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View Poll Results: Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 09 Rating
Perfect 10 13 15.85%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 29 35.37%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 20 24.39%
7 out of 10 : Good 10 12.20%
6 out of 10 : Average 6 7.32%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 2.44%
4 out of 10 : Poor 1 1.22%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 1.22%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:22   Link #161
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i checked almost every torrent i know but can't find even the ultra LQ raw, so anyone could send me a link with pm or post it in the thread? after 2 hours of searching i just give up..
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:22   Link #162
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I don't buy the "darkened" issue here, but I'll try to sum up my doubts, which are mostly screenplay-related:
Well, Nanoha was never really any good at explaining herself. (read: Starlight Breaker to face.)

Copypasta'd someone else's comments from some other forum, relevant:

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Old 2007-05-27, 16:24   Link #163
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Hum... ok Episode 9 Saw
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:25   Link #164
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back on topic ~
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I was thinking that if Shario didn't come and did the explanation , Subaru would end up in bruises just like Teana....Signum knight-ish way of teaching
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:27   Link #165
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I wish forum rules didn't exist. And yeah Aaron, you're quite right. RF6 Was created to deal with LL, not to be a flashy group that says "We're all powerful". They help people.

@Icarus: Edit your post. As much as I also want to express my personal opinion, it's clearly stated in the Forum Rules, that no flaming is to take place. Sadly, he hasn't insulted anyone in the forum yet.
Let's just leave it at that. He/She seems to be shot down well enough by Deathkillz already. Like I said from my earlier post:

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Calm down, Fuyu. If I didn't know better, I'd say he/she is just baiting you for more arguments. You must try not to allow it to get to your skin. We shouldn't force him/her if that person is so resolute on antagonizing the Nanoha characters. You've got a whole threads-worth of people agreeing with you after all. Getting annoyed in front of a computer is not very healthy.
Try not to stress yourself out over this, okay?

@Deathkillz: Thanks for bringing up Dark Nanoha again. It's been a while since I've last seen her.
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:29   Link #166
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So why does she NEVER wear the training sweats ALL the other officers engaged in training as wella s the trainnes wear? Because she wants to stand out, to be the centrer of attention, to be the celebrity.
Again the theorycrafting?

*Sigh* there are many reasons why she does not wear the same as others. For one, the white and blue uniform is her training uniform. In the first training sequence, she wears a barrier jacket to increase the difficullity level for the trainees. This is not an ego matter, but a training matter.

By the way, you still haven't explained where you managed to get this "black hole for love, devotion and attention" thing, nor the "contradicting her desire for love and devotion, causing her to lash out."

Plus, Nanoha's doesn't care about lost Logia? damn, can you cary the theorycrafting any further? I am getting heavy flashbacks to the WoW forums. Some of the forum trolls there could really get under my skin.

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Don't feed the trolls. ;p
I'm used to feeding them untill they explode, most of the times getting them banned in the proces.

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I don't buy the "darkened" issue here, but I'll try to sum up my doubts, which are mostly screenplay-related:

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Mkay, back to serious discussions:

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Old 2007-05-27, 16:35   Link #167
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Fact is, every other officer involved in training shows up in the training sweats, same as the trainees. Nanoha never gets out of her uniform, even though she often takes a direct role in training. I CAN'T be the only one to have noticed this.

I'll let TASB's incredibly lax human resource management slide (letting top level aces get into a stupid vanity unit and not members of more prominent units where they may be needed) as TASB is seems to be very happy-go-lucky orginization anyway. But there is NO reason for Nanoha to be there. If she REALLY wanted to train noobs, she could do it as a proper instructor in the TASB's own training programs, and thereby benfit MANY more people than just a couple of members hand-picked for their vanity unit. So what's the difference between Hayate's stupid little vanit unit and TASB's training programs?

The main difference being that RF6 is a small unit commanded by her personal friend, and that she'll be free to act as she pleases, and be the center of attention and devotion. In a regular military unit, she may be a celebrity, but there'll be a large chain of command or beuracracy surrouding her, and this does not give rise to the sort of personal world she wishes to build for herslef.

