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Old 2009-07-09, 13:40   Link #2921
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a silly question I was wondering about while packing for my holiday tomorrow D:
its about calling to someone in another country, for example I know the number for Great Britain is 44, but I am a little confused about the international number, if I were to call this person do I have to dial 0044 (followed by the phone number itself)?

(00 is the international number for this country if I am correct)
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Old 2009-07-09, 16:40   Link #2922
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a silly question I was wondering about while packing for my holiday tomorrow D:
its about calling to someone in another country, for example I know the number for Great Britain is 44, but I am a little confused about the international number, if I were to call this person do I have to dial 0044 (followed by the phone number itself)?

(00 is the international number for this country if I am correct)
I'm pretty sure you don't have to dial the 00. Though the 44 is necessary. In my experience from calling Shanghai's, I've only needed to dial China's international number, 011, and I think Shanghai's thing, 86. So I'd only have add the 01186 to the beginning of the number. That maybe wrong...

At any rate you won't need this country's int'l code.
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Old 2009-07-09, 17:12   Link #2923
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Hello. I didn't want to make a new topic for this one, so I'll just ask here.

I have a long text file. Very long. I want to delete the lines starting with ";". They are around 11500. So far with 'Windows Grep' I have achieved of selecting them, however not the lines, only the lines starting with ";", but the ";" at the beginning, not the whole line itself..

Any help is much appreciated.

In other words;

^; lets me find the lines starting with ";"
Which commands makes me delete the whole desired line?
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Old 2009-07-09, 17:15   Link #2924
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a silly question I was wondering about while packing for my holiday tomorrow D:
its about calling to someone in another country, for example I know the number for Great Britain is 44, but I am a little confused about the international number, if I were to call this person do I have to dial 0044 (followed by the phone number itself)?

(00 is the international number for this country if I am correct)
I think you are getting the Country Code mixed up with the International Direct Dialing code.

The country code (i.e. 44 for the U.K.) is used to dial into a country.
The IDD code (i.e. 00 for the U.K.) is used to dial out of a country.

For example the IDD code (or prefix code) is 00 for most of Europe and 011 for the U.S.

If I was in the U.K. and wanted to phone China, then I would dial 0086 (00 is the U.K. IDD and 86 is the country code for China).

If I was in the U.S. and wanted to phone China, then I would dial 01186 (011 is the U.S. IDD and 86 is the country code for China).

If I was in Japan and wanted to phone China, then I would dial 01086 (010 is the Japanese IDD and 86 is the country code for China).

If I was in China and wanted to phone the U.K. then I would dial 0044 (00 is the Chinese IDD and 44 is the country code for the U.K.).

BTW, from the Wiki page "From a mobile device, one can use a "+" instead of the local IDD code, "+" is universal prefix for all international calls."

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In my experience from calling Shanghai's, I've only needed to dial China's international number, 011, and I think Shanghai's thing, 86. So I'd only have add the 01186 to the beginning of the number. That maybe wrong...
You definately are mixing up the country code and the IDD code. 011 is the IDD for the U.S. and 86 is the country code for China, the 011 allows you to dial out of the U.S. and the 86 allows you to dial into China. 01186 has nothing to do with Shanghai specifically.

BTW, when you dial international numbers you usually drop the leading 0 of the local number.
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Old 2009-07-09, 21:39   Link #2925
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Most anime females ( e.g. Lunamaria ) wear some kind of foot garment...

Is that a long sock or tights or a stocking ???


e.g.

Stockings, because they end at the upper thigh region. If they were leggings (tights) then they'd cover that region, but would likely stop somewhere around the calf or lower.

I've never seen socks that go that long, not to mention that socks generally aren't as form-fitting as tights or stockings (and partly as a result, nobody would use them as the sex appeal is lower).
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Old 2009-07-10, 02:21   Link #2926
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I think you are getting the Country Code mixed up with the International Direct Dialing code.

The country code (i.e. 44 for the U.K.) is used to dial into a country.
The IDD code (i.e. 00 for the U.K.) is used to dial out of a country.

For example the IDD code (or prefix code) is 00 for most of Europe and 011 for the U.S.

