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Old 2007-04-08, 22:56   Link #41
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No he was an ANBU Captain I believe, which is simply just part of a ranking system inside of ANBU which they came up with to differentiate the members. I think it's probably the equivalent of a Chuunin in a normal ninja group, in that he would lead a squad of ANBU members.

ANBU in and of itself is not a rank.
That is point, no matter how u look, he was not Chunnin .. He was ANBU leader/captain and that is his rank.. Which mean that Itachi had ANBU rank if rank exist in ANBU .. but i think that ANBU is rank on his own, becouse when u see ANBU no one mention his name, is just ANBU ..

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The demon brothers from the mission they were escorting the bridge builder I believe.
If he means about them tehy r not S-class they r Zabuza subordinates (chunnins)

EDIT: @Goshin : I strongly disagree with u .. i doubt that Naruto save any jutsu he is just to dumb for that .. he always say good i will show u my new jutsu or something like that ..

And i dont have anything against someone opinion, just when someone talk nonsense about any character even Naruto
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Old 2007-04-09, 07:32   Link #42
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Oh dear... i thought i started a thread about Naruto and it's story so far and it suddenly is about Itachi and/or his rank how did that happen?

Anyway those demon brothers....we they missing nin? Or were they doing a mission for the mist? The were working for gatou right?
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Old 2007-04-09, 08:07   Link #43
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You make it sound like ANBU is supposed to be this badass unit. Team Oro wrecked ANBU on a daily basis.
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:10   Link #44
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To my understanding the official ninja ranks go from Genin to chuunin to then Jounin with Kage being more of a selection rank since only another Kage can give a ninja this title as a sucessor. ANBU isnt really a rank its more of a secret ops faction that people with ranks such as Jounin and maybe Chuunin could join. A rank and a faction are two different things, a ninja could join any faction and be in any position like Itachi was an ANBU squad leader but his rank wouldnt be ANBU it will remain Jounin.

I believe Itachi was a Jounin when he killed off his clan.
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:17   Link #45
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I believe Itachi was a Jounin when he killed off his clan.
He was Chounin.
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:18   Link #46
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yes, he was a jounnin well since its bout itachi killing his clan cause he got magengkyo sharingan(did i spell it correcly?) . igotta ask is all magengkyo sharingan the same cause kakashi's one diff but stil cal magengkyo
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:27   Link #47
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Anbu isn't a rank. This brings up a good question, which is kind of on topic. With Kishi introducing the Akatsuki, is it in the Data book the actual rankings of each member? I'd like to know how much he considered these rankings along with the storyline. I was under the impression that almost every member left their village way before time. So in actuality, it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of them were still a genin.
When it comes to the databooks, missing-nin and ninja who are not part of real ninja villages have no listed rank at all... Itachi, Kisame, Zabuza, Haku, Orochimaru, and all of the sound ninja all have no offical ranking in terms of genin, chunin and jounin.

From what i gather, those rankings are offical rankings made for military use by the villages. So anyone who is not a part of the military does not have a rank... So once a ninja becomes a missing-nin they no longer have need for such ranks and thus they are stripped of it... Interesting thing to note along with this is that along with the missing-nin, two other ninjas that have no rank are Jiriaya, and Hiashi Huuyga... my guess on those two are that Jiriaya is like a retired ninja, no longer in active service to kohona's military, only in service on his own, and thus was stripped of ffical rank; and for Hiashi, my guess is even though he has high level of ninja skill he never went through the offical military of kohona, is not in service to kohona's military (just like jiriya is currently) and thus never recieved a rank to begin with (it kind of fits with the whole noble clan leader thing their clan has going on).
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:47   Link #48
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yes, he was a jounnin well since its bout itachi killing his clan cause he got magengkyo sharingan(did i spell it correcly?) . igotta ask is all magengkyo sharingan the same cause kakashi's one diff but stil cal magengkyo
Just to inform you...Itachi never became a Jounin.

He was a Chuunin at his first introduction (flashbacks) and later on became part of ANBU. And left as a former Konoha ANBU member.
He left as a ANBU Cpt. to be even more precise...if that would really matter...
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:51   Link #49
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As a matter of fact that is the reason, remember that those of the head clan don’t go to the battlefield or do mission, they don’t even go to the Konoha academy, reason why Hiahsi doesn’t have a Rank, whereas his brother a member of the branch family did have a Rank, just like Neeji, and Hinata been the exception as she was cast out of the Head Clan.

About Rank, is like most has been saying, ANBU isn’t a Rank inside the Military hierarchy of a Hidden Village, reason why when you see the rank tree, ANBU is nowhere to be found. ANBU is a branch of shinoby under the Hokage direct command, maybe ANBU has a sepparate Ranking system.

I fail to see what this has anything to do with the topic of the thread.
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Old 2007-04-09, 09:54   Link #50
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He was Chounin.
Yep he was and youre right johnny he didnt make it to Jounin he went straight from Chuunin to ANBU Squad leader.
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Old 2007-04-09, 10:00   Link #51
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Yep he was and youre right johnny he didnt make it to Jounin he went straight from Chuunin to ANBU Squad leader.
Thatís partially correct, He didnít go to Chunin to ANBU captain, he first was admitted into ANBU 6 months after becoming Chunin and then at age 13 he was appointed as ANBU captain. I think from the moment he became ANBU, he lost his normal Ranking inside Konoha military ranks.
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Old 2007-04-09, 10:50   Link #52
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I always felt Anbu were like Tokubetsu Jonin but seeing Itachi's case guess I was wrong or just maybe Itachi was an exception ?
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Old 2007-04-09, 10:51   Link #53
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back on topic, where do you guys think the storyline should go after the 2 current issues are resolved, (Sasuke & atasuki)
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Old 2007-04-09, 12:49   Link #54
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As a matter of fact that is the reason, remember that those of the head clan donít go to the battlefield or do mission, they donít even go to the Konoha academy, reason why Hiahsi doesnít have a Rank, whereas his brother a member of the branch family did have a Rank, just like Neeji, and Hinata been the exception as she was cast out of the Head Clan.

