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Old 2012-09-13, 11:24   Link #4501
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I still don't know what the exact word/sentence to describe her personality ;( It seems she understand how the world around her works but still keeping up that 'naive' personality upfront. But at the same time, she also doesn't seem like trying to deceive other by using that naive personality either
I think, Lacus is so honest in what she wants and how she conveys her feelings that it became slightly disturbing to some audiences.

She has a clear mindset, she knows what she needs to do, and she will go out of her way to get it. There is no need to deceive, because she is very open about her desires and apparently thats just how she operates.

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Old 2012-09-13, 11:33   Link #4502
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Agreed. I also don't understand why Destined Fate said that Lacus is naive .
Sum it up to ''If you don't interact or is involved with Shinn,I don't like you''
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Old 2012-09-13, 14:12   Link #4503
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Lacus being involved or not with Shinn has nothing to do with why I hate her. She's too perfect, overly idealistic(I hate those that ignore reality for their own little pipe dreams) and naive since her views on conflict are childish. It was facepalm worthy when she agreed with Kira's "Let's just fly around and try and stop battles when we don't know what's going on even if it gets people killed" deal. That and she betrayed her people because she was craving Kira when she was still arranged to marry Athrun, who was trying to make things work, whom she didn't turn down. At least Cagalli was being forced into her marriage and only accepted to continue it because it was for the good of Orb.

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Let's be straight here.The only reason you even bring up Lunamaria,is because she's involved with Shinn.Would you even bring her up if she wasn't?

I mean who are you kidding! Cause......huh? ''looks around'' ain't no fool over here.

''Hey if they interact or is involved with shinn,then their cool with me''...
I already said I prefered short haired tomboys and Lunamaria fits that as does Cagalli. Or are you saying that Cagalli was "involved" with Shinn too? Seriously, drop your petty little grudge already.

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Old 2012-09-13, 15:22   Link #4504
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It was facepalm worthy when she agreed with Kira's "Let's just fly around and try and stop battles when we don't know what's going on even if it gets people killed" deal.
She knew what was going on, the war was escalating to the point where both sides were trying to genocide each other and not even try to negotiate. The only way to stop them was to get between them and keep them from destroying each other completely. People were going to die either way but they believed that interfering would cause the least amount of deaths.

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That and she betrayed her people because she was craving Kira when she was still arranged to marry Athrun, who was trying to make things work, whom she didn't turn down.
If you mean when she gave Kira the Freedom and stole the Eternal, what did you expect her to do, just let Zaft use them when the guy in charge was planning on using them to kill every Natural in existence. Her actions weren't because she was "craving Kira".
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Old 2012-09-13, 16:09   Link #4505
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Old 2012-09-13, 16:17   Link #4506
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Now she definitely isn't perfect in Seed,slightly more in Destiny.She didn't push her idealistic talk very hard until atleast toward's the end of seed.The first couple of episode's she comes off as a airhead,and after that her appearances are too (Far and inbetween) to conclude that she's so idealistic.Same thing in Destiny she dosen't get that way until the very last handful of episodes.So your reaching

And i can't even respond to the ''naive'' and ''childish'' part cause you need to elaborate,there's nothing for me to go off of.And honestly everything after lacus,just sounds personal.

Im not misinformed.(Cagalli fits your criteria) and at the same time still dosen't mean you like her.Well you like her better then lacus,which does not say much.

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Old 2012-09-13, 16:33   Link #4507
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Ah I see.. 'honest' might be one of the closest definition for her characters As she is kind-hearted, her honesty might lead up to that 'naive' personality on the first glance. There's still this bugging feeling that scares me though when I realized that her peaceful plan always works in the end

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If you mean when she gave Kira the Freedom and stole the Eternal, what did you expect her to do, just let Zaft use them when the guy in charge was planning on using them to kill every Natural in existence. Her actions weren't because she was "craving Kira".
Both ZAFT/EAF will kill every last coordinator/natural in their opposite factions anyway if one of them win the war. I think it's still a fact that even though their methods are questionable, Lacus and the others interference really did save many people.
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Old 2012-09-13, 16:41   Link #4508
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Ah I see.. 'honest' might be one of the closest definition for her characters As she is kind-hearted, her honesty might lead up to that 'naive' personality on the first glance. There's still this bugging feeling that scares me though when I realized that her peaceful plan always works in the end
She is, perhaps unintentionally, the most meticulously portrayed Yamato Nadeshiko character ever, fitting just about most stereotypes.