If I was in the U.K. and wanted to phone China, then I would dial 0086 (00 is the U.K. IDD and 86 is the country code for China).

If I was in the U.S. and wanted to phone China, then I would dial 01186 (011 is the U.S. IDD and 86 is the country code for China).

If I was in Japan and wanted to phone China, then I would dial 01086 (010 is the Japanese IDD and 86 is the country code for China).

If I was in China and wanted to phone the U.K. then I would dial 0044 (00 is the Chinese IDD and 44 is the country code for the U.K.).

BTW, from the Wiki page "From a mobile device, one can use a "+" instead of the local IDD code, "+" is universal prefix for all international calls."


You definately are mixing up the country code and the IDD code. 011 is the IDD for the U.S. and 86 is the country code for China, the 011 allows you to dial out of the U.S. and the 86 allows you to dial into China. 01186 has nothing to do with Shanghai specifically.

BTW, when you dial international numbers you usually drop the leading 0 of the local number.
so basically I would just have to use the 44+ and not the 0044+
I think I get it now =) thank a lot ojisan
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Old 2009-07-10, 06:40   Link #2927
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Which commands makes me delete the whole desired line?
I've never used grep on Windows, but if it supports the usual command-line switches, you can use the "-v" switch to tell it to output only the lines that don't match the pattern. Something like this:

C:\>grep -v '^;' oldfile > newfile

should put the lines without leading semicolons into newfile. (I think Windows, like most Unix shells, uses ">" to direct output to a file.)
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Old 2009-07-10, 12:16   Link #2928
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so basically I would just have to use the 44+ and not the 0044+
I think I get it now =) thank a lot ojisan
This is totally incorrect and implies you still do not understand the principle

If you wish to dail an International number you always start with the IDD code (i.e. you would start with something like 00 or 010).

Let's make it easier, please tell us where you will be (in what country) and tell us where you want to dial (what country do you want to phone). We can then give you examples of what you should dial. Note: Please don't give us a "real" phone number, use an example like 01234 567890 but give use real examples of what country you will be in and what country you want to dial.

For example, let's say I wanted to call a U.K. number (01234 567 890) while I was in France.

I would therefore phone 00 44 1234 567 890

00 = the local IDD code for France (you need this to dial out of the country).
44 = the country code for the U.K. (you need this do dail into the desired country)
1234 = the area code (please note the leading "0" has been removed on purpose).
567 890 = example phone number.

If you were phoning from a mobile then instead of using 00441234567890, you could dail +4412345678790 (you actually start with the plus sign, "+", when dialing from the mobile). Either method works from a mobile phone. When using the "+" from a mobile you do not need to remember or know what the local IDD code is since the mobile "knows" that it means you want to dial out of the country.

Maybe that's why we are getting confused, you said "I would just have to use the 44+ and not the 0044+". Maybe there is some confusion over the use of the character "+" here. When I use the "+" character, I actually mean you press the "+" key on the phone. You would never start an International call with 44<number> or 44+<number>, you must either use 0044<number> or +44<number> (or at least the correct IDD code followed by the country code followed by the phone number).
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Old 2009-07-10, 13:29   Link #2929
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How do you drink alcohol? It tastes horrible. I've tried beer, wine, sake, etc, and they all taste exactly the same because the bitterness of the alcohol overpowers everything else. I've heard that people drink to get drunk and not for the taste, but I find that its too disgusting to keep drinking. Is it an acquired taste (in that your taste buds eventually die), or is there some genetic factor that causes me to taste it more strongly or something?

Also, I have to raise my eyebrow at the idea of being a wine connoisseur. Alcohol is anything but subtle in my experience.
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Old 2009-07-10, 13:34   Link #2930
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I would say its a per person thing, just like you have people who like X food and people who hate it same applies for drinks (of any kind; not limited to alcoholic). That said in the case of alcohol you are correct, I can't give you a % but trust me in that a lot of it is not made to be tasted or flavored but rather just your average drug.
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Old 2009-07-10, 19:49   Link #2931
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Stockings, because they end at the upper thigh region. If they were leggings (tights) then they'd cover that region, but would likely stop somewhere around the calf or lower.

