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Old 2008-02-25, 00:54   Link #3041
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Yeah but don't you guys think that by the second season everything should be moving into space?

They can't get into space if the elevator's destroyed.
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Old 2008-02-25, 01:06   Link #3042
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Saji will become gundam.
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Old 2008-02-25, 01:52   Link #3043
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Yeah but don't you guys think that by the second season everything should be moving into space?

They can't get into space if the elevator's destroyed.
There are two other elevators. The destruction of one would totally destabilize the balance of the three factions, though.
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Old 2008-02-25, 01:56   Link #3044
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That was my point. The reason why the 3 blocs never go to war with each other is because of the damages that could occur to the solar elevators which not only direct energy but is their forward base of operations into colony development.

And of course we see that both the Union and HRL already have colonies in space with the AEU trying to catch up.

And this Laguna so happens to run the company that is involved in sending the badly needed materials and labour up into space so why would he endanger his own operations? This guy already controls the world with his linear train.

To me it seems more like bringing power back into the United Nations. Which Alejandro belongs to and we see that the UN isn't what it used to be compared to now when they arrived in Azakadistan (The sponsor nations apparently were behind their donations...)

None of the 3 blocs are actually allowed to use the GN-X's under their own militaries. As we see on Johann's radar the GN-X's are bearing UNITED NATIONS signatures, not HRL/AEU/Union. Their profile on the offical site also lists them under UN jurisdiction, not any of the 3 blocs.

So yeah they can play with the toys but only under the UN's flag.
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Old 2008-02-25, 02:09   Link #3045
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That can be easily explained by mentioning that the destruction of the Elevator was part of Veda's plan to put everything back on track after eliminating Alejandro.

The destruction of either Elevator (along with the GN-Xs) using the yet rumoured MA will be an ultimate show of might for CB that they are not too be taken lightly even if the Powers possess some of CB's technology.

With the Gundams damaged and the Powers exhausting their military resources, things could turn into a Stalement for some time. Of course, with CB still around, the Powers will choose to maintain their Alliance and rebuild the Elevators and wait for a time to counterattack. This will bring us forward to Season 2.
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Old 2008-02-25, 02:36   Link #3046
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That can be easily explained by mentioning that the destruction of the Elevator was part of Veda's plan to put everything back on track after eliminating Alejandro.

But they could have eliminated Alejandro at any time. He only lives by VEDA's whim. Why would they let him disrupt their plan when they knew about him and his little mutiny the entire series?
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Old 2008-02-25, 03:22   Link #3047
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Some people like to strike down the enemy at very important event. The Celestial Beings could be waiting for the chance of Alejandro to reveal himself as the mastermind behind the thrones, than the Celestial Beings would kill him, making them look like the saviors. Obviously this is pure guess work, there are dozens of reason why the left Alejandro alone. It could also be the fact the other Celestial Being members don't have the authority to take actions or they don't have the power like what he has, eg. having the UN to back you up.
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Old 2008-02-25, 04:51   Link #3048
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Gundam 00 Cumulative DVD Sales Comparison (so far)

Code:
Week  Seed   FMA    NANA   Geass  LuckyStar   00
1    30,147 21,450 27,325 36,634 25,917 22,847
2    38,685 **,*** 43,045 45,593 33,874 30,912
3    41,939 34,458 50,235 49,188 36,113 33,485
4    44,022 40,777 54,530 51,684 37,114 35,342
5    45,952 45,725 56,809 54,179 **,***
6    48,150 49,238 58,620 56,187 **,***
7    49,748 51,677 60,070 57,463 **,***
8    50,893 53,226 **,*** 58,458 **,***
9    52,306 54,497 **,*** **,*** **,***
10    53,408 55,819 **,*** **,*** **,***
11    54,404 **,*** **,*** **,*** **,***
12    55,701 **,*** **,*** **,*** **,***
13    56,794 **,*** **,*** **,*** **,***
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
TOTAL 71,081 64,992 63,284 62,527 38,671
If the DVD sales proceed at this rate for future volumes (highly unlikely), 00 would be the #15 all-time best selling TV series in terms of media sales (VHS, DVD, LD).

BTW, Seed and Seed Destiny are numbered #5 and #3 on that list, respectively. Evangelion and the original MSG are #1 and #2.
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Old 2008-02-25, 05:08   Link #3049
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I'll like to bring some attention to a earlier post in this thread just to see how much of it is true.

Mizushima mention that the show was to showcase "the effect of war". Perhaps the 2nd Season will do just that, how the world was changed. Interestingly, The brift bit about 911 will perhaps be reflected as the Space Elevator Collaspe in Ep 24. And Graham might just be a salute to those brave American Firefighters/Police Officers that died trying to save Cillivians in the collaspe of the Twin Towers.