Its kind of scary...

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Old 2012-09-13, 22:15   Link #4509
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Seed Cagalli =/= Destiny Cagalli....
Destiny Cagalli is what SEED Cagalli would be if she was facing her own people other than her father. Other than that, they are the same person.
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Old 2012-09-13, 22:25   Link #4510
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Latest episode is out. Luna, Meyrin, and Rey make cameos. Another person looks like Shinn, but it can't be. He couldn't have arrived in the Plants already just after the Orb battle, and grown to his Destiny figure.......

Also a nice little flashback on Azrael's past. Basically, he wants to wipe out the Coordinator's because he was bullied by some and got slapped by his mom......
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Old 2012-09-13, 22:30   Link #4511
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Latest episode is out. Luna, Meyrin, and Rey make cameos. Another person looks like Shinn, but it can't be. He couldn't have arrived in the Plants already just after the Orb battle, and grown to his Destiny figure.......
How do they look? Do they look younger than in Destiny? Do they already in the ZAFT army in that cameo?
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Old 2012-09-13, 22:33   Link #4512
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How do they look? Do they look younger than in Destiny? Do they already in the ZAFT army in that cameo?
They are all in their Destiny figure, but wearing the academy uniforms. Even Rey who in Destiny we saw as a kid when Seed was going on......
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Old 2012-09-13, 22:39   Link #4513
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They are all in their Destiny figure, but wearing the academy uniforms. Even Rey who in Destiny we saw as a kid when Seed was going on......
That is weird.... Especially given the fact that Rey is a clone. As said by Rey himself, clones grew faster than normal humans. So, if Rey in the SEED cameo already look like his Destiny self, he will look like in his late 20s or early 30s in the (assumed) Destiny Remaster .
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Old 2012-09-13, 22:39   Link #4514
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They are all in their Destiny figure, but wearing the academy uniforms. Even Rey who in Destiny we saw as a kid when Seed was going on......
this means that they retconned the rapid aging of rey.

Spoiler for THE CAMEO:
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Old 2012-09-13, 22:43   Link #4515
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I have a feeling they will follow the HD trend with Destiny...

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Old 2012-09-13, 22:44   Link #4516
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this means that they retconned the rapid aging of rey.

Spoiler for THE CAMEO:
...What? How do they age that quick?

Also, it looks like ep 39 is up in the YT sub link
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this means that they retconned the rapid aging of rey.
If they did retcon Rey’s rapid growth, that means they also removed one of his main drives in siding with Durandal and executing Destiny Plan. Isn’t one of his reasons is that he doesn’t have much time (to live)?
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Old 2012-09-13, 23:08   Link #4518
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You people are overthinking this. They didn't retcon anything.

Anyway, did anyone see how Cagalli wanted Athrun to be there and how she had her hands on him? It's official, not only did Athrun got his fiancé taken, but he's also the rebound guy for the rejected girl.

On a more serious note, Mu is really a great character in SEED. (But I still don't agree with reviving him for Destiny. )
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Old 2012-09-13, 23:19   Link #4519
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Anyway, did anyone see how Cagalli wanted Athrun to be there and how she had her hands on him? It's official, not only did Athrun got his fiancé taken, but he's also the rebound guy for the rejected girl.
You know you'd want Athrun and Ssigh to team-up against the son of a -. just kidding.

but yeah, Athrun likes being punished.
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You people are overthinking this. They didn't retcon anything.
Well, to be fair, so far only aeriole has this idea of they retconning Rey's rapid growth .

Still, how can you explain Rey's looking like a child when Gil told him Rau's death and here, Rey already that grown up when Rau still lives? That's like they "discontinued" their own continuity with Destiny series.

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On a more serious note, Mu is really a great character in SEED. (But I still don't agree with reviving him for Destiny. )
Can't agree with you more . Still don't like Mu's Neo character.
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