I've never seen socks that go that long, not to mention that socks generally aren't as form-fitting as tights or stockings (and partly as a result, nobody would use them as the sex appeal is lower).

Tnx mate. So, most anime females wear stockings for the sex appeal then?

Some people might think Japanese girls like stockings hehe
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Old 2009-07-10, 20:06   Link #2932
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How do you drink alcohol? It tastes horrible.
Agreed - I can't stand the stuff. I also don't find the idea of being drunk appealing, either. Stay awake for two days straight and, from a physiological standpoint, your brain functions as though it were drunk. I've never become drunk off of alcohol but I've certainly suffered through two (once even three) sleepless nights, and if that experience is anything to go by, getting drunk isn't really my idea of fun.

Very few people like it for the taste. There are ways to get around that. A common one is to have something with a strong taste to offset that of the alcohol. I've seen some people take a bite of a pickle (yet another terrible tasting object, in my opinion) and then take a drink (not sure if they swallow the pickle first). Others try to hide the taste by mixing their drink with orange juice; still others use lemons or limes to hide the taste, in a manner similar to the use of the pickle that I mentioned before, I believe. Fancy drinks often have the lip of the glass coated heavily with salt, which I believe is also done in an effort to offset the foul taste.

I've never tried any of those tips - those are just things I've observed. I still don't see the appeal behind alcohol, especially given its cost and relative uselessness. But then, I'm not a partier, nor am I incapable of making conservation outside of telling drunk stories or requiring alcohol in my system to be social.

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Tnx mate. So, most anime females wear stockings for the sex appeal then?

Some people might think Japanese girls like stockings hehe
Why do most anime females wear stockings? I have no idea. Why did the creators draw them that way? Maybe because they think it looks nice; maybe because they have a stocking fetish. I can't tell you for certain what the thinking was behind drawing them that way. All that I can say for certain is that many character designers are male, and that stockings/leggings do have a certain appeal behind them (whether in anime or in real life).
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Old 2009-07-10, 23:54   Link #2933
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Maybe they are just cold with the short skirts they always wear.
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Old 2009-07-11, 01:53   Link #2934
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Why did the creators draw them that way?
I suspect the main reason there are is such a variety of socks, leggings and stocking drawn in manga / anime is so that it's easier for the viewer to distinguish between the characters. Same reason we have such outlandish hair styles and hair colour.
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Old 2009-07-11, 03:45   Link #2935
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Stay awake for two days straight and, from a physiological standpoint, your brain functions as though it were drunk.
No. I periodically have to stay awake for what are periods of 35h - 42h, very rarely more, trust me its not the same thing. The observable symptoms may look the same but otherwise its totally different then when you're drunk.

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Very few people like it for the taste.
Go to Russia they even drink the medical stuff there =P

Usually you drink it to offset the taste of the food. Alcohol kills some of the taste you build up in your mouth so you can flavor it more (supposedly), its also like liquid spice to some. This applies to wine and flavors of pure alcohol (basically stuff that burn in your trout), though from my experience beer doesn't count since it just makes you drunk faster then any other flavor.

The other common use (as far as people are concern) is to take a sip when its freezing outside so as to keep warm.
I think I should mention by freezing think of snow up to your knee not some cold morning.
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Old 2009-07-11, 04:31   Link #2936
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How do you drink alcohol? It tastes horrible. I've tried beer, wine, sake, etc, and they all taste exactly the same because the bitterness of the alcohol overpowers everything else. I've heard that people drink to get drunk and not for the taste, but I find that its too disgusting to keep drinking. Is it an acquired taste (in that your taste buds eventually die), or is there some genetic factor that causes me to taste it more strongly or something?

Also, I have to raise my eyebrow at the idea of being a wine connoisseur. Alcohol is anything but subtle in my experience.
Its not necessarily an "acquired" taste.. just because *you* find it unlikeable doesn't mean others agree or can't taste the difference. Since you're saying that such wildly different tastes as beer, sake, and wine "all taste alike" --- all I can say is you've saved yourself a lot of money to spend on other things. Those things taste *nothing* alike to many people.

My wife loathes beer because of the hops flavor, but loves sake. She likes unfiltered sake better than filtered. She hates most wines except for chianti, mead, and a few desert wines.

