was required. How the hell did Hidan beat them without killing them? Just wounding them greatly? Or is it different when you join because you replace a member who dies/deserts? Just an interesting note.

[tatami]

when was it stated?

[IVIavrick]

Hmm.. after reading this chapter and discovering that Kakuzu killed 4(or 5) ninja to take their hearts and nature affinities, I came across the interesting notion that...
maybe those hearts are the hearts of his former akatsuki partners who he always kills...
but its just a thought....

[kikko_s]

maybe those hearts are the hearts of his former akatsuki partners who he always kills...

Maybe. I saw there were masks on them, so maybe they're ANBU-type shinobi sent to track down and kill him that he wound up incorporating into himself.

On a completely different note...




'Nuff said. Change the name of the manga and anime series to "Shikamaru."

[Sogoro]

Originally Posted by IVIavrick

Hmm.. after reading this chapter and discovering that Kakuzu killed 4(or 5) ninja to take their hearts and nature affinities, I came across the interesting notion that...
maybe those hearts are the hearts of his former akatsuki partners who he always kills...
but its just a thought....

I would think this would be the most likely of possibilities.