Even if you're inclined to find nothing wrong with Nanoha, you have to at least realize that if she REALLY wanted to save people from the dangers of reckless magic use, she could help many more poeple as a regular training unit instructor, and also impact TSAB's training doctorine.
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:35   Link #168
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I'm used to feeding them untill they explode, most of the times getting them banned in the proces.
Hahah, same here. I do it a lot at my usual forum.

In any rate, I liked this episode. It had quite a sombre mood, first with the punching, and then with the shouting, then the history lesson, and then with the tearful resolution. At least we can be sure that Teana will be more confident in her abilities and return to training with a more correct attitude.

Also, I do hope that's not filler in episode 10. -_-;;
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:39   Link #169
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Hahah, same here. I do it a lot at shmupsforum.

In any rate, I liked this episode. It had quite a sombre mood, first with the punching, and then with the shouting, then the history lesson, and then with the tearful resolution. At least we can be sure that Teana will be more confident in her abilities and return to training with a more correct attitude.

Also, I do hope that's not filler in episode 10. -_-;;
They probably would squeeze some character development here and there .I am expecting some more Caro X Erio date accident since Fate and Nanoha doesn't seem to go along with em.Teana and Subaru goes together in their motorbike that leave Erio alone with Caro behind

They could add surprise at the end just like ep 8, Dr.Orange might kidnap our shota to satisfy his hobby in the end of episode ^.^
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:45   Link #170
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Fact is, every other officer involved in training shows up in the training sweats, same as the trainees. Nanoha never gets out of her uniform, even though she often takes a direct role in training. I CAN'T be the only one to have noticed this.
Considering that uniform is Nanoha's training uniform (she is, in fact, the only one who has finished an instructor training) yes, yes you have. You simply failed to notice that you were completely wrong.

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I'll let TASB's incredibly lax human resource management slide (letting top level aces get into a stupid vanity unit and not members of more prominent units where they may be needed)
Relics can destroy entire planet, how is that not needed?

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as TASB is seems to be very happy-go-lucky orginization anyway. But there is NO reason for Nanoha to be there. If she REALLY wanted to train noobs, she could do it as a proper instructor in the TASB's own training programs, and thereby benfit MANY more people than just a couple of members hand-picked for their vanity unit. So what's the difference between Hayate's stupid little vanit unit and TASB's training programs?
Nanoha is training future elites, not newbies fresh to magic. There is a difference, and yes elites do have to be trained before they can become elites, this is a simple fact.

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The main difference being that RF6 is a small unit commanded by her personal friend, and that she'll be free to act as she pleases, and be the center of attention and devotion. In a regular military unit, she may be a celebrity, but there'll be a large chain of command or beuracracy surrouding her, and this does not give rise to the sort of personal world she wishes to build for herslef.
You have not watched every episode, have you? RF6 is still tied to a strict chain of command, one that goes beyond Hayate. This again, nulliefies your -still baseless i might add- 'center of atention and devotion' theory.

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Even if you're inclined to find nothing wrong with Nanoha, you have to at least realize that if she REALLY wanted to save people from the dangers of reckless magic use, she could help many more poeple as a regular training unit instructor, and also impact TSAB's training doctorine.
I never said there is nothing wrong with Nanoha. She has made mistakes, multiple, in fact. However, she never wanted to save everyone from reckless magic abuse. Tiana just happened to be in the unit, and had that problem. If she never had that problem, it would have never even been brought to the surface.
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:45   Link #171
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They probably would squeeze some character development here and there .I am expecting some more Caro X Erio date accident since Fate and Nanoha doesn't seem to go along with em.Teana and Subaru goes together in their motorbike that leave Erio alone with Caro behind

They could add surprise at the end just like ep 8, Dr.Orange might kidnap our shota to satisfy his hobby in the end of episode ^.^

Let's leave the shotacon part out, please.
In any case, the next episode could end in peacefully or with another emergency.
Or maybe they could put in some trouble midway.
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:47   Link #172
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Meh, I'm hoping for a peacefull one for a change. Enough robots for now
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:48   Link #173
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Fact is, every other officer involved in training shows up in the training sweats, same as the trainees. Nanoha never gets out of her uniform, even though she often takes a direct role in training. I CAN'T be the only one to have noticed this.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold !!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning !

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?


