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Old 2008-10-11, 13:28   Link #1061
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I think think it's about to end soon

Anyway I think the reason why stuff why western material is allowed to be a message violent is because it's either objective or teaching good morals. As violent as CSI is, in the end the villain is caught. Stuff like The Punisher, Spawn, or Sin city are just ridiculously violent but it the end, the villain gets what coming.

Now usually in the news any adult in a romantic relationship with a child is viewed a immoral, a villain. Now here you have a story were the "villain" isn't getting justice so people think that the anime is supporting a adult-child. Now I know rin and Aoki don't have a romantic relation but the story doesn't do much to confirm that early in the story
No. It's just that much of America has simply determined that sex/nudity is "bad". There is a strong, Old Testament, puritanical streak running through the American mind-set that colors much of what is acceptable and what is wrong, and the Old Testament is a very violent book. The best example of this I can think of happened when I ran a video rental outlet in Iowa. A lady came in and explained that her 13 year-old son was having some of his friends over, and they wanted to see "The Whole Nine Yards"*. She wanted to know about it before she rented it for them. I explained that it was a comedy with a plot centered around a hit-man, so there was some violence--people getting shot etc, and that at one point they alter the dental work on two of the bodies then burn them in a car to hide their trail. I did point out that it was mostly off screen and non-explicit, no exploding heads, etc. She seemed alright with all this and put the movie on the counter. Then I remembered to add "Oh yeah, and there is something like 30 seconds of Amanda Peet topless, as she distracts a few compeating hit-men". The lady'e response was along the lines of "Oh", pause, pick up the tape, "I see, well I'll find something else then."

Hit-men are fine, Murder and mutilation OK, 30 seconds of naked boobies, we need to save the kids. There's no moral argument made to justify the violence; it's just alright, but even non-sexual nudity is evil.

* Personally, I love this movie; it's one of Bruce Willis' best. I was not in any way trying to discourage her from renting, but as she asked, I was just being honest with the content.
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Old 2008-10-11, 14:04   Link #1062
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it must have been a really weird experience o_0
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Old 2008-10-13, 15:12   Link #1063
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I was on amazon.jp the other day buying the latest book of KnJ and happened across a "character fan book" or something. I bought it, its coming in the mail already. Its by miss watashiya, its official, but why had I never heard of it? Did it come with the DVDs or something?

This is a great time for me to ask. What extra stuff is there for KnJ besides doujinshi and eroge? Like what official stuff is there besides the immediate manga and the DVDs?



Also found this, very very close to buying it....
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Old 2008-10-13, 18:18   Link #1064
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I was on amazon.jp the other day buying the latest book of KnJ and happened across a "character fan book" or something. I bought it, its coming in the mail already. Its by miss watashiya, its official, but why had I never heard of it? Did it come with the DVDs or something?

This is a great time for me to ask. What extra stuff is there for KnJ besides doujinshi and eroge? Like what official stuff is there besides the immediate manga and the DVDs?



Also found this, very very close to buying it....

What is that bottom link? It looks like the cover to one of the volumes to KNJ but with a different girl. Is it loli?
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Old 2008-10-13, 20:19   Link #1065
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What is that bottom link? It looks like the cover to one of the volumes to KNJ but with a different girl. Is it loli?
I'm not really sure what it is. Its most likely loli. But its an exact copy of the 1st book's cover, except the girl is different and the poster is different. Its related, I'm not sure how. It wasn't written by watashiya, so I decided not to get it. But I read a doujin some people speculate watashiya wrote... So you never know...
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Old 2008-10-13, 20:47   Link #1066
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I'm not really sure what it is. Its most likely loli. But its an exact copy of the 1st book's cover, except the girl is different and the poster is different. Its related, I'm not sure how. It wasn't written by watashiya, so I decided not to get it. But I read a doujin some people speculate watashiya wrote... So you never know...
Well it looks interesting atleast. Let us know if you get it, and if you would recommend it.
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Old 2008-10-24, 01:08   Link #1067
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So... about that chapter 42... (The real 42, not the misnumbered 41 release.) "You can't just force it to bloom" indeed. Need I say more?

