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View Poll Results: What do you use for your loseless pass?
Lagarith 11 20.00%
Huffyuv 23 41.82%
MSU 1 1.82%
I use the option in MeGui... 1 1.82%
Other 4 7.27%
Loseless pass? I don't make one 5 9.09%
I don't encode... Just passing by... 10 18.18%
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Old 2007-06-11, 11:49   Link #1
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What do you use for your loseless pass?

For curiousitys sake - what do you people use?
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Old 2007-06-11, 11:53   Link #2
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Lagarith of course (for YV12).
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Old 2007-06-11, 11:55   Link #3
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I use the option in MeGui...

May I ask as to what that represents??? I only know of x264, XviD, LMP4 and Snow in MeGUI (and only two of those can do lossless AFAIK, and for their use I would say rather pointless to use them for a lossless pass). >_>

/me voted for Huffy
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Old 2007-06-11, 12:41   Link #4
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I use the option in MeGui...

May I ask as to what that represents??? I only know of x264, XviD, LMP4 and Snow in MeGUI (and only two of those can do lossless AFAIK, and for their use I would say rather pointless to use them for a lossless pass). >_>

/me voted for Huffy
It represents "Add Pre-Rendering" box-thingy-optiony , meow .

's basically huffyuv from what I know - but from what I also know, last time I checked the file size it produced was much smaller then that of huffyuv I once tried - so I never used that option since I never trusted it .

But here's from da wiki:

"Pre-rendering job
Checking this box before you click 'enqueue' will create an extra job that runs before the encoding. This job will encode the input script to a (lossless) HuffYUV file, and then use that file for input for your encoding. The advantage of this is that your avisynth script will only have to run once, meaning a 2+ pass encode will run faster.

Caveats:

Lossless files can be large. A 2hr DVD movie will come in around 30gb, a 2hr 720p file closer to 60gb.
The huffyuv file is output to the same location as the input script, not to the same location as the final file.
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Old 2007-06-11, 17:44   Link #5
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Voted HuffYUV.
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Old 2007-06-11, 18:27   Link #6
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Lagarith here; also have Huffyuv at the ready in case something catastrophic occurs.
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Old 2007-06-11, 19:08   Link #7
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Lol, somethin' don' add up, if you use laga, ffd-d00d uses laga, and *I* use laga, it should have 3 votes... IT'S A CONSPIRACY BY THE HUFFYUV PEOPLE! I AM SURE OF IT!

>.>
<.<

Seriously though, I though there'd be more votes(in general) meow...
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Old 2007-06-11, 19:50   Link #8
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Voted Huffy.

It does the same job as Lagarith in a much more reasonable timeframe.
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Old 2007-06-11, 20:08   Link #9
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h264 qp0
Since fft3dgpu is slower anyway.
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Old 2007-06-11, 21:16   Link #10
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Lol, somethin' don' add up, if you use laga, ffd-d00d uses laga, and *I* use laga, it should have 3 votes... IT'S A CONSPIRACY BY THE HUFFYUV PEOPLE! I AM SURE OF IT!

>.>
<.<

Seriously though, I though there'd be more votes(in general) meow...
I tend not to vote in polls, so there's your answer. I doubt most of us are really concerned over who uses what so that probably contributes to the lack of turnout.
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Old 2007-06-11, 21:21   Link #11
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Awww, bascally you're saying encoders are no fun? .

Meh... Can't they humor me? .

Ah well...
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Old 2007-06-11, 21:50   Link #12
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Awww, bascally you're saying encoders are no fun? .

Meh... Can't they humor me? .

Ah well...
(Don't mind xat... He's one of those "quiet encoders".)

Encoders are buckets of fun, especially when there is a n00b to pick on.
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Old 2007-06-12, 00:40   Link #13
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Definitely FFDShow's HuffYUV. As long as the compression is barely reasonable, I go purely for speed.
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Old 2007-06-12, 01:40   Link #14
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megui uses huffyuv
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Old 2007-06-12, 04:18   Link #15
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I still Use VBLE, it's really fast to work with in after effects.
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Old 2007-06-12, 07:08   Link #16
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Da huffman!
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Old 2007-06-12, 11:51   Link #17
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Huff of course... Purely for speed. With terabyte hard drives I can care less about the size.
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Old 2007-06-12, 12:37   Link #18
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Huff of course... Purely for speed. With terabyte hard drives I can care less about the size.
Well, it's not like you need that much space either way since 25min @ 704x400 takes about 4-5GB and 720p 10-11GB. And then it's not like you archive the lossless passes...or do you?
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Old 2007-06-12, 15:44   Link #19
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Just a minor note, you might want to differentiate the original Huffyuv (which is not YV12 capable) from the one in FFMPEG by referring to it as FF-Huffyuv...or sometimes just abbreviated FFVH (the fourcc used). I usually call it FFVH anyways :P, which is what I voted for...meow .
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Old 2007-06-12, 15:46   Link #20
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Nah, I just grouped the enemy into one name , besides, I don't think many here use the non-yv12 version... who needs an extra colorspace conversion? (or whatever that's called)
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