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Old 2011-11-30, 05:06   Link #1
Shai-Lang
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Perception on Japanese Otaku.

Alright, first off I just want to say that I hope I don't come off as elitist or snobbish in this thread. That's not my intention, I just really want to get this off my chest since its what I believe.

You may think its elitist, snobbish and purist but it's what I believe and ultimately you can't change that.

With that said.

This topic is about how I perceive the Japanese Otaku and the negative connontation that goes along with that title. Some people might say I have a very unique view... but whatever, here it goes.

It is my belief that the stereotypical Japanese Otaku, while being known as the "hardest of hardcore anime/manga/video game fans" are really not. In fact, I believe them to be quite fake, and not real anime fans. For I've noticed that they only like the eroge and hentai aspects of anime, so really Otaku are just porn fans that are hiding under the cleaner term "anime fan."

True anime fans don't just watch anime for the cute girls and the porn, but for the deep storylines and characters. For me I watch anime/read manga and play JRPGs to escape into a fantasy realm and get lost in a fairytale story. Akin to getting sucked into a good book. I love anime, manga and JRPGS because I feel they have the capacity to tell grand, epic stories. Much more creative stories as well compared to the Western entertainment mediums, or even novels.

However these Japanese otaku just give us true anime fans a bad name by painting us all as porn fans, when really a lot of us couldn't care less about the porn and hate porn in general.

In this respect, I agree with Hayao Miyazaki's supposedly snobbish attitude towards the Japanese otaku community. As he is right and is just telling it like it is. They're not fans of anime, like the creative and enchanting worlds that he creates in his anime, they're just fans of porn.

In fact I could also see why the mainstream Japanese perception of Otaku is so negative. Because the Japanese public probably sees these people as just plain porn fans, nothing less nothing more, and that's why they get such a bad rep from people.

So yeah.... I know its a weird view but I feel Otakus aren't anime fans at all, more like they're just fake anime fans, while the true anime fans don't get noticed a lot in Japan like here in America sadly. (Note: I am specifically reffering only to the Japanese Otaku, as "Otaku" here in America takes on quite a different meaning and is usually meant to describe a real anime fan.)
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Old 2011-11-30, 05:25   Link #2
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...and the point of this thread is?

There are so many fallacies here, based on completely unsupported assertions, that there is little worth discussing. All the same, you are welcome to your opinions.

And no, they are hardly unique. Just your garden-variety flame bait.
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Old 2011-11-30, 05:32   Link #3
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...and the point of this thread is?

There are so many fallacies here, based on completely unsupported assertions, that there is little worth discussing. All the same, you are welcome to your opinions.

And no, they are hardly unique. Just your garden-variety flame bait.
I knew people wouldn't take to kindly to this -.-

The point of this thread is I want to know if anyone else shares my view on how anime should be more of an "artsy" thing, and that the Japanese Otaku are not true fans of this artform.
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Old 2011-11-30, 05:34   Link #4
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Cute girls are not bad, quite the contrary, they are in fact, GLORIOUS!!


Case closed.
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Old 2011-11-30, 06:14   Link #5
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So, you mean to say... the association to the term "otaku" is far worse than what I previously thought? I thought they're just the hardcore anime/manga people -- who flat out can't talk about anything BUT anime/manga. Add on the annoying compulsive personality of the obsessed person.
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Old 2011-11-30, 06:21   Link #6
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Cute girls are not bad, quite the contrary, they are in fact, GLORIOUS!!


Case closed.
/end of the thread.

To begin with, everything is in the title, it's only a "perception" and such it is biased by common sense, culture, religion and every little shit that you think they have no incidence whatsoever but they do have.

You can't judge people only on your perception.
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Old 2011-11-30, 06:30   Link #7
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I'm not Japanese but there are times that I angry with you. Just watch some of the avatar, sigs and photos that some post in some threads.

"Pictures don't lie."

Honestly, I'm a fan of Eroge and H anime (I'm not Japanese) but there are times that the plots often sucks already. Mostly doesn't even have plots. I agree when "crazy pete" said at YT that "All hentai are stupid" and that 10% of the viewers watches just for the plot while the remaining are for plain S*X.

In watching plain animes, I watch mostly ecchi and romance.

Note, I watch ecchi for the teasers and somewhat the new trends in ecchi where nudity is already at the borderline to H turns me off. About romance, I'm into drama like Clannad and Itazura na Kiss (yes, it has the comedy). I don't like tsundere! they're just making things complicated.

Back to the topic. The picture speaks for itself. Don't afraid. I salute you dude.
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Old 2011-11-30, 06:33   Link #8
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The point of this thread is I want to know if anyone else shares my view on how anime should be more of an "artsy" thing, and that the Japanese Otaku are not true fans of this artform.
The point of this thread is pretty stupid then. You don't understand what otaku means or any understanding of Japanese culture in general. Instead of posting here with drivel about your personal opinions, you should spend that time reading about the history of the industry and all of the things about it. While you're at it, learn a bit more about the overall culture of the country. You might learn the value of understanding that the world is more complicated than you think you know.

This topics been done, and better, before.

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