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Old 2013-02-03, 15:20   Link #2761
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But she still uses fast moves with magic which do fall in to the physical enhancement. Besides what is using your energy for a direct hit but a physical enhancement of the hit itself?
It's an energy sword versus a physical blade. Please tell me I don't have to explain how the two are different? And for her fast moves I will note that Fate had to design a completely separate spell for it, not to mention her desparation armor form that requires her to shunt every single bit of her magic that isn't used for offense to speed.

Think about that for a moment. She needs to go that far to completely outrun a Belkan user. One who doesn't even specialize in speed to begin with. One who was holding back. Does that not tell you who has the advantage in physical enhancement here?
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:22   Link #2762
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No really, we were comparing an acient knight with a 9 years old girl.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:28   Link #2763
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Don't remind me, by most logic the girls wouldn't have been able to win at all.

But hey, I see your strawman and I choose to ignore it. Fate could not surpass Signum's physical enhancement magic without going to the extreme, showing which style has the upper hand here.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:31   Link #2764
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No really. Even ignoring the fact one figther was more skilled than the other means one style is inferior to the other. Both really focus on making their moves better.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:35   Link #2765
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Because one fighter is more skilled than the other does not mean that the other's style is inferior.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:38   Link #2766
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Yes that was what I say.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:38   Link #2767
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See, there you go again, claiming that I'm saying one entire style is inferior to the other. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that the fight between Fate and Signum shows that Belka is better at physical enhancement. A fact supported by every single piece of canon discussing the styles.

Mid's better at blasting things from range and huge beam'o'wars, Belka's better at smashing things up close and making you better at doing so. It's that simple. The styles overlap on occasion, but when push comes to shove, both are better at what they do best.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:42   Link #2768
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And I insist not in a lavel when that really matters to tell them apart. Is my way to see them as similar in nature and just diferent aplications by the users.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:44   Link #2769
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And yet there is only one character, one lone character, that supports your claim. Surely you'd have more than that if it was so obvious as you claim?
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:50   Link #2770
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Is just on screen and how I see it. In the end beyond the lights and the attacks Belka and Mid seems really much the same and affect the same. They are both base in using magic to blow things up. At its core magic is being use as a weapon and seems to focus on the destructive part of it. Spells like healing, illusions and others playing lower roles and just being perform by a few characters. To me magic styles need to be more than just a close range attack and a long range one and between Belka and Mid there is no much and even that difference can be easily avoid by some characters proving is possible to go beyond the limit and make them not that different.
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Old 2013-02-03, 15:54   Link #2771
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Remind me, how many Belkan mages have we seen casting Breaker attacks?
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:00   Link #2772
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At least two
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:06   Link #2773
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Care to share names with the claim?
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:08   Link #2774
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Sorry you ask just numbers. I belive is Hayate and Subaru.
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:10   Link #2775
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Hayate uses mid for breaker spells, and you're going to have to refresh my memory when Subaru ever cast a Breaker spell.
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:11   Link #2776
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Subaru never did, no.
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:14   Link #2777
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Subaru does use Oscillating Breaker and Hayate's Ragnarök is Ancient Belka but she still use the word Breaker when she use it agaisnt the defense program.
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:16   Link #2778
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Oscillating Breaker can also be translated into a different name, like Vibration Shatter. It is NOT a Breaker-type magic or attack. In this case, the "Breaker" in its name is very much literal, unlike Starlight Breaker's.
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:17   Link #2779
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Nope, Oscillating Breaker is Subaru's IS and Hayate's Ragnarök Breaker is mid.
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Old 2013-02-03, 16:18   Link #2780
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Ragnarok seems to be a combination of both, since it generates a second circle for firing, which ends up as a Belkan triangle. While Hresvelgr is in the reverse... though I'm sure that's not a Breaker-type magic.

Either way, it's not a real qualifier as a Belkan Breaker-type magic.
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