We certainly did get a minimum of romance as Mizushima had promised. Nothing apart from Saji X Louise. And we didn't get much from Lockon X Felt.
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Old 2008-02-25, 08:50   Link #3050
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Episode 22-24 Rumours Confirmed :-



第22話 トランザム   ヨハン&ミハエル死亡、GNアームズ登場、アレハンドロ暗殺
Ep 22 Transam
Johanne & Micheal Killed. GN Arms Debut. Alejandro Assisinated.
第23話 世界を止めて 奪ったツヴァイで猛攻、エクシア真機能開放、サーシェス死亡
Ep 23 The World Stopped
Attacked of the Hijacked Zwei. Exia Powered Up. Ali KIA.
第24話 終りなき詩   プトレマイオス轟沈、超巨大MAでネーナ大暴れ
Ep 24 Endless Poem
Ptolemaios Sinked. Rampaged of Nena in a Giant MA.

And looks like Ep 25 is going to be true too
第25話 刹那       軌道エレベーター倒壊、ダリル、ネーナ、ラッセ死亡
Ep 25 Setsuna.
Collaspe of the Space Elevator. Daryl, Nena, Lasse Aion KIA.

Place your bets on whether Graham will be KIA.
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Old 2008-02-25, 08:53   Link #3051
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omg so there is a chance that he might not?

so maybe he might only get hurt?
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Old 2008-02-25, 08:56   Link #3052
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omg so there is a chance that he might not?

so maybe he might only get hurt?
I'm only saying this because this sole magazine scans with the synopsis of Ep 22-24didn't mention anything about Graham.

But with the murmurs on 2ch about Nena rampaging in a MA and destorying the Space Elevator to be true, my money is on Graham dying a heroic death.
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Old 2008-02-25, 08:59   Link #3053
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too many loose ends to tie up.. hope it doesnt suck like seed/destiny did at the end. Soma seems a worthless char- might have been better if her "connection" with hallelujah was expanded
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Old 2008-02-25, 09:05   Link #3054
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too many loose ends to tie up.. hope it doesnt suck like seed/destiny did at the end. Soma seems a worthless char- might have been better if her "connection" with hallelujah was expanded
We still have the 2nd Season. And I believe that Soma will have a hand in destroying Al/Hal's mind. That when we might get to see some backstory no matter how trivial/short.
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Old 2008-02-25, 09:16   Link #3055
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We still have the 2nd Season. And I believe that Soma will have a hand in destroying Al/Hal's mind. That when we might get to see some backstory no matter how trivial/short.
Yeah but her existance is pretty trivial and she hasn't "proved" much of being a supersoldier...
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Old 2008-02-25, 09:17   Link #3056
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Episode 22-24 Rumours Confirmed :-



第22話 トランザム   ヨハン&ミハエル死亡、GNアームズ登場、アレハンドロ暗殺
Ep 22 Transam
Johanne & Micheal Killed. GN Arms Debut. Alejandro Assisinated.
第23話 世界を止めて 奪ったツヴァイで猛攻、エクシア真機能開放、サーシェス死亡
Ep 23 The World Stopped
Attacked of the Hijacked Zwei. Exia Powered Up. Ali KIA.
第24話 終りなき詩   プトレマイオス轟沈、超巨大MAでネーナ大暴れ
Ep 24 Endless Poem
Ptolemaios Sinked. Rampaged of Nena in a Giant MA.

And looks like Ep 25 is going to be true too
第25話 刹那       軌道エレベーター倒壊、ダリル、ネーナ、ラッセ死亡
Ep 25 Setsuna.
Collaspe of the Space Elevator. Daryl, Nena, Lasse Aion KIA.

Place your bets on whether Graham will be KIA.
If these synopsis are true, then I wouldn't bet on Graham dying before the season's finale. Should Graham die, the synopsis should have mentioned it somewhere in those lines. I mean, Alejandro's assassination and Ali's death was mentioned; I don't see why Graham's death wasn't. =S
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Old 2008-02-25, 09:26   Link #3057
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If these synopsis are true, then I wouldn't bet on Graham dying before the season's finale. Should Graham die, the synopsis should have mentioned it somewhere in those lines. I mean, Alejandro's assassination and Ali's death was mentioned; I don't see why Graham's death wasn't. =S
In case you didn't notice, the Anon who post this on 2ch didn't exactly lifted the Synopsis from the shot. He only linked the synopsis to rumours/spoliers and interpret it according to how the Episodes will played out.

An short yet exact translation of the synopsis will be like :-

Ep 21 Operation commence to eradicate CB.
Ep 22 Setsuna makes a decision for a possible last stand
Ep 23 Ali takes Zwei. Force Setsuna and Trinity to a corner (Nena alone ?)
Ep 24 Gundams heavily damaged. MEISTERS, TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL !!

But the rumours was spot on about Ali taking Zwei. So I believe the Anon who makes the link.
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Old 2008-02-25, 09:42   Link #3058
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it is weird how the gundam meisters and thrones being cornered because the other side got new units.. it almost seems "anyone" with a great unit and beat anyone else.
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Old 2008-02-25, 10:03   Link #3059
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Nena in Giant MA .
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Old 2008-02-25, 10:09   Link #3060
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Nena in Giant MA .
As it was pointed out, piloting giant MA = death. So at least those people in 4 chan would be happy...
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