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I'll let TASB's incredibly lax human resource management slide (letting top level aces get into a stupid vanity unit and not members of more prominent units where they may be needed) as TASB is seems to be very happy-go-lucky orginization anyway. But there is NO reason for Nanoha to be there. If she REALLY wanted to train noobs, she could do it as a proper instructor in the TASB's own training programs, and thereby benfit MANY more people than just a couple of members hand-picked for their vanity unit. So what's the difference between Hayate's stupid little vanit unit and TASB's training programs?

HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 !


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The main difference being that RF6 is a small unit commanded by her personal friend, and that she'll be free to act as she pleases, and be the center of attention and devotion. In a regular military unit, she may be a celebrity, but there'll be a large chain of command or beuracracy surrouding her, and this does not give rise to the sort of personal world she wishes to build for herslef.
This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done!

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Even if you're inclined to find nothing wrong with Nanoha, you have to at least realize that if she REALLY wanted to save people from the dangers of reckless magic use, she could help many more poeple as a regular training unit instructor, and also impact TSAB's training doctorine.
That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!



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Old 2007-05-27, 16:49   Link #174
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They probably would squeeze some character development here and there .I am expecting some more Caro X Erio date accident since Fate and Nanoha doesn't seem to go along with em.Teana and Subaru goes together in their motorbike that leave Erio alone with Caro behind

They could add surprise at the end just like ep 8, Dr.Orange might kidnap our shota to satisfy his hobby in the end of episode ^.^
Well, given that we've seen a conclusion to Teana's arc, a bit of history on Caro, and parts of Subaru's backstory, it would be safe to say that Erio is next in line for some character development. Especially given that he's tied in to Project Fate, along with Fate and Dr. Spaghetti. Perhaps something involving Erio, Lutecia and the "good" Doc?

Lutecia: *Darth Vader voice* "Erio... I AM your sister..."

*gets on his knees and prays*
Please God, don't let it be useless filler.
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:51   Link #175
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Let's leave the shotacon part out, please.
In any case, the next episode could end in peacefully or with another emergency.
Or maybe they could put in some trouble midway.
WHY!!!....

"Satisfy his hobby"as in his hobby on relic/LL related materials and since Erio is a remnant of Project F which most probably related to Jewels seeds so

Ok ok i understand Just kidding

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HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold !!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning !

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?





HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 !




This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done!



That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!



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You'd scare away even the most resolute trolls by the way your speaking.
And I thought the pic of Dark Nanoha was good enough.
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Old 2007-05-27, 16:56   Link #177
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You'd scare away even the most resolute trolls by the way your speaking.
And I thought the pic of Dark Nanoha was good enough.
Lesson of the day?

There're always ways around flaming
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Lesson of the day?

There're always ways around flaming
Hai! *takes down notes*
By the way, Chaos, did you find anything in the episode to poke with?
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HAHAHAHAHAHA.....!!!

This is comedy gold !!! What a way to start the day at 5:50am in the morning !

Please oh PLEASE tell me why did an instructor who is specialized in RANGE combat needs to be seen sweating?

For that matter, why does it even matter to you that she sweat?

Does it bother you so much? Does it get you a burning desire to cut something? Scratch your eyes out? Tear your hair out?

HAHAHAHAHAHA....!

Oh this is pure gold! You should really come into the business with us

I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate was the one who created this department... I LOVE it how you ignored that Hayate asked Nanoha to join her... I LOVE it you ignored the job description of RF6 !

This person is a genius!

I mean, how many people could pick out nanoha's evil and non-existing flaws in her character?!

Nicely done!

That is so cool!

I like it how you prove that you've only watched this and ONLY this episode

Yeah! Why should her reasons from episode 2 be more important! Screw that! That's the spirit!!

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Master Chaos is back in gear

@Aaron: You're right. Besides, this could cause wars again -_-;;
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Hmm... there is nothing more idiotic than to discuss skills, abilities and personality as one. It is laughable to base the cause of success purely on ethics.

And to indirectly respond to GUTB_ just from quotation, "belief is but a strong wish, and there is no subjective ground to speak of. the stronger the belief, the narrower the perspective, and the more error-prone judgment and analysis become. basically, belief is a loathsome term, and should just be appended in the dictionary and not to be speak of. To kill based on one's belief is more despicable than to kill for money, since money is universally transferable, while the value to belief is limited to the individual."
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