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Old 2008-09-27, 23:21   Link #1961
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I see... but Can they stand their ground Agenst............ The Answerer? Wuahahahahaha!!!!

anyways haha, Maybe if Suzaku and Kallen teamed up, just maybe they could take Dingo, Leo and Nohman (in 2v1 fights)

but really, Compairing them to each other is kinda silly.
Well Nohman fights single (well you fight him lol)

Leo and Dingo are much more likely to team up than Suzaku and Kallen.

Well even if it's 2 vs. 1, Dingo, Nohman and Leo can win alone (but barely)
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Old 2008-09-28, 02:01   Link #1962
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I see... but Can they stand their ground Agenst............ The Answerer? Wuahahahahaha!!!!

anyways haha, Maybe if Suzaku and Kallen teamed up, just maybe they could take Dingo, Leo and Nohman (in 2v1 fights)

but really, Compairing them to each other is kinda silly.
You was the one who started it.
But it's indeed stupid. Why not to compare Armorred Core vs Gurren Lagann?
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Old 2008-09-28, 05:50   Link #1963
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Sutherland Sieg = (essentially) Gundam GP03 Dendrobium

Thats the most random thing I've ever seen.
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Old 2008-09-28, 12:30   Link #1964
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Wait, did Kallen actually say Gurren SEITEN is of higher spec than Lancelot Albion in episode 25?
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Old 2008-09-28, 13:36   Link #1965
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Did I not say Seig had a regular Sutherland inside way back when it first showed up?

Only thing was that I was expecting it to have a float pack and weapons inside not be totally unequipped.
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Old 2008-09-28, 14:09   Link #1966
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Only thing was that I was expecting it to have a float pack and weapons inside not be totally unequipped.
Unequipped? Jeremiah Gottwald is inside it. I would hardly call that unequipped.
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Old 2008-09-28, 14:54   Link #1967
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Actually, if my eyes didn't deceive me, its legs/feet does seem to have some kinda of float system attached.
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Old 2008-09-28, 17:12   Link #1968
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Actually, if my eyes didn't deceive me, its legs/feet does seem to have some kinda of float system attached.
On it's legs. You see a fin on it that's glowing green.

As for the Guren and Albion, it seems that while they use a lot more energy their weapon systems have their own energy/ammo usage.

Albion's shield system derives from its own power source and so does Guren's claw.
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Old 2008-09-28, 23:25   Link #1969
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Yea I think that Karen does say that the Guren SEITEN have betetr specs than the Lancelot Albion @_@. If so, Suzaku is superhuman...he can take on the spec difference through sheer pwnage (and the "live" geass).
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Old 2008-09-28, 23:30   Link #1970
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Dingo, Leo and Nohman will own Kallen and Suzaku straight down (Dingo is too smart to use vector cannon on a fast moving target, hell I won't either XD) (the only person who can beat those 3 are Radam and his Hathor and if they are not on Aumaan). (well Leo can even own Amuro and Kira in their SF and Nu-gundams)

As for ACs, I am not sure. MTs will lose unless against REALLY bad grunts.

ACs have MUCH better armour whereas Knightmare frames are more quick. I bet a punch from an AC can destroy the Shinkirou.

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Orbital Frames > all mechs
Orbital frames are cool, powerful mostly, but do take back 'Orbital Frames > all mechs'.

There are a whole lot of mechs out there, more powerful than anything else and are of true god status.

Knightmare Frames are average Real Robots, though the 9th gen are a little close to Super Robots, they are still weak compared to true super robots.

I always compared KMFs to LFOs, Eureka 7 mechs. Their frames are quite similar. Though LFOs don't stand a chance against anything if there's no Trapar in the air.
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Old 2008-09-29, 04:15   Link #1971
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Wait, did Kallen actually say Gurren SEITEN is of higher spec than Lancelot Albion in episode 25?
Yep Kallen said the Guren SEITEN was the more powerful one. I supose they had to give her a better machine to make up for her lack of ability increasing live geass.
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Old 2008-09-29, 21:36   Link #1972
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Orbital frames are cool, powerful mostly, but do take back 'Orbital Frames > all mechs'.