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Take a wild guess which page /a/ has been starting threads over.
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Old 2008-10-24, 13:56   Link #1068
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... wow. I am not 100% sure I understood everything in that chapter.
Spoiler for Story elements:


byouin-sensei... man she should just grab aoki's dick and get it over with...


Also the chapter 35.5... man aki was a real woman... I'd put her on my team any day! Damn... talking about pleasing her man.

Chapter 42 gets 5 stars from me....

I'm really expecting some great conversation from this chapter which pushes the edgy KnJ to the edge again... It seems Watashiya still has some story left to tell us!
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Old 2008-10-24, 17:41   Link #1069
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plumtree reference sucked a bit too hard, rin being a plumtree you shouldnt push blooming, since itīll only evolve naturally when left to do it on itīs own - referance to rin was waaaaay to obvious imo:S

w00t w00t, some pretty darn developments on the shirai-aoki part, byouin sensei takin another step forward and rin eventually umm, you get the idea xd
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Old 2008-10-24, 20:46   Link #1070
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Old 2008-10-25, 01:46   Link #1071
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All I have to say is... O M G!

Is it me or... does it seem like theres gonna be something more physical going to happen between Rin and Aoki in the future?

And... the fact that Reiji kissed her hand when she was sleeping... you think he... you know? smelled it?
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Old 2008-10-25, 02:25   Link #1072
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Interesting contrast between Aki, who wanted Reiji to grow strong and happy, even if it meant losing him, and Reiji, who wants Rin to stay with him at all cost.
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Old 2008-10-25, 09:07   Link #1073
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All I have to say is... O M G!

Is it me or... does it seem like theres gonna be something more physical going to happen between Rin and Aoki in the future?

And... the fact that Reiji kissed her hand when she was sleeping... you think he... you know? smelled it?
wont be happening, the contrast between what he said "sheīs still an innocent angel afterall" would be kinda contrary to what he could have smelled there
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Old 2008-10-25, 09:40   Link #1074
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All I have to say is... O M G!

Is it me or... does it seem like theres gonna be something more physical going to happen between Rin and Aoki in the future?
I think there will. Even if its just rin pushing herself on aoki. I think the new things she will learn will convince her she is a woman and is ready to give herself to aoki.

But the real question is what will aoki be in rin's life. No way he'll be her teacher again... Maybe he will open a club and she'll join. Maybe they will meet after school. Or maybe he quits and they get involved outside of school. I don't know, but I just can't believe that aoki will be her teacher again, but he might just to make things simpler.

@sumowow

lol, I know what you mean! Personally the kiss scene was the best part of that for me, but the fight scene was too funny. I will die laughing in the anime version.

But seriously as f-ing hot as byouin-sensei is... what is aoki's problem? Even if he can't sense the mood well, how can he not find his self staring into the shirt, or wonding why the kids call her pai pai, or not noticing her HUGE nipples when they were poking out so much of her bra-less shirt... aoki are you gay? I can understand you not approaching her, but not noticing her body in real life, when I notice it in a manga is unforgivable! Aoki... do flat chests turn you on? I'm beginning to lose faith in you... reiji took care of business with aki, its your turn aoki, knock the cobwebs out of kyoko-chan's... you know where... I command you!

@Anh_Minh

I think it shows the maturity difference between the two. But I think reiji is starting to see the picture. Starting to understand that making her his woman is not the only way to protect rin. It has been shown reiji can attract women, so I don't think his is like that with rin because he can't get another woman. I think its because he does not understand his role as a father figure. But I think he also will be learning that as well. Although I may be wrong, lol.
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Old 2008-10-25, 10:40   Link #1075
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But I think reiji is starting to see the picture. Starting to understand that making her his woman is not the only way to protect rin. It has been shown reiji can attract women, so I don't think his is like that with rin because he can't get another woman. I think its because he does not understand his role as a father figure.
Which is why I think the plum tree reference was not the hamhanded overly obvious reference to Rin, but rather a very sly reference to Reiji/ Note that we see the bloom not while Rin is in the middle of her explorations, but rather when Reiji has his moment of realization (assuming he doesn't have sinus problems). Add that with the bonus chapter, and I could very easily see that the author is headed toward a more positive ending than I would have thought before - of Reiji becoming a real father. Of Aoki having a real relationship (whether with Boin Boin or her stern counterpart), and getting some understanding of what women are really all about, and of Rin being able to piece together all the confusing things she didn't quite understand before.

