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Old 2013-04-25, 18:04   Link #6721
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If they do make a movie, we know for a fact that at the very least Kira and Athrun will start off in mobile suits that aren't the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, because models.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:15   Link #6722
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... those don't look like DRAGOON units, and ZAFT deployed a beam-weapon on a shield before the Providence Gundam did. The GuIAZ had two beam claws on its shield.
Wrong on both accounts
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:17   Link #6723
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If they do make a movie, we know for a fact that at the very least Kira and Athrun will start off in mobile suits that aren't the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, because models.
Well that's true, but it's not going to be easy to figure out how to get them into nuclear powered mobile suits after that. Even though they don't have to, but i'm sure they'll want to because the S-Freedoms successor must be more powerful than the original. (shonen rule)
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:20   Link #6724
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Wrong on both accounts
For the DRAGOON units, perhaps. But for the beam claw on the shield for the GuAIZ?



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Old 2013-04-25, 18:21   Link #6725
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If they do make a movie, we know for a fact that at the very least Kira and Athrun will start off in mobile suits that aren't the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, because models.
So they will pull a Endless Waltz and 00 Movie where they won't bring out the Gundams until absolutely necessary? I don't see the logic besides the models argument. Kira and Athrun not using SF and IJ doesn't prevent anything. Gundams showing up in the CE universe doesn't cause war or unrest with the public.

With Endless Waltz, peace was achieved and Gundams were not needed anymore. The Leo was the only MS Heero and Duo could use with their Gundams hurling toward the sun.

With 00 movie, CB wanted to keep a low profile . So using the Flag makes sense. If Gundams were spotted, the world would be at unease with CB still doing interventions.

Kira and Athrun won't send SF and IJ into the sun or self-detonate them. They will be kept close for access for Kira and Athrun to use like Freedom was in Destiny.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:21   Link #6726
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Don't you think the S-Freedom, I-Justice and Destiny would be decommissioned after the second bloody valentine war? It's one thing to build a MS with NJC in secret for personal use as a covert organization, but maintaining 3 mobile suits with NJC technology as the chairwoman of ZAFT should be imposible. Lacus wil have to honor the treaty of junius seven after all, just because her predecessors more or less ignored it doesn't mean she can do the same.
Junius Seven treaty's out the window. Whatever they came up with afterwards is not the same, since in practice the treaty did nothing. They didn't just return to status quo with Lacus in charge. It's a whole new world. And they'd likely keep them all in service for the next major crisis that they are no doubt expecting (since Kira and Lacus knew that by taking out Durandal they'd be opening up to the door for more conflict. They were prepared to fight that. Kira said so himself.)

Besides they already used SF and IJ to escort Lacus to Plant to be sworn in as shown in the Final Plus. She's keeping them.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:24   Link #6727
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So they will pull a Endless Waltz and 00 Movie where they won't bring out the Gundams until absolutely necessary? I don't see the logic besides the models argument. Kira and Athrun not using SF and IJ doesn't prevent anything. Gundams showing up in the CE universe doesn't cause war or unrest with the public.

With Endless Waltz, peace was achieved and MS's( let alone Gundams) were not needed anymore. The Leo was the only MS Heero and Duo could use with their Gundams hurling toward the sun.

With 00 movie, CB wanted to keep a low profile . So using the Flag makes sense. If Gundams were spotted, the world would be at unease with CB still doing interventions.
I... wasn't using the Endless Waltz argument nor was I saying the Gundams would cause an outbreak of war... mainly just remarking that Kira and Athrun would be using different mobile suits (not necessarily non-Gundams at that) due to the whole model thing.

But if you want to keep putting words in my mouth...
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:30   Link #6728
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I... wasn't using the Endless Waltz argument nor was I saying the Gundams would cause an outbreak of war... mainly just remarking that Kira and Athrun would be using different mobile suits (not necessarily non-Gundams at that) due to the whole model thing.

But if you want to keep putting words in my mouth...
Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. Just trying to figure out storyline wise how to justify Kira and Athrun not using SF and IJ at first when conflict occurs again. An Endless Waltz and 00 situation isn't possible. That's all I was saying.

