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Old 2008-11-12, 22:14   Link #5361
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Well, you guys have to keep something in mind- Moka was never "sent" to the human world. She went to the human world on her own accord to chase after her mother, and probably realized that she would stick out like a sore thumb in her true state. She's just that dedicated to finding her mother, it would seem (though tsukune has been distracting her, if you ask me)

Of course, the real question is, why the heck would Moka's mother go to the human world in the first place? We'r e all agreeing on the "wanting to get herself out of the underworld" theory, but I wonder if that's really it?

As for Kokoa... remember it was Moka's mother who went to the human world, not Kokoa's. And where the heck has it been stated that she was the heiress? I think you guys may be reading too much fanfic
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Old 2008-11-12, 22:32   Link #5362
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Well, you guys have to keep something in mind- Moka was never "sent" to the human world. She went to the human world on her own accord to chase after her mother, and probably realized that she would stick out like a sore thumb in her true state. She's just that dedicated to finding her mother, it would seem (though tsukune has been distracting her, if you ask me)

Of course, the real question is, why the heck would Moka's mother go to the human world in the first place? We'r e all agreeing on the "wanting to get herself out of the underworld" theory, but I wonder if that's really it?

As for Kokoa... remember it was Moka's mother who went to the human world, not Kokoa's. And where the heck has it been stated that she was the heiress? I think you guys may be reading too much fanfic
The 'heiress' part came from Kokoa, more or less . I admit it has not been stated that Moka is the legit heir, I just went from Kokoa's lil 'sister-worship' monologue to say that Moka might be the best suited of the four sisters to actually take the family head. Kalua can't do it - she's an assassin, and we know how Kokoa is right now.
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Old 2008-11-13, 00:13   Link #5363
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I do believe that's called being a siscon; after all, Moka was probably the only one Kokoa knew all that well

Because somehow I don't see the third child being heiress over the eldest... possible, but I'm calling unlikely for now
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Old 2008-11-13, 02:11   Link #5364
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Well, you guys have to keep something in mind- Moka was never "sent" to the human world. She went to the human world on her own accord to chase after her mother, and probably realized that she would stick out like a sore thumb in her true state. She's just that dedicated to finding her mother, it would seem (though tsukune has been distracting her, if you ask me)

Of course, the real question is, why the heck would Moka's mother go to the human world in the first place? We'r e all agreeing on the "wanting to get herself out of the underworld" theory, but I wonder if that's really it?

As for Kokoa... remember it was Moka's mother who went to the human world, not Kokoa's. And where the heck has it been stated that she was the heiress? I think you guys may be reading too much fanfic
Based on the translation I got from my translator Moka was actually sent to the human world to live with her mother, rather then her going there on her on.

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Old 2008-11-13, 05:54   Link #5365
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Who/Which team did that translation?
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Old 2008-11-13, 06:11   Link #5366
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Based on the translation I got from my translator Moka was actually sent to the human world to live with her mother, rather then her going there on her on.
The official French translation say the same thing.
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Old 2008-11-13, 06:33   Link #5367
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Are we totally sure the only reason she sealed her powers was to look for her mother? Maybe having that much raw power scared her a little. Maybe she went beserk at one point and totally destroyed everything.

I dunno. The whole "I sealed my power to find Mommy" doesn't seem to completely fit, given she remained sealed even after she returned to the Academy.
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Old 2008-11-13, 06:45   Link #5368
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Mommy might be held by the organization for some reason we dunno.
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Old 2008-11-13, 07:27   Link #5369
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Are we totally sure the only reason she sealed her powers was to look for her mother? Maybe having that much raw power scared her a little. Maybe she went beserk at one point and totally destroyed everything.
She didn't searched for her mother, she has been sent to live with her mother in the human world and at the same time her power has been sealed, probably because that was the only way for her to look like a human and not a vampire.
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Old 2008-11-13, 08:28   Link #5370
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Old 2008-11-13, 10:35   Link #5371
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well, here's something I completely overlooked, seeing my translation (however, we do have to keep in mind that some of the early chapters weren't translated quite so well, so there are discrepancies)-

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From this translation, it looks like her mother sealed her in, and she may be going to find her to see if she can be unsealed (although I'm sure at this point that she may want to keep the seal due to Outer forming)
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Old 2008-11-13, 10:45   Link #5372
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That's just bad translation.
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If I can find the RAW for that chapter (good luck, I know), then I'll use some resources and see if I can't get a transaltion by people who know what they're doing
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Latest released English translation (last week) :

It seems that I will be living with my real mother in the human world from now on.
Moreover, this power I have studiously forged will be sealed.
Today is probably the last match I will have with you.

French "official" translation from Tonkam (French editor of R+V) :

Je vais aller vivre avec ma vraie mère dans le monde des humains.
I will be living with my true mother in the human world.
Et ma force que j'ai acquise durant mon apprentissage, sera scellé.
And my power I have acquired through training will be sealed.
Aujourd'hui c'est peut-être la dernière fois que nous nous bagarrons.
Today is probably the last time we will be fighting each other.

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Old 2008-11-13, 11:09   Link #5376
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That's pretty much it. Just about all of Rosario II's scanlations have been speed-scanlations, which are just to get the chapters out. Which is why group is going back and redoing it all.
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Old 2008-11-13, 11:25   Link #5377
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well, found the raw... so here's my question: does this then that prior to Youkai academy, Moka was living with her mother? And who actually sealed moka, herself or her mother? I'm guessing it's the latter

as for them being speed scans, it was only the early ones. But I guess this does mean she was sent to her mother. And that leads to the ever infamous question of why she was
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Old 2008-11-13, 11:28   Link #5378
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Yes it is prior to her going to Youkai Academy. Moka did goto middle-school in the human world, so I'm guessing that page happened just before she did. Pretty sure whoever sent her to the human world was the person who had her sealed.

All of them are speed, even the ones now, it's all about who can get it out before the other, it's quite stupid actually. You should see some of the threads.
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I'm not asking if she went to a human school prior to Youkai academy. I'm asking if she was living with her mother when she went to the human school. After all, it is a common theme in anime and manga to be living by oneself while you're in school
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Old 2008-11-13, 11:37   Link #5380
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Well consdering she didn't enter the human world until she was sent to live with her mother, I would guess yes, she was going to the school while she was with her mother.

Yeah that's true, but the common factor being they're in high school when they do so.
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