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Old 2007-01-29, 10:20   Link #121
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Unlike most people in this thread who believe that they are Masashi Kishimoto and whatever they say is right, I am merely presenting one possible interpretation that Naruto is not the Forth. You're right, the third coffin could have contained anyone, but "it is probably safe to assume" that it is the Forth, if you follow the trend.

All i was trying to say was that its possible that perhaps the third coffin was not the 4th hokage but another Hokage level character thats why i brought up the fact of the White Fang on Konoha. it seemed plausible. but right now i doubt anyone can be sure, except Kishimoto himself. I guess we will only find out in time
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Old 2007-01-29, 10:45   Link #122
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This point has been brought up several times before. Even though it's likely that Oro was trying to summon Yondaime he shouldn't have been able to summon him either way because if the 4th did indeed die during the fight with Kyuubi, his soul would've been devoured by the shinigami and couldn't be used for Edo Tensei. Seeing as Oro obviously didn't know about the existence of Shiki Fuujin, much less how it works, him trying to summon Yondaime isn't really conclusive evidence that he's dead.
True i see your reasoning but little is known what actually happened between Yondaime and the Kyuubi apart from that Yondaime seemingly used death god technique but it still makes you think why he didnt just take the kyuubi with him into the death god. If it wasnt the fourth in the coffin it does make you think who it was since Orochimaru would try to summon a powerful opponent for the third and since he had to make a sacrifice for it i recon it would be a powerful fighter.

Whoever it was surely made the third worry because even though he didnt know much about orochimarus technique he certainly knew about the death god technique knowing that IF the fourth had used it then there would be no way Oro could summon him unless something else had happened in the fight vs the kyuubi.
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Old 2007-01-29, 10:52   Link #123
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does anyone know what was written on the coffins? there was some kanji on the coffins when they were summoned what did they say?
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Old 2007-01-29, 11:53   Link #124
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does anyone know what was written on the coffins? there was some kanji on the coffins when they were summoned what did they say?
They say 1st and 2nd.
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Old 2007-01-29, 19:06   Link #125
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This may sound stupid but instead of the yondaime being naruto's dad(which I think almost everyone believes >.>), he could be his brother because he was the youngest hokage ever and wasn't very old o.0 it isn't likely but still possible
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Old 2007-01-30, 00:02   Link #126
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I would say it is possible...I don't know how likely, though. It stands to reason that if one soul is trapped in Naruto, the other may be as well (seeing as both souls are supposed to be trapped together). I kinda hope he is, I think that'd be interesting...plus it's a good way to keep Naruto alive should his Kitsune get ripped out.
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Old 2007-01-30, 00:17   Link #127
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I think the fourth technique goes this way. The sealer is doomed to stay in the belly of the death god. There are two options for the sealed. You can trap the soul of the sealed in a living soul which is the case for Naruto, in which case only the sealer is ends up inside the death god. Or you can trap the soul of the sealed inside you as you get swallowed by the death god. In the second scenario which the 3rd tried to implement with Oro, the sealer and the sealed fight for eternity inside the death god .. etc.
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Old 2007-01-30, 15:29   Link #128
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They say 1st and 2nd.

yes but what does the third one say, its writing is different
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Old 2007-01-30, 16:09   Link #129
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yes but what does the third one say, its writing is different

Because actually the 3rd one never did came out, so we never got to see the sign in it, It was anime filler when part of the last coffin was shown.
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Old 2007-01-30, 16:23   Link #130
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i think the anime was wrong because i re watched the episode and the kanji read 4th. i dont think that it was the fourth though in the coffin
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Old 2007-01-30, 16:45   Link #131
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I don't think it is eithercuz theres too much talk for someone who is dead.
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Old 2007-01-30, 21:08   Link #132
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Did the kanji on the coffin say 3rd or 4th?

If it said 4th it means it was Yondaime. Although really he shouldn't be able to be summoned since he should be somewhere in the deathgods stomache

if it said 3rd, that means it's just the 3rd coffin and it can be anyone.

OR MAYBE IT MEANS THAT ITS SANDAIME'S OTHER HALF THAT DIED


no im kidding.

I think kishimoto is evil, he made it seem as though sandaime used yondaime's technique to seal orochimaru, but I bet you later he'll explain that the 4th used a different jutsu and some weird stuff happens. Jeeze
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Old 2007-01-31, 10:13   Link #133
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it definately said fourth i know the letters in Japanese. it was the kanji for 4th but it was the anime ot manga
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Old 2007-01-31, 23:44   Link #134
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Originally 3 corpses were supposed to be summoned, but the Third stopped one of the coffins from being summoned. The first two coffins contained the bodies of the First and Second. It is probably safe to assume that the third coffin would have contained the Forth; this means that the Forth is dead. The picture is from chapter 117 page 19.
If the third coffin failed...and inside the third conffin was supposed to be Yon sama, then he's still alive!!!! akakakakakakaka

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This may sound stupid but instead of the yondaime being naruto's dad(which I think almost everyone believes >.>), he could be his brother because he was the youngest hokage ever and wasn't very old o.0 it isn't likely but still possible
It is most likely possible, the circle is now complete...Sasuke chasing after Itachi's shadow...and preparing himself to kill him VS Naruto striving to become Hokage cause he admired Yonsama-the brother and determined to live the way he did....wew

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it definately said fourth i know the letters in Japanese. it was the kanji for 4th but it was the anime ot manga
Well most likely, Kishi did a pretty good job in twisting our minds...only time will tell...let's just wait for him to reveal the truth

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Old 2007-02-01, 00:27   Link #135
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I think theres a possibility that the Third coffin contained

Spoiler for manga:

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Old 2007-02-01, 09:37   Link #136
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i still think naruto in his next fight should walk around in a clone of yondaime just to scare akatsuki off that his still alive hahaa
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Old 2007-02-01, 16:02   Link #137
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I think theres a possibility that the Third coffin contained

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I highly HIGHLY doubt that
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Old 2007-02-01, 23:25   Link #138
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this is somewhat off the point but can orochimaru use a body which he ressurected by edo tensei as a container?
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Old 2007-02-03, 03:43   Link #139
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Aahh... this was always my favorite theory, I never bought into the hole Yodaime is Naruto's dad thing... that's as bad as all the naruto x sasuke garbage that flies around.
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Concerning the above, he summoned 3 people, in the 3rd coffin it could have been anyone. There's no way that could have been the 4th in there, all theories concerning this deny this posibility.
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Old 2007-02-03, 04:10   Link #140
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This may sound stupid but instead of the yondaime being naruto's dad(which I think almost everyone believes >.>), he could be his brother because he was the youngest hokage ever and wasn't very old o.0 it isn't likely but still possible
...you know...I actually like that...that's not really even a stretch...*ponders*

The only question I have is why keep that fact from Naruto...I'm sure someone would know...judging from their inner monologues and discussions, Ero-sennin and Tsunade don't know...you'd figure they would, or at the least Jiraiya would, having been the 4th's team leader. I suppose they could have just been dancing around the issue, but that raises the question as to why (other than plot purposes)?

I would like that, though...
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