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Old 2009-07-09, 13:27   Link #2281
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actually the attack that took him out started BEFORE he took her head off
otherwise it wouldnt have worked (the machine shut down)
she already WON the fight as it were, suzaku was just able to make sure she wouldnt be able to get to lelouch in the end
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:32   Link #2282
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In fact the Guren made his attack before to shut down losing the head, like all the other knightmare.
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:32   Link #2283
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actually the attack that took him out started BEFORE he took her head off
otherwise it wouldnt have worked (the machine shut down)
she already WON the fight as it were, suzaku was just able to make sure she wouldnt be able to get to lelouch in the end
To-ma-to, to-mah-to. The thing to take away from all of that? Both times Suzaku has tried his spinkick on Kallen, he lost his leg, and the second time she didn't even have the superior machine (vastly, at least) and she still came out with two working arms.
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:38   Link #2284
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well she DID have a more high spec'd machine
but we dont know by how much
and its not like it would have mattered much

Lloyed made the albion as a custom KMF for suzaku's specific use
if he could have made it more high spec'd then it was, in a way that would allow suzaku to be MORE effective, then he would have made it that way
thats what a custom built machine means
its built to maximize the combat abilities of its pilot

the guren was more high spec'd because it wasnt custom built for ANYONE
it was basically a result of Lloyd and cecile playing around with it and just trying to see how strong they can make it
and the end result was a machine that kallen shouldnt even be able to USE, let alone use to the degree where she match's suzaku's custom model
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:40   Link #2285
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Guren was more powerful of the albion, but with the power "live on" suzaku could fight at the same level.
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:45   Link #2286
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Guren was more powerful of the albion, but with the power "live on" suzaku could fight at the same level.
i dont think the spec's made that big of a difference
read my above post for the why
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:49   Link #2287
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A knightmare can have two arms and two legs, but without the head they can't fight.
Too much precious systems in the head.
They aren't designed like a gundam with camera and emergency sensors in the main body
Actually, Kallen could have just did whatever she needed to do to make that screen in front of her go clear, as it's been shown to be able to do. Thing is she didn't need to because her attack worked.
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i dont think the spec's made that big of a difference
read my above post for the why
No, it actually kind of did. Kallen herself said so.
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Old 2009-07-09, 13:51   Link #2289
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No, it actually kind of did. Kallen herself said so.
i think that if Lloyd could have made the albion more high-spec'd then it already was, in a way that would allow suzaku to be more effective in combat, then he would have done that
thats what a custom built machine means
its built to maximize the pilot's effectiveness
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i think that if Lloyd could have made the albion more high-spec'd then it already was, in a way that would allow suzaku to be more effective in combat, then he would have done that
thats what a custom built machine means
its built to maximize the pilot's effectiveness
Guren Seiten > everything else.
Lancelot was close to that, but not in the same level, that is obvious.

Basically, think of it, like a Pro Evolution Soccer Game. Kallen has chosen the best team {say Barcelona} and Suzaku has chosen the next best one {say Lyon or something similar.} Kallen has the random arrows in her players {you know, the ones that indicate if the players are in their full modes of playing and stuff, green, grey, red and so on} while Suzaku with the "live on", manages to have all his playes on the perfect condition, meaning "red arrows".
So yeah, in a nutshell, it was mostly an even battle, because one trait of the other, was countered with something else. And i hope you have played Pro Evolution, because then you will have no idea what i am talking about, haha.
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Old 2009-07-09, 14:01   Link #2291
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you are completely right

i never played Pro Evolution Soccer Game
and indeed, i have NO IDEA what you just said

anyway, i know this isnt the place
but i have to say it
haruhi is making me a sad panda
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you are completely right

i never played Pro Evolution Soccer Game
and indeed, i have NO IDEA what you just said

anyway, i know this isnt the place
but i have to say it
haruhi is making me a sad panda
Ahh, just think that Suzaku's football team was all on steroids. Even if Kallen has the better team, it will be even cause of steroids. You get it now? 8D

//you fail btw, lol. Pro is like a cult football PS game, come on. |DD
Personally, no one has ever beaten me, when i choose Arsenal.{which is my fav team generally and yeah, things you do not give a shit about, i know, lol}
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fine
i'll accept your version of it
but i still dont think the spec difference would have made all that much difference
suzaku is freaking jesus yamato by the end
kallen fighting him on equal grounds for all that time is like mu beating kira

and i was never into soccer PC games
the last one i played was striker
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fine
i'll accept your version of it
but i still dont think the spec difference would have made all that much difference
suzaku is freaking jesus yamato by the end
kallen fighting him on equal grounds for all that time is like mu beating kira

and i was never into soccer PC games
the last one i played was striker

Basically, they were both excellent pilots and beat each other's shit there. I am telling you, in 100 battles between each other, Kallen would win 51 and Suzaku 49. Nearly even, but in a field, no matter what, someone is always the best. Even if the difference is just a 0.000001 inch. And i believe, that Kallen is just a bit, like million-less-bit better than Suzaku.
Partly, because she was used fighting in really dangerous situations and her reflexes were "forced" to get developed more. Suzaku, never really had any problem, until he fought Guren basically.
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However, speaking about mechas, I designed some new model of knightmare, just for a little use, they aren't part of the original show, but I can add the art in some place.
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Old 2009-07-09, 14:20   Link #2296
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However, speaking about mechas, I designed some new model of knightmare, just for a little use, they aren't part of the original show, but I can add the art in some place.
i hope you named it "The Bedivere"
or at least "the Robin"

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Old 2009-07-09, 14:37   Link #2297
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Well..not, the knightmare names are:

Gingalain (nonette enneagram Kmf)

Leodergance (it was the kmf of Dorothea ernst knight of four , but it was under repair during the kor assault, it was a custom gareth, lloyd recovered it and upgraded with the new technologies, now is the Kmf of Kyoko enneagram)

Mohrolt (Monica kruszewski kmf, a model for electronic war, but useless in a frontal attack, then monica leaved it in a hangar and used a sutherland during the kor assault, ashford lab recovered it and rakshata upgrade it, now is the kmf of Joséphine li britannia)

Tristan mk. III (new gino kmf, melee weapon and ecm/epm system for electronic war)

Sagramor (Amanda bradley [sister of luciano bradley] kmf, a new assault model, designed to cover the tristan mk.III, the two kmf fight together)

Lanceren mephisto (suzaku kmf, the newest creation made by lloyd and rakshata, but a outlaw model considered the new laws about weapons limit written by nunnally and UNF, in fact for a promise, after to fix the last problem, the kmf must be destroyed)

Costantine (pollux rui britannia kmf), Costantine is the name of knight of round taked the place of arthur like king of camelot.
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why skip the name Bedivere
he's one of the most famus knights of the round table
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Old 2009-07-09, 14:45   Link #2299
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I know, Japan writers made the error to consider the 12 knights, but the "historical" research find proofs about a number of knight of 25 to 150...

I just taked some random name by the list on wikipedia.

Instead "lanceren" is just a mixed name about Lancelot + Guren, a model designed on purpose to fight some impressive "monster" after the Merlin event.

Like Merlin was born on purpose to destroy the Guren seiten and the Shinkirou.
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Old 2009-07-09, 14:48   Link #2300
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you should rename one of them
its like not naming a KMF the lancelot in favor of naming it the Gaheris
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