About Rank, is like most has been saying, ANBU isnít a Rank inside the Military hierarchy of a Hidden Village, reason why when you see the rank tree, ANBU is nowhere to be found. ANBU is a branch of shinoby under the Hokage direct command, maybe ANBU has a sepparate Ranking system.

I fail to see what this has anything to do with the topic of the thread.
It's partially my fault, Rurik. Spiro, from what I gather, basically thinks that Naruto is going downhill due to Akatsuki getting wasted by what he calls "genin." He also questioned why Hidan was allowed in Akatsuki in the first place because of his "not so smart" attitude.

I basically feel that rank has nothing to do with who wins a fight and Akatsuki was basically lifted in strength due to fanboy popularity. Akatsuki isn't uberpowerful, just talented. In other words, this should have no bearing on Naruto's declining status. But, these are strictly opinions LOL. My formula for why Naruto is going downhill was:

Spoiler for why Naruto may suck a little right now:
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Old 2007-04-09, 13:33   Link #55
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back on topic, where do you guys think the storyline should go after the 2 current issues are resolved, (Sasuke & atasuki)
I think the story pretty much ends after those issues are resolved. Unless there's some sort of Naruto v. Kyuubi thing afterwards.
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Old 2007-04-09, 14:39   Link #56
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I think the story pretty much ends after those issues are resolved. Unless there's some sort of Naruto v. Kyuubi thing afterwards.
Its hard to see the story continuing after those two issues being akatsuki and sasuke are resolved. Would be cool if there was a third Naruto instalment called Kage Chronicles with larger scale wars and more fights in the ninja world with a much cooler and matured Naruto.
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Old 2007-04-09, 16:33   Link #57
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Didn't the mist kill all their shinobi's?, so they wouldn't even have anything to fight with.
The only thing like that I remember was in Haku's past. Something about what were essentially witch hunts for people with bloodline abilities. I was under the impression that was done by non-ninja (i.e. the common folk of Water Country), though...

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You make it sound like ANBU is supposed to be this badass unit. Team Oro wrecked ANBU on a daily basis.
ANBU are fodder, unless they have names. THEN they're generally badass...
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Old 2007-04-09, 18:43   Link #58
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I think the story pretty much ends after those issues are resolved. Unless there's some sort of Naruto v. Kyuubi thing afterwards.
I think that the Kyuubi is the final villan and the strongest. He has been there since the beginning and probably at Naruto's end.

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Its hard to see the story continuing after those two issues being akatsuki and sasuke are resolved. Would be cool if there was a third Naruto instalment called Kage Chronicles with larger scale wars and more fights in the ninja world with a much cooler and matured Naruto.
Not at all....in fact the story should be alot more about Naruto & the Kyuubi.
That is what Naruto is about....his origin and why he is in such a terrible position.

The fact that Akatsuki already have soo many beasts in such a short of time (about 7 or 8 out of 9) means that their time Akatsuki is running out.
They wont last much longer.

There are guys stronger out there....that is for sure (3rd MS user, other Mist Swordsmen) perhaps the killers of the 1st & 2nd Hokages?
And there is Orochimaru ofcourse somewhere within Sasuke.

Also ANBU are definetly bad ass. They are the REAL ninja's. Kiba, Tenten or Shino should join ANBU . And restore the reputation of ANBU.

Spoiler for some nice pictures of ANBU:
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Old 2007-04-09, 18:57   Link #59
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I have to agree, the ANBU are the only ones that act like ninjas. They are concealed most of the time. Identities are hidden, and they do ninja stuff like assassinations. The "regular" ninjas are more like soldiers than ninjas.
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Not at all....in fact the story should be alot more about Naruto & the Kyuubi.
That is what Naruto is about....his origin and why he is in such a terrible position.

The fact that Akatsuki already have soo many beasts in such a short of time (about 7 or 8 out of 9) means that their time Akatsuki is running out.
They wont last much longer.

There are guys stronger out there....that is for sure (3rd MS user, other Mist Swordsmen) perhaps the killers of the 1st & 2nd Hokages?
And there is Orochimaru ofcourse somewhere within Sasuke.
I think that the Kyuubi & Naruto issue will happen around the same time the Akatsuki part is ending not afterwards. I say this because something needs to be triggered before a Naruto Kyuubi conflict could happen which would most likely be related to Akatsuki or furthermore their leader. Theres no known organisation that comes to mind which wants to meddle with tailed beasts so Akatsuki is the best bet, If Akatsuki were beaten the chances of the kyuubi escaping or being extracted become less likely.

The 3rd MS user has to be related to Akatsuki one way or another since Itachi seems to know him, from what weve seen from the mist swordsmen (Zabuza, Raiga and Kisame) theyre a mixed bag they arent all powerful their title seems to be overrated and plus they all seem to have sidekicks, although there are four more left unknown Its doubtful that they would be able to trouble Naruto's team much let alone unseal the Kyuubi after Akatsuki are defeated.
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