What would make Kira and Athrun choose not to use their Gundams? Episode 1 of Destiny situation where Athrun had no choice, but to pilot a Zaku. Kira and Athrun is somewhere, SF and IJ are not close by, and a conflict breaks out and they have to use grunt suits to fight back?
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:31   Link #6729
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It'll be either something like that or something damages/destroys them in battle and they have to upgrade. If they need a reason to put them in new mobile suits, they'll find one.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:33   Link #6730
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Yeah Gundam's aren't "bad" in CE. Just regular MS's. And unless they want them to pilot Zaku's or something there's no reason not to use them. And since nobody will care about Zaku's (much like how nobody really cared about Setsuna's GN Flag that he used for 2 minutes) that won't help models at all.

I think what they could do is redesign them EW style. That would let them have new models without trying to work in some crazy reason why they need new Gundams.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:36   Link #6731
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It'll be either something like that or something damages/destroys them in battle and they have to upgrade. If they need a reason to put them in new mobile suits, they'll find one.
No doubt something in the movie could wreck them. Just you mentioned that they wouldn't use SF and IJ at the start of the movie. That's all.

Overall, I just want it to be a good reason for them not to use it. Not do something because it's convenient for the plot. Don't do something that would change Kira's and Athrun's tendencies. They won't do an Endless Waltz or 00 movie situation. They won't purposely pilot an inferior MS by choice. It would be something out of necessity( Athrun in Zaku and Kira in Strike Rouge).
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:39   Link #6732
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What they end up with may not be considered "inferior", to be honest (hard as that is to believe when it comes to the Strike Freedom). As for destroying them in battle at the start? Well, they could always have something destroy them in a surprise attack before they could enter the machines and sortie. Hell, they could have someone steal them. Could be interesting to see Kira and Athrun having to fight off their personal mobile suits.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:45   Link #6733
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If they do make a movie, we know for a fact that at the very least Kira and Athrun will start off in mobile suits that aren't the Strike Freedom and Infinite Justice, because models.
Even more so if they're "custom" colored for just them.

I can even see them having Athrun using the next line in ORB's MS line with his star purple/red. That and I'm sure the Infinite Justice will be with Lacus anyway and not at ORB.

Dunno if they'll bother giving that treatment to Shinn or Lunamaria though.
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Old 2013-04-25, 18:51   Link #6734
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Even more so if they're "custom" colored for just them.

I can even see them having Athrun using the next line in ORB's MS line with his star purple/red. That and I'm sure the Infinite Justice will be with Lacus anyway and not at ORB.

Dunno if they'll bother giving that treatment to Shinn or Lunamaria though.
Impulse may be outdated by the time the movie happens( depends on the time skip). No reason why they wouldn't restore Destiny though.
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Old 2013-04-25, 19:05   Link #6735
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do we know how far in the future the movie is?
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Old 2013-04-25, 19:07   Link #6736
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do we know how far in the future the movie is?
Nope since the movie is on hold. We're just speculating.
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Old 2013-04-25, 19:10   Link #6737
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out curiosity, why are we even speculating? was there a recent rumor that the movie isn't dead or just because of the HD remaster is the only reason.
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Old 2013-04-25, 19:12   Link #6738
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out curiosity, why are we even speculating? was there a recent rumor that the movie isn't dead or just because of the HD remaster is the only reason.
I don't know. The topic came up so I discussed it.

I should have mentioned if the movie happens. Not when the movie happens....
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Old 2013-04-25, 19:20   Link #6739
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Impulse may be outdated by the time the movie happens( depends on the time skip). No reason why they wouldn't restore Destiny though.
Perhaps, but that doesn't stop ZAFT from developing an improved version of the Impulse. Or any of it's other MS currently in use like the Zaku or Gouf.
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Old 2013-04-25, 19:30   Link #6740
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Perhaps, but that doesn't stop ZAFT from developing an improved version of the Impulse. Or any of it's other MS currently in use like the Zaku or Gouf.
That may be the greatest thing about the Impulse. Just need to design a new chest and leg flyer along with its silhouettes that can combine with the core splendor. While the original Impulse components may be outdated, new components can be designed to make a new Gundam, but using the original Impulse core splendor. Sort of the concept ZAFT was originally going for with the Chaos, Abyss, and Gaia silhouettes.....
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