I happen to like scotch.... whereas I can't stand most tequilas. I prefer stout (very dark thick beer) over most other beers but I'm somewhat fond of asian beers (which are extremely thin clear beers).

On the other hand, milk tastes rotted to me no matter how fresh and cold it is.
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Old 2009-07-11, 04:53   Link #2937
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On the other hand, milk tastes rotted to me no matter how fresh and cold it is.
Heh, Same.
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Old 2009-07-11, 07:08   Link #2938
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Since you're saying that such wildly different tastes as beer, sake, and wine "all taste alike" --- all I can say is you've saved yourself a lot of money to spend on other things. Those things taste *nothing* alike to many people.
My first experience with "beer" was right after my passing out ceremony from Officer Cadet School. A free flow of Tiger throughout the night. A good number of us, including me, literally "passed out" that night.

But, in truth, I hated the taste of it. That tangy, chemically bitter aftertaste that clung to my palate, tongue, teeth and gums — I strongly disliked it. That nauseating feeling of too much alcohol forcing its way back out my gullet — that wasn't too ejoyable either.

At the time, I couldn't imagine how anyone could enjoy "beer".

But that changed after I started studying in Britain and discovered real ale. And ooooh boooy, did things really change after that. I discovered a country of people who shared my dislike of lager and instead relished a good English pint of Kilkenny (frothy, creamy goodness) or Boddington (full-flavoured hops with a good creamy head).

In short, even among beers — lager or otherwise — there can be great differences in flavours (Stella Artois, for example, is one of the better-tasting lagers out there). Enjoying alcohol is, perhaps, an acquired taste. I definitely prefer ale over lager, because of the stronger, natural flavour of hops. And I'd always love a pint of good Irish stout — it has the flavour of a cup of strong coffee coupled with a satisfying kick. And it's so thick that it's probably more accurate to say that you eat it rather than drink it.

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...from my experience beer doesn't count since it just makes you drunk faster then any other flavor.
The alcohol content in beer typically ranges between 4 and 6 per cent. Technically, drinking a lot of beer is more likely to send you to the bathroom (to take a piss) than get you drunk. Those who are in rush to get high tend to prefer vodka instead, which typically has an alcohol content of around 40 per cent. Vodka has the advantage of being almost tasteless and it mixes well with a variety of sodas, making it far more palatable.

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I happen to like scotch.... whereas I can't stand most tequilas.
Whereas I absolutely abhor hard liquor. The taste of alcohol in most such beverages is simply too overpowering for me. And I'm certainly very glad that I don't have to entertain guests like they do in China or South Korea — Asian liquour (I'm not talking about sake here; sake is child's play compared to, say, maotai) is usually very rough for both the palate and the throat, lacking the redeeming smoothness of scotch or brandy.

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On the other hand, milk tastes rotted to me no matter how fresh and cold it is.
I love milk. Milk is good. Builds strong bones. Tastes yummy too, especially full-cream milk.
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Old 2009-07-11, 08:07   Link #2939
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I suspect the main reason there are is such a variety of socks, leggings and stocking drawn in manga / anime is so that it's easier for the viewer to distinguish between the characters. Same reason we have such outlandish hair styles and hair colour.
Maybe that's true, but it's also an otaku meme, the "zettai ryouiki" or "absolute terror zone." Taken from Evangelion (the "AT" field), the term refers to the area of a girl's thigh above the stocking but below the skirt. A Google search for "zettai ryouiki" turns up a number of pages; this one provides a useful overview (or underview if you prefer).
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Old 2009-07-11, 08:34   Link #2940
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Maybe that's true, but it's also an otaku meme, the "zettai ryouiki" or "absolute terror zone." Taken from Evangelion (the "AT" field), the term refers to the area of a girl's thigh above the stocking but below the skirt. A Google search for "zettai ryouiki" turns up a number of pages; this one provides a useful overview (or underview if you prefer).
Except that's a recent phenomenon. I suspect the origins in the use of the different leg wear was simply to help identify characters and it started well before the term otaku has it's current usage, let along the term "zettai ryouiki".
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