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Old 2007-02-12, 17:24   Link #181
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Blurring effect is used to show a character's speed but I don't think the relative speed of the opponent matters. For example, if Lee uses Omote Renge, it doesn't matter if his opponent is Gaara or Itachi, he's going to be drawn with the blur effect simply to show the move emphasizes speed.

In this battle with Kakuzu, it doesn't seem like Naruto was using any abnormal speed. Not only are there no visual clues, but there are no comments from the other characters regarding Naruto's speed whereas everyone commented on how fast Lee and Sasuke were moving. It seems like Naruto's whole strategy was to make up for his lack of speed. There would be no need to send out multiple KB to distract Kakuzu if Naruto was so quick that Kakuzu couldn't track his movements



Oh, so that's the reason he told him not to use that justu.
In that case the emphasis is on his relative speed when he is powered up (gates opened) compared to his normal speed. Also that effect is cool however the fastest ninja are not portrayed with it, they simply appear at a place out of nowhere, for example Sasuke simply appeared in front of Naruto, or the jounins in the chuunin exam suddenly appearing between the genins (between Hinata and Neji, Gaara and Lee). Even if Naruto had 3 clones, or even more clones he would not be able to reach Kakuzu and strike him if he had only normal speed, just look at Kakashi, he was on the defense all the time despite his eye. Even if Kakuzu is not that fast as Itachi, but his tentacles are very fast and they can attack on multiple opponents at the same time.
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Old 2007-02-12, 19:03   Link #182
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A late reply, but better late than never...
I was wondering…I was almost leaving you know?

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Yeah, don’t mention that..just having to read a long post, analyze it, creating the opinon, typyng the reply for it and then do the spell check its just super tiring…but I love it, I wont let my cloone do that for me…

The reason why I originally replied was not to Show that Naruto win was not a good one and other stuff, rather, that I failed to see the comparison between that and Itachi and Sasuke, mainly because, the cases on Itachi and Sasuke there were no Tricks used in the Battlefield.

To be honest when you first mentioned that I wasn’t even thinking about Jiriaya been tricked with an Echi tactic, as I said, this was Jiriaya dumbness, but it was a Dumbness that is part of his character.

In the case of Kakuuzu it was A trick used while fighting and it not part of Kakuuzu type of character falling to such tricks (why, Because I really don’t imagine people as Kakashi, Oro, or Yondaime falling into this type of tings). there will be people that say, Kishi didn’t made Kakuzuu less experienced to the benefit of Narutos Tactic, while there will others that said it did happened, what I failed to see, and even do know, is comparing that with the case of Itachi and Sasuke.
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Old 2007-02-12, 21:17   Link #183
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Rurik i agree about Jiraiya...

I also begin to wonder about his speed...
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Old 2007-02-13, 10:28   Link #184
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i think jaraiya may be capable of the hiraishin no jutsu as well. i mean he knows yondaimes other moves, it would make sense right?
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Old 2007-02-13, 10:58   Link #185
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if that is indeed true dont u think he would have used it while fighting Orochimaru to help cope with his handycap of being drugged to finish him off. Plus we dont even know of its Wind or a Lightening Based Jutsu, I would say Lightening based off its name so if that was the case it could be possible for Sasuke to stumble apon it but he is more likely pure speed
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Old 2007-02-13, 11:21   Link #186
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Man I am sick and tired of reading about how Kakuzu was dumb(dumbified) and how because of his experience he should never have fallen for such an obvious trick.
He was dumbed down for Naruto. It's called "plot induced stupidity" and it happens all the time in shonen. As soon as the main character showed up, Kakuzu's IQ went down about 50 points.

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Old 2007-02-13, 12:29   Link #187
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Old 2007-02-13, 12:32   Link #188
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That last bit sounds cool, actually looking forward to this storyline coming to an end...
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Old 2007-02-13, 12:34   Link #189
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He was dumbed down for Naruto. It's called "plot induced stupidity" and it happens all the time in shonen. As soon as the main character showed up, Kakuzu's IQ went down about 50 points.

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Wonder if Shiki wants to take care of the BOTH the mother and the baby

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Old 2007-02-13, 13:59   Link #190
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Old 2007-02-13, 14:01   Link #191
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Old 2007-02-13, 14:09   Link #192
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Wonder if Shiki wants to take care of the BOTH the mother and the baby
I never thought of that.

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Old 2007-02-13, 14:27   Link #193
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Old 2007-02-13, 14:49   Link #194
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lol ... if this is the real stuff I don't know what to think actually ^^'
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Old 2007-02-13, 17:01   Link #195
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wow that seems kinda weird and interesting at the same time
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Old 2007-02-13, 18:04   Link #196
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lol ... if this is the real stuff I don't know what to think actually ^^'
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Old 2007-02-13, 19:02   Link #197
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One more thing...

For those who had the courage (like me to watch the last few filler episodes) that student of gaara (that girl) wasnt she the same shinobi who praised Gaara that he was so great and all. When dozens of shinobi where there when Gaara got revived. Isnt she the same girl? Or am i mistaken?
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Old 2007-02-13, 19:03   Link #198
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Old 2007-02-13, 19:21   Link #199
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yeah someone said something about naruto not being able to learn the hiraishin because of it probably being a lightning technique - i doubt that. Yondaime also made a certain technique called the rasengan which he was trying to do elemental manipulation to. Now think about it, would it seem right to fuse lightning or any other element besides wind with it? Theres already a raikiri so there is no need for lightning manipulation (plus the rasengan just doesnt look like a lightning ninjutsu... u know?). I'm pretty sure Yondaime was a wind element user (becuz u know that later on they will reveal that he is naruto's father, they look similar too, even kakashi draws comparisons between them), therefore making the yellow flash technique a wind or no element jutsu.

Oh and he rly rly rly needs to learn that technique.. badly.

And sasuke is turning into someone with no morals
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Old 2007-02-13, 20:45   Link #200
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