There are a whole lot of mechs out there, more powerful than anything else and are of true god status.

Knightmare Frames are average Real Robots, though the 9th gen are a little close to Super Robots, they are still weak compared to true super robots.

I always compared KMFs to LFOs, Eureka 7 mechs. Their frames are quite similar. Though LFOs don't stand a chance against anything if there's no Trapar in the air.
Agreed, maybe STRAINS are better.

Kallen may have the better machine but Suzaku still has more skill.
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Old 2008-09-29, 23:57   Link #1973
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Yep Kallen said the Guren SEITEN was the more powerful one. I supose they had to give her a better machine to make up for her lack of ability increasing live geass.
But how dos she know her machine's better?
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Old 2008-09-29, 23:59   Link #1974
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But how dos she know her machine's better?
Well her machine is the only one that Lakshata, Cecile, and Lloyd had a hand in tuning. When their techs combine, something really powerful is created.

I think it was also said that if the pilot could use it at 60%, it was unbeatable or something like that.
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Orbital frames are cool, powerful mostly, but do take back 'Orbital Frames > all mechs'.

There are a whole lot of mechs out there, more powerful than anything else and are of true god status.

Knightmare Frames are average Real Robots, though the 9th gen are a little close to Super Robots, they are still weak compared to true super robots.

I always compared KMFs to LFOs, Eureka 7 mechs. Their frames are quite similar. Though LFOs don't stand a chance against anything if there's no Trapar in the air.
oh yea...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6SU1...eature=related > All mechs
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Old 2008-09-30, 23:52   Link #1976
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Well if a machine had the best of : Rakshata's Radiation tech, Cecile's Energy Wing tech, and Lloyd's MVS / Beefed-up Core Luminous: and one had only 2 of the 3...it's kind of obvious which one is superior. I was SO expecting Suzaku to win because of his superior skill and live geass but after pwning : Tohdoh, Xingke, Gino, Tamaki (joke), and countless others...I guess they had to make him lose...as well as for the Zero Requiem plan. =( i wanted him to knock some sense into Karen but the ending was good enough without it I guess.
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Old 2008-10-01, 01:40   Link #1977
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Well if a machine had the best of : Rakshata's Radiation tech, Cecile's Energy Wing tech, and Lloyd's MVS / Beefed-up Core Luminous: and one had only 2 of the 3...it's kind of obvious which one is superior. I was SO expecting Suzaku to win because of his superior skill and live geass but after pwning : Tohdoh, Xingke, Gino, Tamaki (joke), and countless others...I guess they had to make him lose...as well as for the Zero Requiem plan. =( i wanted him to knock some sense into Karen but the ending was good enough without it I guess.
he didnt really lose, it was some draw that Kallen got the short end of the stick, Suzaku was still alive and conscious while Kallen passed out and her Guren got destroyed first. just taking the hit to the cockpit on purpose to fake his death so the Zero Plan to continue. like the joker said, it was all part of the plan, lol, to fake his death.
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Old 2008-10-01, 01:43   Link #1978
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he didnt really lose, well he lost on purpose by just taking the hit to the cockpit so the Zero Plan to continue. the live geass doesnt increase skills. like the joker said, it was part of the plan, lol, to fake his death.
He was trying to win. He says as much when his live Geass won't let him land a decisive blow. Kallen landed that last hit fair and square.
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Old 2008-10-01, 01:49   Link #1979
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He was trying to win. He says as much when his live Geass won't let him land a decisive blow. Kallen landed that last hit fair and square.
Faking death at the hands at Kallen was rvealed to be part of Zero Requiem. Suzaku let her blow him up. His only goal all along was to not let Kallen interfere, not kill her.
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Old 2008-10-01, 01:50   Link #1980
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Faking death at the hands at Kallen was rvealed to be part of Zero Requiem. Suzaku let her blow him up. His only goal all along was to not let Kallen interfere, not kill her.
Becoming Zero was part of Zero Requiem. Letting Kallen "kill" him as she did was not. He makes that abundantly clear during their battle. If he had wanted to lose he wouldn't have used his live Geass in the first place. The way in which he lost simply isn't something they could arrange.
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