But then, I may just be an optimist.
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Old 2008-10-25, 16:54   Link #1076
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I think there will. Even if its just rin pushing herself on aoki. I think the new things she will learn will convince her she is a woman and is ready to give herself to aoki.

But the real question is what will aoki be in rin's life. No way he'll be her teacher again... Maybe he will open a club and she'll join. Maybe they will meet after school. Or maybe he quits and they get involved outside of school. I don't know, but I just can't believe that aoki will be her teacher again, but he might just to make things simpler.

@sumowow

lol, I know what you mean! Personally the kiss scene was the best part of that for me, but the fight scene was too funny. I will die laughing in the anime version.

But seriously as f-ing hot as byouin-sensei is... what is aoki's problem? Even if he can't sense the mood well, how can he not find his self staring into the shirt, or wonding why the kids call her pai pai, or not noticing her HUGE nipples when they were poking out so much of her bra-less shirt... aoki are you gay? I can understand you not approaching her, but not noticing her body in real life, when I notice it in a manga is unforgivable! Aoki... do flat chests turn you on? I'm beginning to lose faith in you... reiji took care of business with aki, its your turn aoki, knock the cobwebs out of kyoko-chan's... you know where... I command you!

@Anh_Minh

I think it shows the maturity difference between the two. But I think reiji is starting to see the picture. Starting to understand that making her his woman is not the only way to protect rin. It has been shown reiji can attract women, so I don't think his is like that with rin because he can't get another woman. I think its because he does not understand his role as a father figure. But I think he also will be learning that as well. Although I may be wrong, lol.
not gay, just lolicon
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Old 2008-10-25, 19:47   Link #1077
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Which is why I think the plum tree reference was not the hamhanded overly obvious reference to Rin, but rather a very sly reference to Reiji/ Note that we see the bloom not while Rin is in the middle of her explorations, but rather when Reiji has his moment of realization (assuming he doesn't have sinus problems). Add that with the bonus chapter, and I could very easily see that the author is headed toward a more positive ending than I would have thought before - of Reiji becoming a real father. Of Aoki having a real relationship (whether with Boin Boin or her stern counterpart), and getting some understanding of what women are really all about, and of Rin being able to piece together all the confusing things she didn't quite understand before.

But then, I may just be an optimist.
Ah sokka! I totally missed that! I serious thought the plum tree was about rin, but that makes a lot of sense! Man I need to pay more attention.

To be honest I can not imagine not following watashiya on her next stories... (is the next one dame yome nikki?), her story telling is too good. Man this story, I never would of thought it would be this good when I first started reading. I seriously thought this chapter was going to be the last, or at least wrapping it up... I love you watashiya, keep this awesome story going!

Totally unrelated, has anyone seen a picture of watashiya-sensei? I really want to see her...

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Nevermind I found a pic, damn she is hot...
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Old 2008-10-26, 15:14   Link #1078
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ummm, ... hot? i know everybody got their own preferences but LOL
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Old 2008-10-27, 16:36   Link #1079
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if Kodomo No Jikan didn't knock some socks off before, i'm sure they're off now ... aren't anywhere near everyday to see a story which digs into a preteen girl exploring herself 'onscreen' (only thing i remember thats remotely near is either Lolita or prehaps 'Clan of the Cave Bear')

but on the other hand ... i don't see it unlikely that a girl halfway to 11 (she was 9 when the story started as far as i remember) would discover herself, partially due to finding porn by curiosity/mistake and having a a rep for having a rather high ammount of sexual innuendo covered ... now i just wait for Kuro to sumple into a discarded Yuri Magazine
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Old 2008-10-28, 15:42   Link #1080
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Um, since that cover has caused quite a debate here, I thought it might be a good idea to show that that is not the official cover, it is likely used somewhere else...

Official cover, courtesy of www.amazon.co.jp:
http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/i...465392&s=books

Not quite as racy...

Now that's acceptable!

The racy version must be the special-edition and it's tailor-made for otakus...
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